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With such a new logo, people will be mistaken thinking they're just installing a new version of Firefox...

Microsoft makes the best macOS software.
Say that again?
Have you tried Office for Mac?
I bought every version since 2012, on a few Macs, and couldn't be more disappointed by the performance. Office on my slower laptop with Windows 10 at work is at least 5X snappier.
 
With such a new logo, people will be mistaken thinking they're just installing a new version of Firefox...


Say that again?
Have you tried Office for Mac?
I bought every version since 2012, on a few Macs, and couldn't be more disappointed by the performance. Office on my slower laptop with Windows 10 at work is at least 5X snappier.

I'm finding it not too bad, but OneDrive is so bad I couldn't use it. I've had to move to Google Drive for cloud backup.

Visual Studio Code, however, is an amazing bit of kit.
 
You can very easily set the default web browser in Mac OS X. It’s right there in System Prefs. Do you even use a Mac?
As I said in my post that you quoted:
The ONLY reason why 3rd party browsers miss out on iOS integration is because Apple won’t let you change the default browser.
i said iOS. I know you can do this on a Mac.
 
Everyone is going to jump on this and say it's terrible because it's Microsoft and because Edge (and IE) are terrible. But this is actually good - really good. It's all the benefits of Chrome, but without the Google having your data worries.

If you want to go further down the 'Chrome but privacy' route, then Brave browser takes it a step further. That's Chromium but with a big privacy focus. I've been using it recently (coupled with DuckDuckGo) and it's really good.

When I moved to macOS from Windows about 3 months ago, Safari was my biggest disappointment. Edge and Brave are really good replacements.

You just get to have Microsoft instead of google mining your data. Brave browser is better if you have privacy concerns, like you said.

Safari is one of the reasons I like macOS. Sure it doesn’t have all the extensions Chrome has but the better UI and the efficient memory usage more than makes up for it personally. Chrome feels like a browser from the early 2010s tacked on with modern features. It’s starting to feel like IE is the old days rather than the fast and light browser it was years ago.
 
Who in their RIGHT mind would ever install a Micro$oft product on their Apple product? Crashes. Hacking vulnerabilities. You name it. To quote Linus Torvalds many years ago, windows is NOT the answer. Windows is the question. NO is the answer. I would not give it a femtosecond of thought.
What about MS Excel, Word, Outlook, PP etc?
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I believe that as a consumer I have a duty to vote for what I think is important by the things that I choose to use/purchase. So I won't be using this browser unless MS somehow shows that they care about privacy as much as, or more than, Mozilla and Apple do.



I never understand why people keep bringing up this quote. Steve's point was that you shouldn't need a stylus for a phone. He was right. Having one for a tablet, for all we know, made perfect sense to him and was something he envisioned down the line as the accuracy of iPad touchscreens improved down the line.
The original Apple Newton had a stylus.
 
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You just get to have Microsoft instead of google mining your data. Brave browser is better if you have privacy concerns, like you said.

Safari is one of the reasons I like macOS. Sure it doesn’t have all the extensions Chrome has but the better UI and the efficient memory usage more than makes up for it personally. Chrome feels like a browser from the early 2010s tacked on with modern features. It’s starting to feel like IE is the old days rather than the fast and light browser it was years ago.

Edge is better for workplace browsers for people using Office products. Or someone who uses them at home I guess, but Office workers for sure.
 
Who in their RIGHT mind would ever install a Micro$oft product on their Apple product? Crashes. Hacking vulnerabilities. You name it. To quote Linus Torvalds many years ago, windows is NOT the answer. Windows is the question. NO is the answer. I would not give it a femtosecond of thought.
I’ve used used MS Office for years on my Mac and it’s fine. All operating systems have a strong point and weak point. But for Apple fanboys, Apple is perfect :rolleyes:
 
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I also would like to say that, in my experience, this 1.0 release is super stable, on all platforms I had worked with (Mac OS, Windows 10, iOS).
Nobody is talking about stability and it's a good sign!
We are getting used to get garbage released as 1.0 and to have serious bugs even after years of bug fixing (cough cough...Files, Mail, iCloud, Catalyst, the whole Catalina).
This is fresh air.
Ironically, somebody, many years ago, used the expression a ''glass of water to someone in hell''.
 
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This requires the use of a pkg installer rather than an easier dmg for simply dragging into the application folder. I suspect MS needs to install custom fonts and other BS, but I won't touch this with a ten foot pole.
 
Microsoft have raised my eyebrows for the first time in twenty years with the Surface Neo preview. I might try Edge.

 
Who in their RIGHT mind would ever install a Micro$oft product on their Apple product?
You know... "The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do."



Or simply someone who does not live in the 90s anymore :D.
 
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Microsoft is now unapologetically google.

Lmao no
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Who in their RIGHT mind would ever install a Micro$oft product on their Apple product? Crashes. Hacking vulnerabilities. You name it. To quote Linus Torvalds many years ago, windows is NOT the answer. Windows is the question. NO is the answer. I would not give it a femtosecond of thought.


Anyone who does serious MS Office work. A majority of Macs I see have Microsoft's office suite. Please don't say Pages or Numbers can compare in the enterprise world lol

But yeah people install Microsoft products on their Mac. Nbd.
 
Who in their RIGHT mind would ever install a Micro$oft product on their Apple product? Crashes. Hacking vulnerabilities. You name it. To quote Linus Torvalds many years ago, windows is NOT the answer. Windows is the question. NO is the answer. I would not give it a femtosecond of thought.

Ah. You like Linus Torvalds quotes? Here is another one from him that he said to a friend of his when he used his friend's Mac: "Your Mac sucks."
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Not bashing Microsoft here but why someone would use this instead of something like Brave is beyond me at this point. I'll likely try it but I won't be moving from Brave and Firefox any time soon.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that using a browser from a company that finances itself through an advertisement-based feature called "Brave Rewards" will solve all the privacy problems on the Internet.
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Microsoft has been firing on all cylinders lately (if you told me I’d be typing that 15 years ago I would’ve laughed in your face).

Microsoft has always been firing on all cylinders. They're just not interested in the consumer market (except for their Xbox business), that's why you haven't noticed them. Azure, anyone? The cloud is where they've spent most of their time over the last DECADE. It was big news when Apple announced that they would invest a billion dollar in a (read: one!) new data center. Microsoft invests a billion dollar in Azure infrastructure per year -- and that money does not include annual research or development costs, it's just infrastructure growth.
 
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Brave is currently my favorite browser, but I’m very much liking this mainstream Microsoft Edge browser quite a bit. Edge is officially at least as good as every other browser.

Mostly, It is great for Windows users. Finally, they can use a native (Microsoft) browser on their machines without feeling the compromises!
 
It is fast, but I am seeing CPU hovering above 50% just for Edge, which compares to 18% for Chrome. Just by sitting there. But for sure, it is fast.
 
Microsoft is now unapologetically google.

No, no it is not. Chromium is an open-source project led by a developer who has nothing to do with Google.
Google took the source code of Chromium and presented the unwashed masses with Chrome. Chrome is based on Chromium and not vice-versa. MS Edge is based on Chromium and, thus, not on Chrome.
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Not really. Just because they are using an open source engine made by Google, their consumer privacy is on a very different level than Googles.

the open source project named "Chromium" is not made by Google. Google used the open source code by that name for their Chrome OS and Chrome web browser. Chromium has no real ties to Google. It is an open-source project whose lead developer has nothing to do with Google.
 
I hope it will be able to sync my Safari web passwords. Then I can finally start to leave Apple behind. (mostly)

Yes, you can sync them. I've sync'd my Safari passwords, cookies, favorites and other bookmarks to Edge Chromium.
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People, people, people. I see a lot of users here making comments about Edge Chromium, Google and their super spyware known as Chrome. Allow me to correct that false understanding.

Chromium is an open-source project which has nothing to do with Google. Google took the Chromium source-code - it is open-source after all - and created the Chrome OS and Chrome web browser from that source code. Chromium came first, not Chrome. Chromium is it's own entity, within the open-source community, and has nothing to do with Google. (Other than Google using their source code)

MS's newest Edge browser is Chromium-based, not Chrome-based. Two completely different things.
The new Edge browser supports a lot of security settings, controlling things like trackers, adware, third-party cookies, etc. Set correctly NO WEBSITE can track you. None. You even have the ability to delete individual cookies, a group of cookies or every one. Edge is now very customizable as far as security and privacy are concerned. And it is extremely fast in rendering web sites.
 
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Because of Apple's policy... isn't this really "Apple Web-Kit"-Internet Explorer? I thought even native Chrome on iOS/MacOS was really just WebKit with Chrome bolt-ons.
 
Because of Apple's policy... isn't this really "Apple Web-Kit"-Internet Explorer? I thought even native Chrome on iOS/MacOS was really just WebKit with Chrome bolt-ons.
You are correct about it being forced to be WebKit on iOS because of Apple's policy.
However such policy does not exist for MacOS.
 
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Ah. You like Linus Torvalds quotes? Here is another one from him that he said to a friend of his when he used his friend's Mac: "Your Mac sucks."
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Yeah. I'm pretty sure that using a browser from a company that finances itself through an advertisement-based feature called "Brave Rewards" will solve all the privacy problems on the Internet.
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Microsoft has always been firing on all cylinders. They're just not interested in the consumer market (except for their Xbox business), that's why you haven't noticed them. Azure, anyone? The cloud is where they've spent most of their time over the last DECADE. It was big news when Apple announced that they would invest a billion dollar in a (read: one!) new data center. Microsoft invests a billion dollar in Azure infrastructure per year -- and that money does not include annual research or development costs, it's just infrastructure growth.

They're not interested in the consumer market? My Surface Laptop 3 and Surface Pro 7 both beg to differ. 😊
 
Yes, I've heard that it also starts an infinite number of Microsoft services, incl. all their third parts.
Sorry, I don't want to come across as rude but but what does that even mean?
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That Jobs + Gates deal is finally bringing worth to Microsoft (maybe)?
they sold all their stock in 2003!
 
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