Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
They have no future - how could they not be worried? Desktops are slowly dying, and notebooks are uncertain.

They have nothing else. It's a fight every year just to find new ways to get people to continue to pay for Office. They only have Office and x86 Windows as big revenue streams, but they have nothing successful to replace them or grow a new market. Without corporate entrenchment they'd be nothing. "Me too" cloud services just don't cut it.

They aren't dying, though that market has shrunk, since people who never needed the full on power power of a desktop or laptop have moved on to tablets.

Until the day comes that a tablet can support people working with Photoshop, designing webpages, editing movies, mixing music, rendering 3D, playing high end games, or administering a network as well as a desktop or good laptop, you'll always have them around. The casual consumer sector, big as it is, isn't the end all be all of the market.

MS is positioning itself to cater to just that audience. They don't have anything to worry about.
 
What they need is something like a new MacBook with detachable keyboard and an OS X capable of touch input.
If they try this then Apple will have to go through the same growing pains involved like Microsoft did with Win8.

I really think MS is on to something with Win10. One day I'd like to be down to a single device (a phone) that can serve all my needs. Apple on the other hand will want you to own an arsenal of gizmos each one doing things slightly different.
 
The big question for me is: does it use IE's rendering engine?

Is it just IE with a new coat of paint, or an entirely new piece of software? If it follows with the rest of Windows 10, it should be awesome.

It uses a forked version of Trident, so it's not entirely new. But it's different enough that it's no longer compatible with old IE. Hence why it's still lurking around in the background for the time being.

I've used it, and you can tell just by looking at how it renders webpages that it's not exactly the same. Font rendering is a helluva lot better, for one.
 
I just got it with a Windows 10 update and shall try it out. I really need add-ons so my use can only go so far.
 
You just know they paid big bucks to some consultant who focus group tested names and came up with"Edge"! Brilliant! Original! Wow! /sarc

Edge has been the name of the most-recent-rendering-engine that ships with each version of IE. You can use a meta-tag to tell IE to use the "edge" engine, so you don't have to worry about IE compatibility. It's a really nice feature for web developers, and I'm not surprised they chose this name for the browser that only contains the IE "edge" rendering engine.
 
It uses a forked version of Trident, so it's not entirely new. But it's different enough that it's no longer compatible with old IE. Hence why it's still lurking around in the background for the time being.

I've used it, and you can tell just by looking at how it renders webpages that it's not exactly the same. Font rendering is a helluva lot better, for one.

Does it have three prongs?
 
The UI looks great... I hope Apple isn't done tweaking the flat UI. Photos editing makes safari seems dull.
 
If they try this then Apple will have to go through the same growing pains involved like Microsoft did with Win8.

I really think MS is on to something with Win10. One day I'd like to be down to a single device (a phone) that can serve all my needs. Apple on the other hand will want you to own an arsenal of gizmos each one doing things slightly different.

Yeah, their Continuous feature is fantastic. It's a future, very close future. That's the definition of innovation, not some animated emojis.
 
I'm liking everything Microsoft is doing lately. They really are pushing forward on all fronts, from home entertainment all the way to augmented reality. With a little more work to their mobile division, I think we might even see a resurgence of Microsoft.
 
If it as good as the new Word, Excel, Outlook, and especially, One Note, Apple is in trouble. Safari has lots of issues. I don't know what changed in Redmond, but I can no longer bash Microsoft, which was a favorite pastime of mine over the last decade.
 
Might as well ask Apple why the give away Safari. Considering its integration with other MS products, it acts as a draw to their platform, rather than a singular product in its own right.

Though if MS wants to drive Edge straight into the ground as quickly as possible, the best way to do it would be to charge for it. Opera was the last of the big browsers to go free. It's also the one major reason why it's now dead last in usage, too.

Not the same, since Apple makes its profit off of selling Hardware. Safari is just a program that makes Apple software run better. McSft does not make any significant money off of hardware.

Of course McSft can't charge for Edge. But it is unclear how it can make money making Edge run better that other browsers.
 
Edge has been the name of the most-recent-rendering-engine that ships with each version of IE. You can use a meta-tag to tell IE to use the "edge" engine, so you don't have to worry about IE compatibility. It's a really nice feature for web developers, and I'm not surprised they chose this name for the browser that only contains the IE "edge" rendering engine.

You know why I think they called it Edge? Because they wanted a name that still allowed them to use the now iconic Big Blue E.

----------

Not the same, since Apple makes its profit off of selling Hardware. Safari is just a program that makes Apple software run better. McSft does not make any significant money off of hardware.

Of course McSft can't charge for Edge. But it is unclear how it can make money making Edge run better that other browsers.

Because, like I said, it makes them look good, acts as a draw to the platform, and ties in with their other software. It makes money for MS by being good at what it does, and making Windows look that much more attractive to potential buyers.
 
They are simply trying to stay relevant and in the game...They have no choice but to give it away since they produce mostly crap these days anyway. This is what you get when you outsource everything....

-Mike

I agree with you. I'm unclear where they make their money or why the stock market thinks they are making money in the future. It seems pretty clear to me that we are moving from the PC world to the iOS world. There is really no young Windows programers. Everyone young programs for iOS. I really don't see any need for Enterprise to upgrade their computers ever unless they are switching to OS because their workers use OS at home and iOS for their mobile.
 
You know why I think they called it Edge? Because they wanted a name that still allowed them to use the now iconic Big Blue E.

----------



Because, like I said, it makes them look good, acts as a draw to the platform, and ties in with their other software. It makes money for MS by being good at what it does, and making Windows look that much more attractive to potential buyers.

Potential buyers of what? Buyers of Windows 10? Sure, Enterprise will buy it to a certain extent. I'm on my second kind of mediocre Windows laptop in two years. But how long can they keep that up when everyone in the high levels of Enterprise uses Mac at home?
 
I'm liking everything Microsoft is doing lately. They really are pushing forward on all fronts, from home entertainment all the way to augmented reality. With a little more work to their mobile division, I think we might even see a resurgence of Microsoft.

Seriously? They are dropping huge cash to keep Xbox One up with the stronger Playstation. And Apple is going to undercut both consoles this summer with an Apple TV that plays game that are good enough.

Augmented reality is never coming to market. It is phantom wear.

I also like some of what they are doing. But I think they've made their move way too late. And they lost control of their hardware far too long ago. They are a software company who isn't as good at software as Google and they don't control their hardware as well as Apple.
 
No, it has 5. Don't know why they're calling it Trident. It's not gum, either.

I think they're trying to be ironic or something.

Well, if it doesn't have three prongs it's not a Trident, and it's not gum, and I'm guessing it's not a submarine either, so it's just a silly name.
 
Potential buyers of what? Buyers of Windows 10? Sure, Enterprise will buy it to a certain extent. I'm on my second kind of mediocre Windows laptop in two years. But how long can they keep that up when everyone in the high levels of Enterprise uses Mac at home?

There's a number of people who use Macs at homes, but they're hardly a vast majority at the moment. Competition is pretty fierce these days though, and MS probably want to keep the current status quo, so...yeah, they're gonna make a good browser.

Also, keep in mind that Cortana is integrated directly into Edge, which leverages Bing pretty heavily. They can make money off that.

----------

Well, if it doesn't have three prongs it's not a Trident, and it's not gum, and I'm guessing it's not a submarine either, so it's just a silly name.

It might be because Fivedent doesn't roll off the tongue as well as Trident. Guess they should've thought about that before adding those two extra prongs.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.