I want a phone that can call a guy named "Scotty" who can then instantly transport me around the world.
Sadly, the MS answer is to be able to call a guy named "Frank" in India who can tell you how to reinstall the os...
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I want a phone that can call a guy named "Scotty" who can then instantly transport me around the world.
Sadly, the MS answer is to be able to call a guy named "Frank" in India who can tell you how to reinstall the os...
Can't agree with you more.
Some people on here can't see the woods for the trees - they are such Apple fanatics - and dislike a negative thing said about Apple - with responses such as "why are you even on these forums".
Some people on here can't see the woods for the trees - they are such Apple fanatics - and dislike a negative thing said about Apple - with responses such as "why are you even on these forums".
meh
can't microsoft come up with anything new???
blatant half hearted ripoff of the iPhone is in progress....
aussie_geek
can't microsoft come up with anything new???
blatant half hearted ripoff of the iPhone is in progress....
aussie_geek
i was wondering when apple decided to adopt major code from BSD and Konqueror for their OSX and Safari, did these same ppl ask "why copy other ppl"? lol, ironic, totally.
Double standards for you I'm afraid.
Apple copy ideas all the time - like just anyone else. Its OK for Apple, but not for others - thats what you are really saying - correct?
Apple copy ideas all the time - like just anyone else. Its OK for Apple, but not for others - thats what you are really saying - correct?
can't microsoft come up with anything new???
blatant half hearted ripoff of the iPhone is in progress....
aussie_geek
People fail to realise you DO get a similar feature set to the iPhone with functionality on top of for the same price as iPhone.
You may not get the *identical* feature set, with some features lacking and some extras that the iPhone doesn't have.
People seem to have the impression that the iPhone contains these feateures that no phone has seen before on one device!! The software on the iPhone is nothing special, its the UI - nothing more. In fact, the iPhone lacks a lot of features that phones have had for some time now.
You mean the 360
True on both counts - the 12 month 3rd gen 360 lead. You must consider the PS2 has been out for signficiantly longer than the 360. We must wait longer for a true picture of the 3rd Generation sales figures. Its too early for a clear indication.
Ha, yeah that 260 was a typo, but I kind of like it
And personally, I like the phones from SE, Nokia and Samsung... Nokia when it comes to smartphones. That is the real competition, not some weak future first-gen offering from MS. If MS really is contemplating a zune phone, I hope they gave it some serious thought and don't come out with something half-assed like the zune. The other cell phone makers aren't going to roll over without a brutal fight.
And windows mobile/ce is winning because of Palm screwups. Oh and that Palm is a tiny company that can be outspent. Apple, Nokia and Samsung can throw billions at a problem...
Windows mobile isn't winning - they are #2, far, far behind Symbian.
Definitely, SE, Nokia and similar phones - they are the competition. MS could pull a surprise with the Zune cell phone and make a gem of a device - but I doubt it - going by past history - i.e., The zune player itself - like you said.
Definitely, SE, Nokia and similar phones - they are the competition. MS could pull a surprise with the Zune cell phone and make a gem of a device - but I doubt it - going by past history - i.e., The zune player itself - like you said.
Ha, yeah that 260 was a typo, but I kind of like it
And personally, I like the phones from SE, Nokia and Samsung... Nokia when it comes to smartphones. That is the real competition, not some weak future first-gen offering from MS. If MS really is contemplating a zune phone, I hope they gave it some serious thought and don't come out with something half-assed like the zune. The other cell phone makers aren't going to roll over without a brutal fight.
And windows mobile/ce is winning because of Palm screwups. Oh and that Palm is a tiny company that can be outspent. Apple, Nokia and Samsung can throw billions at a problem...
Ditto...I don't see what the big deal is. Competition is good, even if it's from Microsoft....
It will work great, but you can only call people within 5 feet of you, and you can only do it three times before the person is deleted from your phone's directory...
Well in that case, you deserve to live in a cave. They did something NEW. If no-one ever did that, then you wouldn't have the computer that you're typing those lovely posts on.
Umm.. Why does it matter if it doesn't have java apps when you can't make you're own (yet) anyway?Stella said:
Fridge, microwave... All these severe flaws that should be there..Stella said:
Oh, like 2 megapixel - which is fine for 6x4, therefore will look great on the screen size. Oh and IT'S A PHONE. Well the video recording isn't there, but meh phone videos look (and sound) crap anyway. It might come later.Stella said:
At $12/month, limited to 5 minutes a day. No thanks.Stella said:
It has bluetooth and a dock connecter. It can (and will) easily happen.Stella said:
AM radio, torch, pocket knife. You really make it sound like you want a much thicker, heavier iPhone.Stella said:
You don't have one, how would you know what the battery is like? Also, you CAN replace it. The same way you replace one in an iPod. It's not that hard...Stella said:
Oh you've used one have you? You can always put it down on a table and use one hand.. With all the features you want it to have you'd need 2 hands (and possible a forklift) to carry it anyway...Stella said:
You didn't read my post correctly - I think I said, in other words " i hope the Wii does well because its innovative and deserves success" - so I don't know why you think I should live in a cave?
Your missing my point.
There is a wealth of 3rd party java apps out there - that can be used on cell phones.. unfortunately because of iPhone closed platform and no Java support - you can't use these.
That is my point.
Yea, just dismiss all features that aren't in the iPhone, easy that, isn't it? Then harp on about features that are in the iPhone that other phones may not have. Pick and choose your double standards.
If you think phone videos look crap then you haven't used the right ones - because they can be very good quality.
2megapixels are 'good' enough for point and click - there are better quality cameras about too. Apple should keep up - phones have 4 and 5 mega pixel quality cameras, with flash. Re: at the iPhone price point.
Yawn, a dock device to display video on a TV, and sound - another thing you have to carry around. I'd rather have it integrated into the device, personally.
Yawn, "but you can replace iPod and iPhone batteries - its easy" they say. Well, its not as easy as a regular phone - ie., pop off the lid and replace IS IT!!!
If you attempt to replace the iPod 5th Gen battery you run the risk of scratching the device. Its not user replacable. Apple did not intend the battery in the iPod ( or iPhone ) to be user replacable, they wanted you to send in the device or at an Apple authorised dealer etc.
You don't get my point - I don't want to have to use two hands for a phone, or "put it down on a table". I want to use the phone in one hand - just like a regular phone. I've used two handed phones and for me, personally, its awkward. I get the impression that its a 'two handed' phone from the demos and initial feedback. I hope I'm wrong.
Why would you need two hands for all the features I've listed?!!!
Answer: you don't.
Cell phones are evolving, they are no longer about just making phone calls. People should realise this... of course, they forget this when talking about the iPhone.
I'll say it again - the software in the iPhone is unspeculator, its the UI that makes a difference.
Well in that case, you deserve to live in a cave. They did something NEW. If no-one ever did that, then you wouldn't have the computer that you're typing those lovely posts on.
Your missing my point.
There is a wealth of 3rd party java apps out there - that can be used on cell phones.. unfortunately because of iPhone closed platform and no Java support - you can't use these.
That is my point.
Yea, just dismiss all features that aren't in the iPhone, easy that, isn't it? Then harp on about features that are in the iPhone that other phones may not have. Pick and choose your double standards.
If you think phone videos look crap then you haven't used the right ones - because they can be very good quality.
2megapixels are 'good' enough for point and click - there are better quality cameras about too. Apple should keep up - phones have 4 and 5 mega pixel quality cameras, with flash. Re: at the iPhone price point.
Yawn, a dock device to display video on a TV, and sound - another thing you have to carry around. I'd rather have it integrated into the device, personally.
Yawn, "but you can replace iPod and iPhone batteries - its easy" they say. Well, its not as easy as a regular phone - ie., pop off the lid and replace IS IT!!!
If you attempt to replace the iPod 5th Gen battery you run the risk of scratching the device. Its not user replacable. Apple did not intend the battery in the iPod ( or iPhone ) to be user replacable, they wanted you to send in the device or at an Apple authorised dealer etc.
You don't get my point - I don't want to have to use two hands for a phone, or "put it down on a table". I want to use the phone in one hand - just like a regular phone. I've used two handed phones and for me, personally, its awkward. I get the impression that its a 'two handed' phone from the demos and initial feedback. I hope I'm wrong.
Why would you need two hands for all the features I've listed?!!!
Answer: you don't.
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Cell phones are evolving, they are no longer about just making phone calls. People should realise this... of course, they forget this when talking about the iPhone.
I'll say it again - the software in the iPhone is unspeculator, its the UI that makes a difference.
Zune phone = Redmond FUD.
C'mon, what's the point. This is a normal MS "leak", meant to spread classic fear, uncertainty and doubt among the masses. meh.
aside from that, met my first Zune user yesterday at the Oakland airport. Sat next to her in the bar for an hour and the Zune never found a friend.
I asked, she works for Microsoft licensing.
C'mon, what's the point. This is a normal MS "leak", meant to spread classic fear, uncertainty and doubt among the masses. meh.
aside from that, met my first Zune user yesterday at the Oakland airport. Sat next to her in the bar for an hour and the Zune never found a friend.
I asked, she works for Microsoft licensing.
C'mon, what's the point. This is a normal MS "leak", meant to spread classic fear, uncertainty and doubt among the masses. meh.
aside from that, met my first Zune user yesterday at the Oakland airport. Sat next to her in the bar for an hour and the Zune never found a friend.
I asked, she works for Microsoft licensing.
how ironic!!
meet apple licensing ppl back in 1998.
Um. A device with the ability to transmit/receive radio waves (Wi-Fi) certainly DOES have to get approval from the FCC. In fact, lots of the early Zune rumor info (including the fact the Zune was based on a Toshiba GigaBeat) came from Microsoft's FCC filings.
What a great gift for lovers
They must be trying to regain momentum lost from the Zune launch before Christmas 2006. Wow, to think I could be listening to DRM media on my phone by Valentine's Day 2007! That's only two weeks off!
They must be trying to regain momentum lost from the Zune launch before Christmas 2006. Wow, to think I could be listening to DRM media on my phone by Valentine's Day 2007! That's only two weeks off!
As does any digital device. All digital devices must pass EMI (electro-magnetic interference) testing. This isn't as complicated as intentional radiators, and I'm not sure that they get published by the FCC in the same way, but it still takes time.
Hmm, well, there's a FLOP you can see months in advance. It would actually be a brilliant move to avoid association with the Zune thing as much as possible.... Well, all things considered they're probably stupid enough to release another one in poop color.
Unfortunately, what you say here is pretty major. I do hold out some hope though, because having lots of carriers is one thing and getting a flop to sell is another. However, Apple should try harder to widen their niche a bit. Waiting for people to come to you is fine, but it's best to meet them halfway. Still, despite the fact that yes, the iPhone has much the same, even superior capacity as the Nano in music, I doubt you'll see a massive shift from iPod user to iPhone user. Well, it'll be massive but not the whole picture.
Unfortunately, what you say here is pretty major. I do hold out some hope though, because having lots of carriers is one thing and getting a flop to sell is another. However, Apple should try harder to widen their niche a bit. Waiting for people to come to you is fine, but it's best to meet them halfway. Still, despite the fact that yes, the iPhone has much the same, even superior capacity as the Nano in music, I doubt you'll see a massive shift from iPod user to iPhone user. Well, it'll be massive but not the whole picture.
