Silly. 360 and PS3 can't even do 1080p natively. Basically all games run at 720 and are just upscaled to 1080. And 3D? I don't see it.
Let's see them do the level of Crysis 3 at 1080p with 60 FPS.
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Silly. 360 and PS3 can't even do 1080p natively. Basically all games run at 720 and are just upscaled to 1080. And 3D? I don't see it.
Let's see them do the level of Crysis 3 at 1080p with 60 FPS.
When was the last time you bought and used PlayStation Plus? It really is a league ahead of Microsoft's service. At least in Europe it is, where Xbox Live has no added benefit except for being able to go online.I have a PS3 and the 360 and the online service on the PS3 is not even close to Xbox live, not even in the same league. The voice chat quality is terrible and the matchmaking leaves alot to be desired. Yes it is disappointing that the Xbox One has not matched the PS4 in power specs, but we will have to wait and see how the games actually look and perform before making any real comments on this. More power does not always equal a better experience
Also, while you can generally not come to the conclusion that games will look or perform better on one device, than another, it is a valid comparison in this case. Why? Because the architecture is almost identical. There are two main differences:
- Xbox One has same type of GPU as PS4, PS4 just has a 'bigger engine' (so to say)
- PS4 has unified DDR5 RAM which makes it really easy to develop for, while Xbox One must throw data over between 8 GB DDR3 and 32 MB of the so-called ESRAM.
It is highly likely that any game developed for the Xbox One will run just as smooth, but probably even smoother on the PS4. Games developed specifically for the PS4 need to be 'watered-down' to run just as smooth on an Xbox One.
Of course, the technical specifications are not final yet until we actually see both devices in-store, but right now Sony has two advantages over Microsoft:
- Architecture the same, but way more power for PS4
- Easier to develop for due to faster RAM + RAM allocation
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I see you live in California and I'm actually quite surprised you 'realized' that the Xbox One - for now - doesn't really seem that great for 'the rest of the world'. I totally agree you.
For me, as a European, I was utterly disappointed to see that the event was so much focused on the 'American lifestyle'. Sure, it is an American company and sure it isn't necessarily bad if things are implemented 'the American way', but this thing is supposed to launch worldwide.
It is likely that the TV functionality (at least at launch) won't work for like 90% of the Europeans and lots of their 'online services' are likely to not work here too.
I'm not too worried about the 'ease of use' of the Xbox One: Microsoft is a software company and they know what looks good and how users interact. I was also quite impressed with the new Kinect, but more because of the technology behind it. I actually do believe that in a few years from now, we will actually be 'swiping' to the next channel, to the next app, to the next game when using our televisions.
When was the last time you bought and used PlayStation Plus? It really is a league ahead of Microsoft's service. At least in Europe it is, where Xbox Live has no added benefit except for being able to go online.
Also, while you can generally not come to the conclusion that games will look or perform better on one device, than another, it is a valid comparison in this case. Why? Because the architecture is almost identical. There are two main differences:
- Xbox One has same type of GPU as PS4, PS4 just has a 'bigger engine' (so to say)
- PS4 has unified DDR5 RAM which makes it really easy to develop for, while Xbox One must throw data over between 8 GB DDR3 and 32 MB of the so-called ESRAM.
It is highly likely that any game developed for the Xbox One will run just as smooth, but probably even smoother on the PS4. Games developed specifically for the PS4 need to be 'watered-down' to run just as smooth on an Xbox One.
Of course, the technical specifications are not final yet until we actually see both devices in-store, but right now Sony has two advantages over Microsoft:
- Architecture the same, but way more power for PS4
- Easier to develop for due to faster RAM + RAM allocation
I bought psn plus last year and well i have to say i only used my PS 2 months after black ops 2 launch and this year ive played maybe 5-7 days
On xbox live i actually never had problems with the online experience, dont remember any lag and voice chat is perfect aswell party chats and that too me is worth the 50-60 bucks a yea along with the IMO superior controller and exclusives games
In the end people will vote with the wallet, and exclusive tittles plays a major role in gamers on a budget (not all can afford every console or just choose not to), myself im going with the xbox one first and after a year il see if it the ps4 is worth it.
I bought psn plus last year and well i have to say i only used my PS 2 months after black ops 2 launch and this year ive played maybe 5-7 days
That's possible, but you didn't come up with any arguments that change my mind that PS+ is superior to Xbox Live's subscription service.
Nope, me neither. We must not forget, though, that Xbox Live was hacked too and people actually lost money (unlike the PSN hack, where nobody lost money). Microsoft just concealed it better.
I agree with you that people vote with their wallets and I also agree on the part about exclusive titles.dont remember any lag and voice chat is perfect aswell party chats and that too me is worth the 50-60 bucks a yea along with the IMO superior controller and exclusives games
In the end people will vote with the wallet, and exclusive tittles plays a major role in gamers on a budget (not all can afford every console or just choose not to), myself im going with the xbox one first and after a year il see if it the ps4 is worth it.
In fact, that's why I'll probably go for a PlayStation 4. Just look at PlayStation 3 and 2013: big, exclusive titles are still coming out this year.
Microsoft barely released any great exclusive games in the last two or so years.
In conclusion, I suppose I just prefer Sony's approach. What Sony basically says is: "PlayStation 4 is a gaming console that does some multimedia, too."
What Microsoft basically says, is: "Xbox One is going all-in on multimedia, and oh, it also does some gaming."
They can, but rarely ever do. Like Dark Souls, for instance, has the internal renderer running at 1024x720 and has the UI and fonts overlaid on top of it at 1080p. About 99% of all console games do this. The PS3 and 360 don't have the power to render complex scenes at 1920x1080 without killing the framerate.