On the "Get a Mac" campaign? I can't find any sources, but by my estimates, it's a very large amount. Especially with the price of TV advertising these days.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Microsoft to Respond to Apple's 'Get a Mac' Ads
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
iWay or the highway. That's creative.
Can't wait to see these ads. Will they bash OS X? For its stability and security?
Likely indeed, remember no less a personage then BG said OSX was being hacked everyday.
Thank you. It's funny to me that it actually prompted some people to send me emails accusing me of secretly being a Microsoft shill.
Apple Responds
I wonder if Apple has something waiting in the wings just for when MS finally woke up? I doubt they will need 2 years to respond in kind.
I wonder if Apple has something waiting in the wings just for when MS finally woke up? I doubt they will need 2 years to respond in kind.
Similarly, a Yugo is a good car that will get you where you're going. So is a Mercedes. So is a Ferrari. So is a 1957 Edsel.
Your inability to distinguish between immensely different products doesn't mean the whole world is so inept.
For me (and I've been using Vista since beta days, and Vista 64 on my main work desktop and Vista 32 on my laptop since the RTM (the "business" release)), there's one Vista feature that's the "killer app" that makes me really miss Vista when I have to use XP.
That's the fact that the "search" paradigm is built into many parts of the OS.
For example, Windows Explorer (for Apple users who are illiterate on Windows, that's the "finder") has a "search" window in the top right. Start typing part of a filename into the window, and all of the files that contain what you've typed appear in the main window.
By the time you've typed 3 or 4 characters, the file you want is probably visible - if not, type a few more characters or move the main window down closer to the root. (The search domain is the current directory and all subdirectories, so do a click or two to move the base directory for wider or narrower searches.)
First I think Vista is pretty decent, I run it via Bootcamp and VMWare. I'm by no means anti Vista, though I do prefer Leopard and run it most of the time.
Second Time Machine is for Backup and as far as I understand it Shadow Copy is for version control. If you are doing version control you'll still want backups, if you are doing backups you might still want version control. Leopard ships with subversion pre-installed.
Third there is no double standard over Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard looks set to make far more ambitious architectural changes over Leopard than Vista did over XP. We will only know the truth once Apple delivers, but Grand Central and OpenCL could potentially offer very big leaps forward for performance. It's not a fan boy thing, people outside the Apple world are very interested to see what Apple delivers in these areas. Parallelism is a huge challenge.
I bought my copy of OS X 10.5.. I installed it on my "beigebox". Therefore, I didn't pirate the software, but I'm breaking the EULA to use it.
Not much more to it than that.
Windows not so bad...
I actually found that both Vista and Leopard were annoying at launch. I purchased my first notebook computer shortly after Vista came out, and within 2 or 3 weeks I had installed XP. That notebook got stolen 4 months in, and I replaced it with an MBP - right at the time Leopard came out so my Santa Rosa MBP came with Tiger installed, but with a free Leopard disc. I actually went back to Tiger for awhile (until 5.3) due to annoyances with Leopard - mostly the sleep / wake-to-black-screen issue, but other loose ends as well. Oddly enough, at about the time the commercial saying that a Mac was better because it was all designed to work together, I was finding that the best PC for XP was my Mac and the MBP actually was running WinXP better than Leopard. Weird. It seems to me that both Vista and Leopard were released too early, and are just now becoming stable enough for the masses. I do find Vista to be still a bit large and cumbersome... but for DX10 games it is the only option. Is DX10 that big a deal? Depends on who you talk to... For me right now I am finally happy with Leopard (5.3), and my non-mac computer right now is actually running Ubuntu - though just for www and email, nothing more. The MBP still has XP on it as well... and I will probably always be a Windows user to some degree... too much of a PC enthusiast in the gaming world, and I like building my own PC.
I actually found that both Vista and Leopard were annoying at launch. I purchased my first notebook computer shortly after Vista came out, and within 2 or 3 weeks I had installed XP. That notebook got stolen 4 months in, and I replaced it with an MBP - right at the time Leopard came out so my Santa Rosa MBP came with Tiger installed, but with a free Leopard disc. I actually went back to Tiger for awhile (until 5.3) due to annoyances with Leopard - mostly the sleep / wake-to-black-screen issue, but other loose ends as well. Oddly enough, at about the time the commercial saying that a Mac was better because it was all designed to work together, I was finding that the best PC for XP was my Mac and the MBP actually was running WinXP better than Leopard. Weird. It seems to me that both Vista and Leopard were released too early, and are just now becoming stable enough for the masses. I do find Vista to be still a bit large and cumbersome... but for DX10 games it is the only option. Is DX10 that big a deal? Depends on who you talk to... For me right now I am finally happy with Leopard (5.3), and my non-mac computer right now is actually running Ubuntu - though just for www and email, nothing more. The MBP still has XP on it as well... and I will probably always be a Windows user to some degree... too much of a PC enthusiast in the gaming world, and I like building my own PC.
ROTFLMAO. That's nearly 1/3 as good as the search built into OS X. I guess Vista is catching up.
You're comparing an operating system to a car. But yes, I would agree that a car is a car. Luxury is built on top of the car.
They're all reference chips from the same manufacturers.. A Radeon in a Mac is the same as a Radeon in a generic PC. Different ROM, same parts. The northbridge/southbridge are both from Intel. Same parts you'd find in a generic PC of equal spec and they're all assembled/made in China. Heck, IIRC, ASUStek was building Macbooks.
... Don't try and argue this, it's a losing battle.
Thank you for explaining what makes Spotlight so much better than Instant Search. If anything, they are largely the same.
Also, Apple copied Microsoft's Instant Search technology and took it to market first. And to be fair, Microsoft also copied many features from Apple.
Please explain how OSX search is 3 times better than the search integrated across Vista apps, before you completely lose your A.
You'll be very hard pressed not to find HDMI on a laptop this day and age.
I'm a little surprised that most users expect some magical hardware inside their Mac. It's all the same OEM parts like everyone else.
Maybe we can all learn something from these two about getting along.
Attachments
I disagree somewhat. I do agree that Snow Leopard will be a very significant change (and the marketing of it will certainly be interesting), but I still think that it's making large internal changes to the same degree that Vista made internal changes to XP. Since Microsoft has relatively poor marketing compared to Apple, it was harder in many ways to sell Vista, as it was more of what I consider a "soft" upgrade. Made major changes to the guts of the OS, but the UI was largely the same, only looked different. I feel the same will occur with Snow Leopard. Just like with Vista, there may be a UI change solely for the sake of change to market it as "new."
Really? You don't know much about the current state of motherboards then.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1749&modelmenu=1
That's just one of many examples.
A tough row to hoe, MS!
Best of luck to them on that. The real anti-Vista clamor hasn't been from Apple, or any competitor; it's been from plain, regular users. Home users, students, enterprise, everyone.
First you've got Bill Gates blasting Vista:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp
Then everyone else in the world:
http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007..._people_are_really_saying_about_windows_vista
Blaming Apple is really just looking to divert attention to a minor foe. The real foe is the fact that once people try Vista, they don't like it.
MS's best bet is to throw everything into Windows 7 and hope it comes out better this time.
Best of luck to them on that. The real anti-Vista clamor hasn't been from Apple, or any competitor; it's been from plain, regular users. Home users, students, enterprise, everyone.
First you've got Bill Gates blasting Vista:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp
Then everyone else in the world:
http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007..._people_are_really_saying_about_windows_vista
Blaming Apple is really just looking to divert attention to a minor foe. The real foe is the fact that once people try Vista, they don't like it.
MS's best bet is to throw everything into Windows 7 and hope it comes out better this time.
I'd love to know this as well. After using both OS for quite a while (unlike a lot of people here), I've found that both Instant Search and Spotlight are almost identical. Even the behaviors are basically the same. In both OS, using the "main" search field (in the Start menu and menu bar) search the entire computer, while searching in a window's search field will by default only search that specific folder or directory unless changed.
I have a Core Duo (not a Core 2 Duo) MacBook and it's a great machine. Feels like a PowerPC Mac to me and well built. Two years old and still runs great.
I still don't understand this assumption about why if a Mac is built in some factory in China where PC machines are made too then it's crap or low-quality?
So, a few people who have a few hundred things to say about Vista suddenly represents the entire world population (estimated at 6.6 billion), or even the entire Windows install base? I don't think so.
As for the Bill Gates e-mail, I won't even go into that. I see that as more of a general complaint about Windows usability in general, and not any one specific OS. After all, the way the UI in Vista works was created roughly 13 years ago, with the release of Windows 95. By saying the usability sucks, I don't see it as saying "this specfic version sucks because it does x and y," but rather more of a statement saying that it's time for a new desktop metaphor, which I agree with. One that doesn't involve the use of a keyboard and mouse.
Also, I've tried Vista and I really like it. So much that I can't stand to use XP any more. Since I'm a person just like you are, I've officially disproven your statement that "The real foe is the fact that once people try Vista, they don't like it."
You're apparently incapable of getting the point, too. The hardware is very similar (not quite the same because of EFI vs BIOS, but similar). But the OS is very different. The OS is what determines usability - and the difference between Mac OS X and Vista is huge.