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Microsoft's Chromium Edge Browser for Mac Officially Launches

Edge uses less memory than Firefox does and that was a real surprise, Brave was slow on my Mac for some reason; Edge is faster than either. I'm surprised that OneDrive is working better than iCloud Drive has and that OneNote actually syncs. (Evernote wants $95.88/year for its Premium version!! (the only useable one) and OneNote is free)

For the longest time, Microsoft forgot how to sync files reliably and quickly; that's one of the reasons I switched away from Microsoft, in general. FWIW, I've seen iCloud Drive stall on uploads and never finish. YMMV, as always. I always consider my customers' habits, wants and needs when deciding what to recommend, and it's no different for anyone else.

EDIT: Oh, and Safari has totally killed the OneNote Clipper, which was a dealbreaker for me.
 
BobHyatt said:
Who in their RIGHT mind would ever install a Micro$oft product on their Apple product? Crashes. Hacking vulnerabilities. You name it. To quote Linus Torvalds many years ago, windows is NOT the answer. Windows is the question. NO is the answer. I would not give it a femtosecond of thought.
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Somehow this post feels like it was made at least 20 years ago.
 
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macguru212 said:
This requires the use of a pkg installer rather than an easier dmg for simply dragging into the application folder. I suspect MS needs to install custom fonts and other BS, but I won't touch this with a ten foot pole.
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It doesn't. It installs the browser and Microsoft Autoupdate and nothing else.
 
Maybe to cut down on MS tracking use someone could provide a list of domains / ips they could block in hosts file or firewall or little snitch.
 
The only reason this exists is for Macs in a corporate environment under Microsoft's device/application management.

For businesses that want to grant access to internal company sites via ONLY a locked down browser. Same reason Edge for iOS exists. The business can prevent printing/copying/etc. for various documents accessed via their sharepoint site via Edge (blocking other browsers entirely).

That's the only reason to run it. Otherwise just run any of the other Chromium based browsers.
 
seangrimes590 said:
Looks like it's straight out of 2006. Still using Mutt for email?
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Mutt works faster than Apple Mail, is more stable, and doesnt randomly delete emails either, unlike Apple Mail

and the latest stable release of MUTT was YESTERDAY, making it far more current than that monstrosity put out by Apple
 
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I tried it. I really like being able to use my OneDrive account to sync everything. I've used Brave on Windows up until now and think I'll be switching to this on my work/personal windows machines. I tried it on Mac OS and it worked well - but without 1Blocker ... I'd have to find an Adblock service for it.

I like OneDrive and use it for my primary cloud service so I'm very biased to Microsoft.

What killed it on Mac OS for me was not getting the automatic prompts to put in my 2 factor pins sent to my cellphone. :p Yep, back to safari for me on Mac OS. Loving it on Windows!
 
I've been using the new Edge for a few days now, and I must say it's now my new favorite browser. As someone who has Brave, Vivaldi, Firefox, Chrome, and of course Safari, I've yet to find a browser that doesn't annoy me in some way. I have a 2017 MBP i5 w/ 8 gigs ram. Safari to me has gotten worse since I first got my MBP. First of all I hate the ad blockers for Safari in Catalina. Also, It seems a little more resource hungry than it use to, and I have some site compatibility issues and bugginess. I have to clear my cache/history often for optimal performance. Firefox is just waaaay to resource hungry for me. Heats my MBP up too much. Chrome is resource hungry as well and I have privacy concerns. I like Brave but it has some site compatibility issues also. Mainly profootballtalk which I visit often. I really like Vivaldi and it previously held the crown for my favorite browser on Mac. My only issues with Vivaldi is speed inconsistency, and the lack of a mobile app. Edge for me has solved everything. I've yet to find a site that has compatibility issues. It has awesome privacy features. I can install all of my favorite extensions from Chrome, mainly uBlock Origin and Video Downloader Professional. It's the fastest browser on this list for me other than maybe Brave; the speed in page rendering really shocks me every time I use it. Edge is surprisingly light on resources on my Mac. It's hit on my battery is less than all the other browsers but Brave. And finally, I like the Edge Mobile Browser as well on my iPad and iPhone, something I can't say for Chrome, Firefox, and Brave. I'm not the biggest Microsoft fan, but I think they nailed it with this browser.
 
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Does anyone know how to let new Edge send kerberos tickets to the identity endpoint?

In Firefox we do this. But what would be the analogue in Edge?
In about:config

network.negotiate-auth.allow-non-fqdn;true
network.negotiate-auth.delegation-uris;.ourcompany.com
network.negotiate-auth.trusted-uris;.ourcompany.com
network.automatic-ntlm-auth.allow-non-fqdn;true
network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris;.ourcompany.com
security.enterprise_roots.enabled;true
 
Research* on Browsers "phone home" impact:

New academic research published last month looked at the phone-home features of six of today's most popular browsers and found that the Brave browser sent the smallest amount of data about its users back to the browser maker's servers.

The research, conducted by Douglas J. Leith, a professor at Trinity College at the University of Dublin, looked at Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Apple Safari, Brave, Microsoft Edge (the new Chromium-based version), and the Yandex Browser.
Prof. Leith used a series of automated tests to measure and collect the network communications that a browser initiates to its backend infrastructure. These network communications are also known as telemetry or phoning-home.[...]
"In summary, based on our measurements we find that the browsers split into three distinct groups from this privacy perspective," Prof. Leith said.

"In the first (most private) group lies Brave, in the second Chrome, Firefox, and Safari, and in the third (least private) group lie Edge and Yandex."[...]

But the most intrusive phoning-home features were found in the new version of Microsoft Edge and the official Yandex Browser.

According to Prof. Leith, both used unique identifiers that were linked to the device's hardware, rather than the browser installation.

Tracking users by hardware allows Microsoft and Yandex to follow users across installations and potentially link browser installs with other apps and online identities.[...]
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https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-browser-in-terms-of-phoning-home/

Research Paper:
[...]From a privacy perspective Microsoft Edge and Yandex are much more worrisome than the other browsers studied. Both send identifiers that are linked to the device hardware and so persist across fresh browser installs and can also be used to link different apps running on the same device. Edge sends the hardware UUID of the device to Microsoft, a strong and enduring identifier than cannot be easily changed or deleted. Similarly, Yandex transmits a hash of the hardware serial number and MAC address to back end servers. As far as we can tell this behaviour cannot be disabled by users. In addition to the search autocomplete functionality that shares details of web pages visited, both transmit web page information to servers that appear unrelated to search autocomplete.[...]
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https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf


*The testing was performed on fresh, default installs. Safari, Chrome and Firefox shortcomings can be mostly, easily mitigated.
 
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Just downloaded Edge as I thought it might help when I have to manage PC users in Office Admin. It just crashes. Microsoft never cease to amaze me.
 
ct2k7 said:
Works for me.
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I have installed on my Mac mini and it works fine but I naturally always go back to Opera.
I hear Vivaldi 3.0 is where it’s at these days. You’ll need to activate the anti tracking and anti ad separately as they’re off by default but this is now the most privacy focused Chromium based browser.
 
ph001bi said:
I have installed on my Mac mini and it works fine but I naturally always go back to Opera.
I hear Vivaldi 3.0 is where it’s at these days. You’ll need to activate the anti tracking and anti ad separately as they’re off by default but this is now the most privacy focused Chromium based browser.
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I use AdGuard and Pihole at home, with a VPN to connect to if I’m out of home. That seems to be a better blocker than the browser-based ones, but I also mostly use Safari instead of other browsers, with Edge a close second
 
Tim Lord said:
Just downloaded Edge as I thought it might help when I have to manage PC users in Office Admin. It just crashes. Microsoft never cease to amaze me.
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That’s something specific to your machine. Chromium Edge is rock solid on both Mac and PC.
 
mxrider88 said:
microsoft is doing much better than Apple on software lately.
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The new Edge is good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves with the Microsoft praise. Now the world is working from home and we've all discovered that Skype and Teams are built on the backbone of the Xbox Live network and it's coming crashing down several times a day.

MS has some amazing new bits of kit - Edge, Visual Studio Code. But it also has some atrocious monsters that have been bad for decades and need restarted from scratch.
 
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