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With 5 Macs, Outlook will be just too expensive for me. It is ridiculous not putting a mail program in the home edition. If Entourage was more stable, I would be happy to stay with it but like many folks, I find on Intel machines, it crashes about once a day (...and yes I have done the fonts thing and rebuilt databases). Apple Mail is not really a business product. Thunderbird was not bad when it came out in 2003 but has not moved on. Any other suggestions for an Outlook alternative?

Wilson

It depends on what you are using "Outlook" for. Outlook IS NOT simply an email client, something that most of the posters here don't even seem to be aware of. It's a full blown information manager used in conjunction with corporate exchange servers. When mated with a corporate database I can find address/phone books, company SOPs, schedules, historical job data, OEM manuals, and policy information.

I'm sure there's other standards but with companies with exchange, Outlook is the way to go (Just as Notes works well with Domino servers)...
 
Crash

Maybe they should make the old one run correctly, first. Will the new one crash 3 or 4 times a day like the current one?
 
So am I wrong to feel slightly steamed? I bought Office for Mac 2008 not long after it was out - March 25th, 2009. So why is it that my version is not good enough to qualify for the upgrade pricing, but some ****** who decides to purchase it shortly before the release of Office for Mac 2011 get a break on it?

Well, the idea is you get to qualify for the upgrade pricing instead of the full $400 price. On the other hand someone who needs a new copy of Office, say someone whom is buying a computer between the official announcement and release date, will not wait for Office for 2011 to ship before making the purchase. Also, it helps them clear out inventory of 2008 boxes.
 
Eudora also has 'redirect' option, can let me have multiple windows open, hit cmd-delete to delete a message and many other cool features that Mail, Thunderbird and other mail clients don't let you do.

Mail has a redirect option. Not sure what you mean about having multiple windows open, but I can have multiple mail message windows open. cmd-delete also works.
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Alright your not even trying to have a conversation anymore...

The first sentence your quoting is obviously a tongue and check play against your calling anyone who likes anything other then your ideals a fanboy.

How on earth do you justify saying that different suites having different strengths is "childish, stupid, and uninformed?"


Yes Little Fanboy, I know. He said that "Office is OK is you only work with companies that are MS Fanboys"... That's a real intelligent statement, isn't it??

BTW, do you even know how stupid, and uninformed it is to advertise your breaking copyright law, civil contracts, and the DMCA in your signature? And if you don't know, then you really have serious problems.

Whaaa Whaaa Yes Little Fanboy - I'm breaking corporate Law!!! That means a lot coming from a nutcase who thinks that companies who use MS Office are "MS Fanboy Companies"... Get lost and go pray in front of you 11 x 17 glossy of Steve Jobs.

Come back when you grow up kid...
 
Microsoft exchange versions?

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knows which versions of outlook will be compatible with office 2011 for mac?

My company is a bit behind, so we're using microsoft office 2003. I know that, at least for mac's mail application, it only supports outlook 2008 and beyond.

Does anyone know if this new office 2011 version of outlook will support outlook 2003 exchange?

:apple:
 
I see a lot of people complaining about the exclusion of Outlook and Entourage in the Home and Student Edition of MS Office 2011. I guess I fit the target audience perfectly. I am a teacher who has been using Office at home and in the classroom for as long as I can recall, and never once have I used Outlook or Entourage. I have always preferred Apple Mail for its Mac OS integration. I would imagine that a vast majority of nonbusiness Mac users fit this same profile.
 
It depends on what you are using "Outlook" for. Outlook IS NOT simply an email client, something that most of the posters here don't even seem to be aware of. It's a full blown information manager used in conjunction with corporate exchange servers. When mated with a corporate database I can find address/phone books, company SOPs, schedules, historical job data, OEM manuals, and policy information.

I'm sure there's other standards but with companies with exchange, Outlook is the way to go (Just as Notes works well with Domino servers)...

+1


I'm not sure why people don't like Mail.app though. For personal use it's fine. For Business you can add plug-ins that do the things most people seem to be looking for.

A lot people like gmail also. It can be used with 3rd party mail accounts. Just log-in to your existing one and you can add other e-mail accounts and then send-receive from them.
 
+1


I'm not sure why people don't like Mail.app though. For personal use it's fine. For Business you can add plug-ins that do the things most people seem to be looking for.

A lot people like gmail also. It can be used with 3rd party mail accounts. Just log-in to your existing one and you can add other e-mail accounts and then send-receive from them.

I actually like the mail app, but I can't add my outlook to it since it is only outlook 2003, and the SL mail requires outlook 2008 or better.
 
It depends on what you are using "Outlook" for. Outlook IS NOT simply an email client, something that most of the posters here don't even seem to be aware of. It's a full blown information manager used in conjunction with corporate exchange servers. When mated with a corporate database I can find address/phone books, company SOPs, schedules, historical job data, OEM manuals, and policy information.

I'm sure there's other standards but with companies with exchange, Outlook is the way to go (Just as Notes works well with Domino servers)...

So the question is: is Outlook in Office 2011 equivalent in function to Outlook in Office 2010?
 
Outlook Express

The BIG question here is why didn't MS make a version of "OUTLOOK EXPRESS" for the Home version. Outlook is overkill for those not using an exchange server...
 
just to buy MS Office.

I found iWork to be impossible to use so I bit the bullet and purchased Win7 and installed Office 2010.

Now they are coming out with a product for the Mac? Cool.

Maybe one of these days Quicken will make a worthwhile accounting program for Mac.

Is this supposed to be funny? Office for Mac has been a product for at least 7 years now (I own 2003). Quicken likewise has an offering (albeit not perhaps something you would consider worthwhile).
 
When mated with a corporate database I can find address/phone books, company SOPs, schedules, historical job data, OEM manuals, and policy information.

Then why isn't your company providing this for you? My company buys me the tools to do my job. And I don't have a choice on what they are.

When I'm on message boards talking about software I might or might not buy it's for my personal use. Is "finding SOPs" part of your personal life? Or does your company make you buy your work computer and fend for yourself?

I'm just trying to figure out where a lot of these comments are coming from in terms of "I'll buy this because my job requires Outlook." Ok, then why haven't they given it to you already?

The BIG question here is why didn't MS make a version of "OUTLOOK EXPRESS" for the Home version. Outlook is overkill for those not using an exchange server...

I'm pretty sure that even Outlook Express for Windows is dead. Not sure...didn't I read that somewhere? I think it's not a thing anymore. Didn't they replace it with something else? If so, I can't imagine it coming to the Mac anytime soon.
 
Maybe they should make the old one run correctly, first. Will the new one crash 3 or 4 times a day like the current one?

Seeing as how this is MS, yes would be the answer to your question. Mac 2011 is the "fix" for Mac 2008. And, subsequently, Mac 20xx will be the "fix" for Mac 2011. Kinda like what they did with Vista/7. :D
 
Is this supposed to be funny? Office for Mac has been a product for at least 7 years now (I own 2003). Quicken likewise has an offering (albeit not perhaps something you would consider worthwhile).

Since 1984, actually.
 
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knows which versions of outlook will be compatible with office 2011 for mac?

My company is a bit behind, so we're using microsoft office 2003. I know that, at least for mac's mail application, it only supports outlook 2008 and beyond.

Does anyone know if this new office 2011 version of outlook will support outlook 2003 exchange?

:apple:

EWS only. Will only support 2007+
 
I'm sure this has been mentioned, but until OneNote is released for Mac, I think the Office suite for OSX is incomplete.

I really hope they get around to releasing it for Mac sometime in the future. Until then, it's Office 2010 in Windows 7 for this law student.
 
I'm sure this has been mentioned, but until OneNote is released for Mac, I think the Office suite for OSX is incomplete.

I really hope they get around to releasing it for Mac sometime in the future. Until then, it's Office 2010 in Windows 7 for this law student.

From what I heard its in development.
 
Then why isn't your company providing this for you? My company buys me the tools to do my job. And I don't have a choice on what they are.

When I'm on message boards talking about software I might or might not buy it's for my personal use. Is "finding SOPs" part of your personal life? Or does your company make you buy your work computer and fend for yourself?

I don't need outlook. I am self employed and use my own server to provide mail and access to whatever documents I need. I don't need an information manager at this point (with myself and 4 employees)

When I worked for another company, they indeed provided it for me.. Not sure what you're getting at here...


I'm pretty sure that even Outlook Express for Windows is dead. Not sure...didn't I read that somewhere? I think it's not a thing anymore. Didn't they replace it with something else? If so, I can't imagine it coming to the Mac anytime soon.

It is dead, .. My statement was meant to say that if MS was offering a Mail Client, "something like" Outlook Express was needed for home users and should be offered free (well, as part of the home package). Outlook is WAY WAY too much OVERKILL for the home user.. (or in my case, the small business user as well).. I use Outlook Express on my PC (with Win XP) and MAIL on my Macs.

I'm not sure why they no longer offer it for either platform.
 
When I worked for another company, they indeed provided it for me.. Not sure what you're getting at here...

It's not so much you as many other comments from people that are saying they're excited to buy Outlook because they don't like Mail.

I'm just trying to figure out what their situation is. I use Outlook at work and Mail and home and honestly can not think of a single thing I need that I can do on one that I can't do on the other.

So for me it's like, whatever. I'll use which one comes with the computer. I'm trying to figure out why some people really seem to care so much.
 
Or does your company make you buy your work computer and fend for yourself?
God, I wish. Then I'd have a Mac and wouldn't be silently screaming at it every day.

I'm pretty sure that even Outlook Express for Windows is dead. Not sure...didn't I read that somewhere? I think it's not a thing anymore. Didn't they replace it with something else? If so, I can't imagine it coming to the Mac anytime soon.
I thought it went away when the Web access version became robust. Wasn't that the replacement?
 
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