Remote desktop apps give you access to software that you've already purchased elsewhere. They're not selling you anything other than the app that provides access. That's the difference.
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While we’re are stopping others of their rights can we also require all digital content be made available for resale?
That’s absurd.
Apple’s argument is that each app being streamed has to be its own separate thing. They have to be able to review it.
So how can they allow me to use Jump Desktop and stream literally any app in existence without them being able to individually review them?
Like I said, it’s absurd. There’s literally no difference.
Interesting to read about negotiations going behind the scenes at Apple.
I bought a Lenovo Legion on Black Friday with an RTX 3080 for about $1900 + tax. The screen is excellent, the battery life is weirdly good, and the keyboard is leagues better than my 2018 MBP’s.
At the end of the day it was easier to move my workflow to Windows than to justify the cost of a Mac + a gaming machine.
The Windows machine can handle both work and play. The Mac can’t. That’s a choice Apple has made, and seems inclined to keep making.
You're ignoring the distinction between the apps being streamed.
Remote desktop apps only stream software that has already been purchased/installed on a desktop or laptop computer. In other words, they're not offering you a library of software with their remote desktop app. They're just offering you the remote desktop app itself. Everything else has to be supplied BY YOU OUTSIDE OF THE APP STORE.
Microsoft, on the other hand, was specifically offering a library of applications to the user for streaming. That's what required each application to be reviewed by the App Store.
And that’s why Apple TV devices are sold out everywhere and Xboxes and Playstations are practically being given away because nobody wants them. Nobody can get enough of the Apple Arcade games.
I don’t really understand Apple’s stance here, just from a fiduciary standpoint.
I get that they’re terrified of these streaming services because they would provide Apple with actual competition on iOS, something they cannot and will not tolerate. If you’re streaming XBox games you’re not playing App Store games, after all, and the App Store is essentially a free money machine for Apple.
But why on earth would they think there’d be much overlap between the rubes getting bilked out of their money on Candy Crush and the rest of the pay-to-win crud on the App Store and people who like to play actual games?
Being so petty and greedy is a bad look for the richest and most powerful company in the world. A very bad look.
The above is of course, your interpretation.
Not the way the rules are written. Videos aren't executed streams? Are they? I'm not saying I agree with Apple here, but it's their house their rules.
Did they say that? I must have missed it.
Is the stream an app using apple IP?
No business in their right mind treats all customers equally. All customers should be treated fairly, but giving the "exact same" treatment to every customer of a consumer oriented mass distribution company will not happen.
Don't know where this is going, is the music stream directly executable, or will it change via inputs?
OK. Maybe that supposition is correct, maybe it isn't.
Ok.
You mean like this?
Use the Remote Desktop client to connect to Azure Virtual Desktop - Remote Desktop client
Learn how to connect to Azure Virtual Desktop using the Remote Desktop client.
docs.microsoft.com
That’s an entire desktop in the cloud that you can rent from Microsoft and stream to your iOS devices. You don’t own it. You don’t own the apps running on it, you’re simply paying a fee to access it.
Apple has no problem with you doing so from iOS.
So, again, how is that in any way different from renting access to cloud games from Microsoft and streaming them?
It’s not different. It’s exactly the same thing, except only one of those things puts Apple’s App Store profits at risk.
No and no. Its an urban myth:
„Microsoft's $150 stock investment was the result of a settlement of a lawsuit. In fact, the investment was just an initial payment for other "substantial balancing payments" that would be spread out over then next few years, then Apple CFO Fred Anderson said at the time.“ Source: https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/08/06/august-6-1997----the-day-apple-and-microsoft-made-peace
„The day before the announcement Apple had a market cap of $2.46 billion,[149] and had ended its previous quarter with quarterly revenues of US$1.7 billion and cash reserves of US$1.2 billion,[150] making the US$150 million amount of the investment largely symbolic. Apple CFO Fred Anderson stated that Apple would use the additional funds to invest in its core markets of education and creative content.“
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc.#Microsoft_deal
Not sure where you get the idea that Apple can't tolerate game streaming on iOS. They're perfectly fine with companies doing streaming services through the internet/browser.
I kind of meant that Neflix and M$ appear to have similar requirements for a platform but Netflix don’t have to submit everything separately.
Would that not be a case of “rules for thee but not for me”?
Don’t be silly.
Netflix is streaming remote content to your device.
The Microsoft gaming app, on the other hand, is, um … also streaming remote content to your device.
But it’s totally different! Somehow! I mean, one is streaming, but the other is, you know, streaming …
Azure is an enterprise solution and is not selling a library of applications through the App Store. It's just a remote client app.You mean like this?
Use the Remote Desktop client to connect to Azure Virtual Desktop - Remote Desktop client
Learn how to connect to Azure Virtual Desktop using the Remote Desktop client.docs.microsoft.com
That’s an entire desktop in the cloud that you can rent from Microsoft and stream to your iOS devices. You don’t own it. You don’t own the apps running on it, you’re simply paying a fee to access it.
Kind of like how Netflix and all the rest offer me a menu of streaming content to choose from, and yet Apple doesn’t need to review every video I might watch.
But games are interactive, I’ve heard others argue.
How about Bandersnatch on Netflix? It’s interactive. It’s basically a game. Shouldn’t the same rules that keep the Microsoft app off the store keep Netflix from being able to offer choose-your-own-adventure content?
It’s all so arbitrary and silly.
Azure is rented software streamed through an app.
XBox game pass is rented software streamed through and app.
One is banned. The other is not. That’s absurd.
Movies and music are media files. The App Store doesn't require individual media files to be submitted for review. It requires individual applications to be submitted for review. So if you want to offer a library of streamed applications for sale in the App Store, you need to submit them for review. If you don't want to submit them for review, sell/stream them through the internet/browser.
It really isn't very complicated.
What’s the difference? Nothing is running on the iOS device except a viewer app in any case.
A game streaming across the internet is just media being displayed to a remote viewing application, just like movie or song.
Some of Netflix’s content is interactive. Let me know when Apple bans it for the sake of logical consistency.