Microsoft Unveils New 'Edge' Browser to Replace Internet Explorer

mikefla said:
Oh Lord get ready for this. So when you can't fix your crap you just give your crap a new name. Yeah ok....

-Mike
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mikefla said:
They are simply trying to stay relevant and in the game...They have no choice but to give it away since they produce mostly crap these days anyway. This is what you get when you outsource everything....

-Mike
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Two comments from a guy who obviously knows little about the tech space these days.
 
Renzatic said:
Not really. The one thing that hurt MS the most was the iPhone and the halo effect surrounding it. But even that only put the barest dent into their desktop/laptop OS dominance, which is still sitting at ~85% in the US, and higher elsewhere in the world.

If there's one place MS is really suffering right now, it's their mobile lineup. The Surface RT died an ignoble death, and Windows Phone is just hanging in there. But that doesn't have anything to do with Vista.
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babyj said:
Nothing wrong with Windows 7 and the main UI issues in Windows 8 have been fixed in Windows 8.1. We're deploying 8.1 at work and users have no problems with it, most prefer it.

The Windows maintenance issue is blown out of proportion, I doubt OS X actually has less patches issue than Windows does. Microsoft tend to release a separate patch for each issue, whilst Apple tend to roll them up. Plus a lot of the Microsoft updates are for other products, rather than for Windows itself.

Not sure who you think are feeling uneasy about Microsoft, unless you're referring to senior management at Apple? Microsoft are on a roll, the new products and advancement they're putting out across the whole of their business is impressive to say the least.
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The use of Windows is a concession. Windows 7 is a concession. It's not that great.

Windows 2000 was the first version I ever liked. Earlier NT was OK, except for the UI. All the earlier desktop versions of Windows were (architecturally) utter garbage. This was well understood with Windows 1 and 2; with 3.0 it got hyped to the hilt, but it was still no good. It had some apps and sorta worked right - that was all. Plus it was easy to purchase and install, before you realized you actually needed a hardware upgrade to make it run (somewhat) OK.


XP was fine, and Windows 8 is good. That's it.

People and corporations would flock to an alternative if the costs and apps were the same. Despite the high usage rate, few people actually "love" Windows.

Microsoft themselves are uneasy, as are any users who care and are paying attention.
 
JustThinkin' said:
Microsoft themselves are uneasy, as are any users who care and are paying attention.
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Considering the fervor surrounding Windows 10, and the fact there are currently 1.5 million people who willingly signed up to beta testing their unreleased software, I don't think MS has much to worry about overall.

Yeah, their mobile phones aren't seeing much love, but they're the second most profitable company in the world behind Apple, and continually see an ever increasing rise in revenue and profits. They all but own the desktop scene, their cloud services are seeing a huge uptake in adoption, and their hardware is slowly starting to catch on in a big way. They're far from being in danger of irrelevance.
 
I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love if Apple incorporated something similar to the "snap" feature that Microsoft introduced in (I think) Windows 7. I've had so many occasions where snap would have come in serious handy.

As far as I'm concerned, the more Microsoft innovates, the better for Apple, especially if Apple is gonna continue to release a new OS every year.
 
eTronic said:
I'm actually impressed with the direction Microsoft has been going in lately. Edge looks really nice. I'll reserve judgement until I've had a chance to use it/develop websites on it. Windows 10 is seeming like a great overhaul in general. :)
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Its web design acceptability hinges on whether they require developers to use special tags like old versions of Explorer did. I remember those bad old days of using browser detection and workarounds. :mad:
 
What's new here?

I've been an annotating and sharing web pages using the Evernote plugin for Chrome for years, so what is new here......nothing.
 
Renzatic said:
Considering the fervor surrounding Windows 10, and the fact there are currently 1.5 million people who willingly signed up to beta testing their unreleased software, I don't think MS has much to worry about overall.

Yeah, their mobile phones aren't seeing much love, but they're the second most profitable company in the world behind Apple, and continually see an ever increasing rise in revenue and profits. They all but own the desktop scene, their cloud services are seeing a huge uptake in adoption, and their hardware is slowly starting to catch on in a big way. They're far from being in danger of irrelevance.
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They have no future - how could they not be worried? Desktops are slowly dying, and notebooks are uncertain.

They have nothing else. It's a fight every year just to find new ways to get people to continue to pay for Office. They only have Office and x86 Windows as big revenue streams, but they have nothing successful to replace them or grow a new market. Without corporate entrenchment they'd be nothing. "Me too" cloud services just don't cut it.
 
JustThinkin' said:
They have no future - how could they not be worried? Desktops are slowly dying, and notebooks are uncertain.

They have nothing else. It's a fight every year just to find new ways to get people to continue to pay for Office. They only have Office and x86 Windows as big revenue streams, but they have nothing successful to replace them or grow a new market. Without corporate entrenchment they'd be nothing. "Me too" cloud services just don't cut it.
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Yes, I'm so glad that Pages and Numbers now dominate the workaday world. And the iCloud experience is making enterprise IT departments junk their Windows servers enmasse. :rolleyes:

I went to see my doctor last week for an annual physical. She now carries a Surface tablet instead of the iPad I saw last year. The entire medical office has dropped the iPad because it wasted time. Says she likes the Surface because it actually allows her to work compared to the silly dance she had to play all day switching between data entry on the iPad and her laptop.
 
RogerWilco said:
I went to see my doctor last week for an annual physical. She now carries a Surface tablet instead of the iPad I saw last year.
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And those MS tablets will only be more prolific with the introduction of the much smaller (and cheaper) Surface 3.

Similar experience at my company when I worked there. Every January, just after Christmas dozens of folks would show up at staff meetings and the office with new shiny iPads. By March they were all dragging out their Lenovo's again.

I'm not an Apple basher. I just like to see a good old competitive fight every now and then.
 
RogerWilco said:
Yes, I'm so glad that Pages and Numbers now dominate the workaday world. And the iCloud experience is making enterprise IT departments junk their Windows servers enmasse. :rolleyes:
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That's ridiculous - you know the hardware's not in place in the corporate world, so Pages and Numbers can't be an alternative there. So why has Office commercial revenue gone down 16% over the last year? I'm sure this isn't a new trend. Customers either don't upgrade, or they move to an alternative.


I'm saying that Microsoft's position is no better than the American car companies, post-1972. If people have a viable alternative, they will start moving toward it. Surviving is not the same as thriving.
 
Michael Goff said:
Aside from around 15-20% of desktop users. But 15% of 1.5 billion is only.... 225,000,000 people. I'm sure that almost ten Australia's is nothing to somebody. And that's going by low end estimates. Some sites have it as high as over 50% of desktop users.
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What do they mean by "use"? Like, I mainly use Safari and sometimes Chrome but I've used Internet Explorer once or twice, do I count?
 
I liked this Edge browser, liked the iOS app "integration", so went to read about Surface 3 and I start to really like Microsoft more and more. Surface idea of notebook and tablet mix is the future of tablets. I see how people may adopt it over years. But if Apple tries to merge OS X and iOS into a single system they will fail, it'll be a huge mess. What they need is something like a new MacBook with detachable keyboard and an OS X capable of touch input.
 
bmunge said:
Learn to use the keyboard and hotkeys. It's much more effective. Also there are some nice applications that help with window management. Check out Window Tidy.
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Moom is excellent and on the MAS.

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Marx55 said:
Mac version?
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Why would they?

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ThunderSkunk said:
A new name still isn't going to make anyone want to use it.
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The big question for me is: does it use IE's rendering engine?

Is it just IE with a new coat of paint, or an entirely new piece of software? If it follows with the rest of Windows 10, it should be awesome.
 
Developers: what should we call this new browser?

Management: we don't care as long as it starts with the letter E. We don't want to change the logo/icon.
 
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