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Microsoft's Longhorn

well to be honest IF computers are running at 6ghz in 2 years then 90% of there 95% market share will have to upgraded to even run the os.....

which can only be good for apple, as they will be thee to clear up the mess left by winoze.

makes you wonder what on earth needs upto 6ghz to run it though, doesnt it???
 
1macker1 said:
What don't resemble OSX to people nowadays. Sheesh. I cant wait for longhorn, i love technology. Those last 2 photos look pretty cool to me. But Windows has never really been about cool, it's been about productivity. Think about that.
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I thought MS Windows was about productivity prevention?
 
e-coli said:
I've seen the latest internals. They have a new interface and skin called "glass", and, yes, it is very similar in look to OS X.

IMHO, it looks better than OS X.

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Even if it does look better than OSX, it is important to not forget that OSX is now and Longhorn isn't. We know more about where MS will be in 2 years than where Apple will be in 2 months
 
I can only speak for myself, but I only use my Mac at home for personal use, but I use XP at work, and I can tell you, for what I do, it's very productive.
Bear said:
I thought MS Windows was about productivity prevention?
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I think i've posted this before, but i thought that I would again, just because it has some relevance in this thread. Sun has produced a 3d OS called project "looking glass", and it really looks quite amazing. They show the demo on their website, and the begining is quite boring and dull, but once they get into the meat of the presentation (when they actually show the OS) it's amazing. Here's the link to their looking glass demo: Eat this Microsoft
 
e-coli said:
I've seen the latest internals. They have a new interface and skin called "glass", and, yes, it is very similar in look to OS X.

IMHO, it looks better than OS X.

:(
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I wonder what the Mac OS will look like by the time Longhorn (man, it's just begging for a better name) is released. I guess I don't really care what Windoze does, as long as Apple keeps leading the industry in innovation and rock solid system performance. Apple will always be several steps ahead of MS... they always have been, except in that biggest chunk of market share thing.
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The minimized window are way to big. But it is a cool looking concept.
mgargan1 said:
I think i've posted this before, but i thought that I would again, just because it has some relevance in this thread. Sun has produced a 3d OS called project "looking glass", and it really looks quite amazing. They show the demo on their website, and the begining is quite boring and dull, but once they get into the meat of the presentation (when they actually show the OS) it's amazing. Here's the link to their looking glass demo: Eat this Microsoft
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icon4x said:
Also, as long as they don't get rid of the Einstein guy, the dog, and the paperclip things... well, that's all that matters. Show of hands how many people think Longhorn will be just as insecure as the other MS OSes, and crash just as much???
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I think it'll be more secure; I think they'll turn off and disable so many services it won't be able to do much more than open a single copy of Solitaire.
 
blueBomber said:
They are out there, but from what I have seen, it's a bit underwhelming. The GIANT dock looking thing (I can't remember what they are calling it) takes up much more screen than I would care to sacrifice. Things may have changed a bit since then though, as the pictures I saw were from an early build.
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That sounds like the sidebar. It's with Office apps on Windows to. It is context sensitive. They feel that you will have a large enough monitor to handle it.

Also I doubt Virtual PC will be able to run Longhorn based on the system requirements even if they optimize their O/S some more.
 
iHack said:
Hmmm. This OS seems to be perfect for easter. Did anybody else notice what longhorn wants us to do to our contacts in this screenshot ?
M.
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Love that recycle bin! Hmmm... where could I have seen that before?
 

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wordmunger said:
Actually, I was talking about three years from now, 2007--Moore's law says the processor will double every 18 months (though technically this was number of transistors, not CPU speed).

If you look at the Apple Pro desktops from three years ago, they shipped with 60 GB hard drives. Now they ship with 160 GB HDs, nearly tripling. So in 2007 we'll be talking about 400-500 GB HDs standard--not quite there. It will probably take until 2008 or 2009 before we start seeing standard Terabyte HDs.
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I re-iterate, from the MacByte's Forum Discussion of Longhorn.

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Well, it seems that I'm not allowed to just cut and paste what I said to a place it would actually be seen... :rolleyes:

Seriously, people. Go read the post.
 
By 2007 there will be new Longhorn or OS X 10.7 - as in a system seriously upgraded probably 3 times since Panther which already rocks. Let's hope Apple do their marketing thing and there are a few million new Mac users by then rolling their eyes at "new" MS effects and displays that have been in OS X for years.
 
Xnet said:
According to Paul Thurrott

This is a sample of AVALON

http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winhec2004_24.jpg
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OMG, if that's what the UI looks like, I might as well become a toddler. Those icons are gargantuan! I wish MS would come up with it's own ideas at this point, it feels like every time the Mac does something it's amazing, but someone does a revision of it, and the fame is stolen. All well, GL apple, make Tiger count!
 
I dont think those specs are right. I mean really. They just throwing these numbers out to screw with the other companies.
addiecool said:
1TB of HDD to install the OS? :eek: So do we believe that in the next two years we will require 5-10TB of disc space for all apps? MS su**s !!!
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You do see how big of a screen that the UI is being displayed on right.
Krrill said:
OMG, if that's what the UI looks like, I might as well become a toddler. Those icons are gargantuan! I wish MS would come up with it's own ideas at this point, it feels like every time the Mac does something it's amazing, but someone does a revision of it, and the fame is stolen. All well, GL apple, make Tiger count!
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Macrumors said:
average system requirements are expected to be a 4-6GHz PC with 2GB of RAM and one terabyte of storage.
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OK. First off keep in mind that the underpinnings of this will have serious ties into a database scheme so 2GB of RAM isn't TOTALLY unexpected. But I find it VERY hard to believe 1TB for disk space. WHF?!? In current iterations of Windows at least 60% of the space is taken up by the swapfile and driver cache (e.g. Driver.cab.) I want to know what in the name of all things bloated could possibly require 1TB of storage space.

Secondly the CPU requirements I don't believe for a second. Why? Because I've run prebeta of Longhorn on my 800Mhz/512MB RAM/40GB laptop and while hardly fast it DOES run.
I think the above specs are for the high end of Longhorn. They are implementing tiered system requirement. (e.g. to get everything you need W specs. To get this, this and this you need X specs, to get this and this you need Y specs. And to simply run Longhorn you need Z specs.) I highly doubt MS is going to lock everyone out of upgrading. They'd be morons to do so esp considering the enterprise environment who WILL NOT go out and buy new hardware simply for Longshot.


Overall, though, Longhorn still had an Apple look to it. I suppose imitation is a form of flattery, after all
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JESUS ******** Christ!! :mad: I can't tell you how many PC users I've talked to who scoff at the eye candy in OS X and yet this crap is now surfacing!! We don't need eye candy naaa Oh my bad. Now we do. ARRRGGGHHH!! Freaking hypocrites. **breath...breath...I'm calm...I'm calm ;) **

All in all I'm interested in rimshot..er...longshot...er...Longhorn. The thing is I'll FINALLY have my G5 17" PowerBook, I HOPE!, by the time Longshot shows up so its a moot point for me. :p


One last note.
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IS IT OFFICIAL?!?!? 2007?!?! OMG!!! Apple has such a chance here to recapture a segment of the market its not even funny!!!
 
in all of those pictures there is nothing to sggest that it will need 1000gb or a 6ghz processor to run it..... its b.s.
 
1macker1 said:
I dont think those specs are right. I mean really. They just throwing these numbers out to screw with the other companies.
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Then you don't pay attention at all to what's in the pipe for various companies. Even though the target date has slid, Jonas and Merom could easily prove to be dual-core x86 processors that run from 4-6ghz, and they won't even be the poweruser chips. They're inteded for home use.

Right now, we have 250GB 3" HDs. That was pretty amazing two years ago, when 120GB was the upper limit. Double again over the next two years, and that gives you 500GB, then tack on a RAID controller - 1 TB.

Think before you start with the MS defense. This is easily possible over the next two years, just at current advancement speeds, and especially if Intel abandons the P7-core and moves on with the Tejas and Dothan/Jonas/Merom cores.
 
addiecool said:
1TB of HDD to install the OS? :eek: So do we believe that in the next two years we will require 5-10TB of disc space for all apps? MS su**s !!!
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this doesnt make sense


1tb for the entire system, my bet no more then 3gb needed for the OS
and the rest for addins and applications and such. i think those specs list what a highend PC will have when Longhorn appears. not what it needs to run.

think about it if longhorn itself needs 1tb. think about the install disks needed

You would need 222 DVD disks then :) its crazy.. not even in the old floppy days did you have more then a dozen or so to install windows.
 
mgargan1 said:
I think i've posted this before, but i thought that I would again, just because it has some relevance in this thread. Sun has produced a 3d OS called project "looking glass", and it really looks quite amazing. They show the demo on their website, and the begining is quite boring and dull, but once they get into the meat of the presentation (when they actually show the OS) it's amazing. Here's the link to their looking glass demo: Eat this Microsoft
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Sun is rock solid, too, but obsessed with Java. Sun's OSes have typically been real borring, requiring very low system requirements, and teh user having an above average knowledge of Unix. Sun builds some of the most reliable, efficient systems ever built. I've seen Sun boxes run for 5 years in a production environment without any downtime. Sun has never been that user friendly, designed more for use and support by technical professionals (a very limited market), but they are probably some of the most reliable systems ever created.

I wrote this on an Ultra 10.
 
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