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Or simply someone who does not live in the 90s anymore :D.

Me. I installed it. I like it. I live in a world where I use iOS, Mac, and Win10 every day and this browser appears faster than Chrome. Safari is more of an annoyance than anything because I can't sync history or passwords with my Win10 machine. I've even tried 1Password and found their software to be to much of a hassle to be worth free.
 
I might try the new Edge. So can Microsoft finally kill Internet Explorer, or are too many people still using ActiveX?
 
Its a solid browser. But I actually have 4 installed: Safari, Googole Chrome, Firefox and Edge, because they all pizzzz me off in some way and I keep having to switch, depending on situation.
 
the open source project named "Chromium" is not made by Google. Google used the open source code by that name for their Chrome OS and Chrome web browser. Chromium has no real ties to Google. It is an open-source project whose lead developer has nothing to do with Google.

Really? These would disagree with you:


Chromium is based on work by Google. They open sourced it like many companies do but there are ties to Google. All you have to do is dig around chromium.org and see that many of the links for reporting bugs, etc are all Google.
 
iCab browser is by far the best on iOS and MacOS

Steep learning curve, though once figured out, you'll never go back.
 
Do people in the wild really make such heartrending decisions about browsers and software? I'm more of the "if it works well I use it."
I don;t think it's such a big deal to have Office installed on a Mac. Or Chrome. Or Firefox.
 
Everyone is going to jump on this and say it's terrible because it's Microsoft and because Edge (and IE) are terrible. But this is actually good - really good. It's all the benefits of Chrome, but without the Google having your data worries.

If you want to go further down the 'Chrome but privacy' route, then Brave browser takes it a step further. That's Chromium but with a big privacy focus. I've been using it recently (coupled with DuckDuckGo) and it's really good.

When I moved to macOS from Windows about 3 months ago, Safari was my biggest disappointment. Edge and Brave are really good replacements.

I was with you until you started talking about Brave. If you care about your privacy, or for the health of the web - do NOT use that awful software. Their browser includes an ad-system blocks web ads in favor of their own... which is the behavior of malware.

Sure, they pitch it as a feature and give you a cut of their revenue (and publishers too if they opt-in)... but the behavior is the same as a noxious virus.
 
I was with you until you started talking about Brave. If you care about your privacy, or for the health of the web - do NOT use that awful software. Their browser includes an ad-system blocks web ads in favor of their own... which is the behavior of malware.

Sure, they pitch it as a feature and give you a cut of their revenue (and publishers too if they opt-in)... but the behavior is the same as a noxious virus.

Blocking tracking ads, blocking video and audio ads, and replacing it with unintrusive ads? And gives you the ability to disable these ads (actually asks you on first run too). That isn't malware.

If you care about privacy, if you don't want instrusive ads, use Brave.
 
The Chromium project is largely driven by Google now. It's really not as simple as non-profit engine being used by Microsoft. It's a Google driven project being used by Microsoft. That project happens to be non-profit and open source.

Microsoft can and did make their own. However it was problematic with Google services as Google kept moving the goal posts on their products to slow down Edge. The previous version of Edge provided better YouTube performance than Chrome, and Google changed the page layout to break the performance advantage Edge had.

Eventually they just switched the engine Google use so they could keep up with the changes Google were making.

I was talking about Firefox and its Gecko engine, Sorry for the misunderstanding
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I was with you until you started talking about Brave. If you care about your privacy, or for the health of the web - do NOT use that awful software. Their browser includes an ad-system blocks web ads in favor of their own... which is the behavior of malware.

Sure, they pitch it as a feature and give you a cut of their revenue (and publishers too if they opt-in)... but the behavior is the same as a noxious virus.

Brave ads show up only if you choose to join the program, you can also disable adblocking to any site you wish to support or view their ads. If you want open source Chrome browser, Brave it is.
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As for spyware, you will need to quote some sources...

I think we can all agree that corporations are collecting and analyzing data about you. Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Microsoft all are in the ads business. Microsoft via Bing. In fact, Microsoft collects data about you using the whole Windows OS.
 
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Is there anything special, apart from opening a new tab, to be able to do this? I usually have to switch to a different browser to be logged into two different O365 users at the same time. If FF can do this in each tab, that'd be awesome!

Yes, you need to install the Extension (which is from Mozilla itself - they just removed it from the mainline app a while ago). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers

Then you can create multiple containers which have their own cookies and local storage. So the session are separated. The extension adds a "new container tab" button where you can choose in which container the tab should be. The tabs will also get a coloured line underneath the name so you can identify them. And you can also choose to have some sites always open in a specific container.

I highly recommend it, it's really great!
 
Blocking tracking ads, blocking video and audio ads, and replacing it with unintrusive ads? And gives you the ability to disable these ads (actually asks you on first run too). That isn't malware.

If you care about privacy, if you don't want instrusive ads, use Brave.

Replacing the ads which generate revenue for the people who created content, with ads which generate revenue for the people who create software? That's the definition of adware. It's malicious at best.

If you care about privacy, use Firefox and uBlock Origin. Mozilla isn't a for-profit shell company which transparently wants to sell both itself and you to the highest bidder like Brave software is.
 
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Everyone is going to jump on this and say it's terrible because it's Microsoft and because Edge (and IE) are terrible. But this is actually good - really good. It's all the benefits of Chrome, but without the Google having your data worries.

If you want to go further down the 'Chrome but privacy' route, then Brave browser takes it a step further. That's Chromium but with a big privacy focus. I've been using it recently (coupled with DuckDuckGo) and it's really good.

When I moved to macOS from Windows about 3 months ago, Safari was my biggest disappointment. Edge and Brave are really good replacements.
Brave isn’t bad. I’ve been liking Vivaldi as a 2nd browser (Firefox as my main), but I wish they would have an iOS version.
 
The only thing Brave does more than what a standard Ad Blocker does is give the option to pass on revenue to content creators based on non-instrusive ads. As far as content creators are concerned, it's better for them than a standard ad blocker.

If you're using an ad blocker, you don't get to be on a high horse regarding revenue for content creators.

And if malware had off-switches like Braves options (which turns it into a default ad blocker), then we wouldn't have malware. We'd just..turn it off. It isn't malware. It's only malware if you ignore the fact users install and configure it and buy into it, etc etc.
 
The best browser I have used to date was IE5 on Mac OS9. Nothing else has come close. So, while I'm skeptical, I'll give this one a whirl.
 
Everyone is going to jump on this and say it's terrible because it's Microsoft and because Edge (and IE) are terrible. But this is actually good - really good. It's all the benefits of Chrome, but without the Google having your data worries.

replacing a data funnel to google with a data funnel to microsoft is not the answer imo
 
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