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Machine Learning Models (aka AI) combined with a browser are a new frontier for business. Like the original WWW ( which many saw as a passing fad) no one can predict what will happen next. If this tech can make humans more productive, it might turn out to be the most positive development in 200 years. Apple had Bill Atkinson’s HyperCard in 1985, but they were too insular to see its potential outside local networks — a $1T mistake.
You still have not given me one reason Apple will lose market share because of Microsoft's early adoption of this applied AI software. I can use Safari to go to ChatGPT and ask it questions. Any API that is created to leverage ChatGPT will work on Windows, MacOS and Linux.

Apple is not competing in this area as of yet. Microsoft was not either until it spent 20 billion to buy in.
 
You still have not given me one reason Apple will lose market share because of Microsoft's early adoption of this applied AI software. I can use Safari to go to ChatGPT and ask it questions. Any API that is created to leverage ChatGPT will work on Windows, MacOS and Linux.

Apple is not competing in this area as of yet. Microsoft was not either until it spent 20 billion to buy in.
Apple had one of the first legitimate consumer PCs, the Apple II, and the Mac was a huge leap forward in usability. With all those advantages, Apple still lost marketshare to the Wintel coalition because Apple refused to compete for business users. The trick here is to get users to pay for their chatbot sessions. Apple isn’t even in the game.
 
It's a fun toy at the moment and I'm really enjoying playing around with it.

It occasionally produces useful / beautiful / stunning images, but it's mostly bonkers.

I'm assuming that MS is launching this as:
  • No one uses Bing, so what have they got to lose?
  • Bing Image Creator DALL-E can obviously benefit from huge amounts of training data, so this is a good way to do this.
Funny, bizarre now - shockingly good in 2-3 years, I expect.
 
In this age of people being worried about new advances in AI and its potential misuse, I'm glad Siri is still comfortably stuck in 2011. :cool:

If you're worried about AIs putting people out of jobs or being used to spread misinformation, boy does Apple have the AI assistant for you:

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Maybe all the people displaced by AI could be employed by Apple to pretend to be 'Siri' (but a Siri that actually understands you and does stuff properly), as Apple seem to be utterly unable to make a digital personal assistant that works properly.
 


Microsoft today announced that its AI-enhanced Bing browser now includes Bing Image Creator, image-generating technology powered by OpenAI's DALL-E deep learning model.

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DALL-E is designed to generate digital content through natural language descriptions, and it has been a popular image generation tool for some time now. Microsoft says that the Bing Image Creator will bring AI-powered visual stories and updated Knowledge Cards to both Bing and the Microsoft Edge preview that has the same AI capabilities.

Bing Image Creator is integrated into the Bing chat experience, launching in creative mode to begin with. Typing in a description for an image, adding context like location or activity, and providing an art style will allow the Image Creator to generate a unique image.

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Microsoft says that it is working with OpenAI to curb potential misuse of the image creator, and that it has implemented safeguards and additional protections to limit the generation of harmful or unsafe images.

Using the Bing Image Creator requires access to the Bing preview or the new Microsoft Edge experience. Not all Bing preview users will have access to the Image Creator right away, as Microsoft says it will be deployed with a phased approach. It will be available on both desktop and the Bing mobile apps for those who have been given access.

Article Link: Microsoft's AI-Powered Bing Experience Gains Image Creation Functionality
Meanwhile Siri can barely call a contact half the time.
 
Siri is not the same kind of tech and nobody is claiming it to be. Also, explain to me again why Apple suddenly needs to be in the search business?
 
Siri is not the same kind of tech and nobody is claiming it to be. Also, explain to me again why Apple suddenly needs to be in the search business?
If you say these AI products are solely about web search, I disagree. It’s about making powerful technology easy to use and meaningful for non tech consumers. And making it cool. I’d say that is a simple but decent summary of Apple’s success formula, combined with the operations and logistics to deliver at scale with premium but still accessible price points. AI assistants are going to be used by most people for every day tasks at some point, and I do not mean decades from now.

Siri has been around for what, 10 years now? It does very little and even within the small scope it operates in it is unreliable. I may be wrong, but I just do not see anything in Apple software and services the last several years that gives me confidence they are going to dominate this next wave. And I seriously doubt the Apple consumer ecosystem holds up with others owning the AI assistant space.
 
How is Apple going to lose market share? Are people going to stop buying iPhones, iPads or Mac’s because Bing uses a “Ok” barely 1st Gen AI???

Are people going to run out and buy Windows PC’s and Android phones???

People are losing their minds over this stuff. It is really, really early days.

Maybe not their hardware and OS. But software used for productivity will. Apple Mail, Numbers etc will.

Not loosing my mind at all.
Apples method of only presenting new software updates once a year will make them look bad when others can release updates at will.
Then it will be HomePod all over again. Great but too late.
 
I have a few artistically challenged friends, and by artistically challenged I mean they have ZERO artistic talent, who really like AI generated art. I guess it has its place for people who cant create.

I however, will never support it.
I may not be your friend but I doubt yours is as challenged as I am. I mean my stick men look like they’ve been hit by ⚡️ lightning !!
 
People have been saything that about every invention since the dawn of time. What it will do is boost productivity. We are just begining to see what AI can do. It will take a lot of jobs, but it will also probably generate jobs when people use it in way we have not even thought of yet.
Maybe… not sure the line workers who have been replaced by robots those last decades will agree, but anyway. It's one thing to replace a painful or repetitive physical interaction, it's another to replace a thought or an intellectual process. And God knows our children already lack this capability, it will get even worse over time with this kind of tools. I'm not so far from retirement, so I mostly care for my children.
 
Siri is not the same kind of tech and nobody is claiming it to be. Also, explain to me again why Apple suddenly needs to be in the search business?

Siri should be in the business of understanding requests and respond appropriately in a useful manner.
Some degree of AI is required to achieve that and Apple must do better.
 

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Maybe not their hardware and OS. But software used for productivity will. Apple Mail, Numbers etc will.

Not loosing my mind at all.
Apples method of only presenting new software updates once a year will make them look bad when others can release updates at will.
Then it will be HomePod all over again. Great but too late.
Some of you are making some really strange jumps and spinning narratives that aren’t super logical in my opinion, the above being just the newest one I’ve read. We don’t need to go through this exercise every time anyone but Apple comes out with a new technology.

First of all, Apple also releases updates at will. Sometimes at a pace that’s almost a tad annoying. I get over the air updates on all my devices all the time. It’s not like they say here’s iOS 15 and then go dark for a year.

Second, you’re worried about Apple’s productivity software market share? I bet Apple isn’t. They give it away free for the most part, and it fills in just fine for most users. Office is still the gold standard though and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Apple will tell you the same thing—they promote Office in their own marketing materials all the time. This has been the case forever.

Third, Apple, much like humans who want to keep up in the work force, will need to adapt and exploit this tech to their advantage. Their track record tells me they will. Nothing is guaranteed, but the sky is certainly not falling. I’ve been using ChatGPT on my iPhone, Apple Watch, Mac, and iPad for a few weeks now and they haven’t been bricked.
 
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Is it?

You stated “Siri is not the same kind of tech and nobody is claiming it to be”.
I am claiming that it should be.
Maybe it should be, maybe it should be ditched for something else that Apple is (likely) already working on. That’s for Apple to decide.
 
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