Microsoft's Next Seinfeld Ad Airs: 'New Family'

[AidenShaw]

My god you are the biggest Apple fanboy I have seen so far on this forum, go drink your apple cool-aid.

IMHO, you've hit the nail on the head.

I particularly like:

Actual message: MS in it's NT core is ancient and decrepid [SIC] while OS X is refined, innovative, blah blah blah...

Yes, NT's "ancient and decrepit" core was released in 1993, whereas Apple's core is BSD from 1978.

And, by the way, ask the owner of a PPC Apple if he wouldn't appreciate a little of that "backward compatibility" loving right now.

When Snow Leopard comes out and drops support for all PPC Apples and all 32-bit Intel Apples, a lot of people will be crying as they add their Apples to the toxic waste dumps.

 

[Hands Sandon]

seinfeld is my boy, i grew up on the show, almost every night growing up, so i am biased for sure, but i think the commercials are hilarious... they're horrendous commercials for computers, but they're funny nonetheless. Seinfeld being seinfeld, and bill gates trying to be funny seems to work for me. at the end, when they force in that ten seconds of "vista talk" it falls apart, but up until then, i love it

In what scenario does "innovation" not serve any good? I'm not saying Windows is loaded with the stuff, but any "innovation" (i.e. Forward-looking, producing something like nothing experienced before) is good.


Yet here we are talking about it. People are stuck on the OS. Nothing has even been hinted (besides the headlines the media has gave them) that these ads are even remotely trying to advocate a "cool" message of Windows. In fact, it has nothing to do with windows at all. It's a Microsoft commercial, advocating a sense of trying to understand the average person. (Hence the super rich living with the super-average)...


Oh, so having "normal" people in a commercial is copying Apple? My god, it must be sad to live in such a narrow minded world. Take a look at the TV... Any commercial advertising any type of consumer product features "normal" people as a way to relate to the target audience.

Innovation implies a breakthrough invention,for you MS's OS is innovation for the rest of us it's just an old guy drowning in his beer not able to get up from his slumber,whilst Apples calling "Finish up your drinks please and go"

 

[AidenShaw]

Innovation implies a breakthrough invention,for you MS's OS is innovation for the rest of us it's just an old guy drowning in his beer not able to get up from his slumber,whilst Apples calling "Finish up your drinks please and go"

Hands, back to the inside voice. You're slipping into crazy talk again.

If it's hard, just remember - in 24 hours we'll have a *new* Bill and Jerry episode to disect!

 

[Hands Sandon]

Hands, back to the inside voice. You're slipping into crazy talk again.

If it's hard, just remember - in 24 hours we'll have a *new* Bill and Jerry episode to disect!

You must mean,take it's rotting corpse and drop it in a toxic landfill.

 

[r0k]

I look forward to the Bill and Jerry ads. I'm sure they will all add up to tell a story. Seeing a guy who has lcd "paintings" in his 40,000 square foot house sit down to dinner in a room that falls far short of 2,500 square feet and dish up his own scalloped potatoes is pretty funny.

I'm a little worried about the tone in this thread. All these fanboy accusations seem out of place in a thread about tv commercials. About the only M$ hardware I allow under my roof is an Xbox and a few mice (the Mighty Mouse is anything but mighty!)... But I can still enjoy the Bill&Jerry ads.

 

[DMann]

CNBC reported MSFT will be scrapping all Seinfeld/Microsoft related ads effective immediately,

The most intelligent decision MS has done in regard to advertising.

That's not exactly correct; what they said was that the ad campaign was shifting, and that MS said the shift has been planned.

In MS speak, this translates to: they're scrapping it. (To be [dis]connected)

 

[AidenShaw]

Originally Posted by Eric S.
That's not exactly correct; what they said was that the ad campaign was shifting, and that MS said the shift has been planned

In MS speak, this translates to: they're scrapping it. (To be [dis]connected)

Even the imbeciles on this forum knew that the first few Seinfeld ads would be teasers, and then the ad campaign would move into specifics.

Did you miss that, or just not understand it?

Here, I've a nice pitcher of cold Kool-Aid for you....

 

[DMann]

Even the imbeciles on this forum knew that the first few Seinfeld ads would be teasers, and then the ad campaign would move into specifics.

Did you miss that, or just not understand it?

Here, I've a nice pitcher of cold Kool-Aid for you....

Keep it up, Kool-Aid......... coming from someone who has difficulty with the ability to count, and with numbers in general:

You must be reading in the "delicious future" - I only see 32 pages....

while referring to page 51.

I particularly like: whereas Apple's core is BSD from 1978.

FreeBSD's development actually began in 1993.

Furthermore, having scarfed your avatar from someone else who posted it on this website speaks volumes.

 

[AidenShaw]

Keep it up, Kool-Aid......... coming from someone who has difficulty with the ability to count, and with numbers in general:

while referring to page 51.

You really are desperate to distract everyone from your troubles here, aren't you?

On these forums, if you go to the user control panel, and select "Settings and Options" - you'll have the choice (I know, the word "choice" is scary to Mac people used to having the Lord God Jobs determine their lives) of how many "lines per page" that you have.

Therefore, saying that something is on "page 20" is more-or-less meaningless - "page 20" for one user isn't the same as "page 20" for other users.

FreeBSD's development actually began in 1993.

No, no, no.

FreeBSD was a port of 4.3BSD that released in 1993. The code is based in the 1978 BSD distribution - but some code that belonged to AT&T had to be rewritten and other things to make it "free". The first FreeBSD code base had a lot of 15 year old code in it.

The first release named "FreeBSD" was in '93, but to say "development began in 1993" is complete BS. The FreeBSD port was available and in use in '93. This was only possible because much of the code was really from the '78 BSD release and its descendants.

Furthermore, having scarfed your avatar from someone else who posted it on this website speaks volumes.

Oh, the most obtuse of ad hominem attacks - "don't trust Aiden, he borrowed his avatar".

I can't wait for your response - I'm baffled to see how you'll be able to go much lower than this one...

 

[Hands Sandon]

Hands, back to the inside voice. You're slipping into crazy talk again.

If it's hard, just remember - in 24 hours we'll have a *new* Bill and Jerry episode to disect!

I'm not sure why you wrote the imbociles rant (presumably,those who willingly give up their freedoms!)but the ice cream ads have had there final scoop!

 

[Eidorian]

Well, if a single application is capable of bringing down the entire OS, Vista included, then it would actually take very little force.

FireFox and Adobe hate OS X.

They're my number one causes of hard reboots.

 

[SeeFlat]

You really are desperate to distract everyone from your troubles here, aren't you?

Your a strange one. I think you must have the most posts in these forums. Why do you spend so much time on a "mac Fanboy" site? It doesn't matter if you like apple, hate apple, hate people who love apple. Love bill gates, think Microsoft is fantastic. Think the ads are genius, subtle...funny... efficient... What the heck are you so bitter about? To take the time to make an avatar with jobs and kool-aid... (wow) I just don't get it, all this time you spend here serves no purpose, is not constructive. If you know your machines are so great, that your windows software is better, enjoy it instead of wasting your time pissing on these silly people who are delusional, misguided and obviously not as smart as you.

FireFox and Adobe hate OS X.
They're my number one causes of hard reboots.

Adobe as a whole or some of their software? I dont use firefox but do use Photoshop and Golive on a G5 dual 2ghz / os 10.5.4, now 10.5.5 but not long enough to have an opinion on update) I NEVER have hard crashes on this machine. NEVER

 

[Eric S.]

In MS speak, this translates to: they're scrapping it. (To be [dis]connected)

Right - and they just happen to have some other ads lying around. They weren't planned to be part of the same ad campaign or anything.

 

[DMann]

Therefore, saying that something is on "page 20" is more-or-less meaningless - "page 20" for one user isn't the same as "page 20" for other users.

By your logic, You simply assume that the majority of users have adjusted their page view to 40 as you have, and are puzzled that their page count exceeds yours? Oblivious assumption on your part.

FreeBSD was a port of 4.3BSD that released in 1993. The code is based in the 1978 BSD distribution - but some code that belonged to AT&T had to be rewritten and other things to make it "free". The first FreeBSD code base had a lot of 15 year old code in it.

Actually, FreeBSD's development did begin in 1993 with an unofficial patchkit maintained by users of the 386BSD operating system. Sure, FreeBSD code base had a lot of 15 year old code in it in its early stages, so then we might as well state that much of the NT code was really that of OS/2 and its descendants.

If you insist on exploiting someone else's art work, at the very least, give credit to the original artist, Caleb, who rendered this picture back in 2006:

 

[Eidorian]

Adobe as a whole or some of their software? I dont use firefox but do use Photoshop and Golive on a G5 dual 2ghz / os 10.5.4, now 10.5.5 but not long enough to have an opinion on update) I NEVER have hard crashes on this machine. NEVER

Adobe applications and OS X have never gotten along for me.

FireFox will lock the entire system when opening new tabs on a few of my favorite sites. I can't replicate it on the same page the next time though. It sounds like a bad ad rotation.

I love OS X but I've had fewer if any unexplainable crashes in Windows. In Windows it's normally my fault when a BSOD happens. Even in those instances it's a shady driver or overclocking a little too far.

 

[DMann]

Adobe applications and OS X have never gotten along for me.

FireFox will lock the entire system when opening new tabs on a few of my favorite sites. I can't replicate it on the same page the next time though. It sounds like a bad ad rotation.

I love OS X but I've had fewer if any unexplainable crashes in Windows. In Windows it's normally my fault when a BSOD happens. Even in those instances it's a shady driver or overclocking a little too far.

Sorry to hear it. We use both Firefox and Safari, Adobe CS3: Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, and Premier, (FCP more) and never once had a single problem. What kind of system hardware are you running?

 

[Eidorian]

Sorry to hear it. We use both Firefox and Safari, Adobe CS3: Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, and Premier, (FCP more) and never once had a single problem. What kind of system hardware are you running?

My MacBook is my only personal Mac right now.

Adobe applications are even worse when using network home directories (SMB/CIFS) but that's something I don't suffer at home. I figured that one out for work. Safari is another culprit for hard reboots but I can trace that to Flash. The Flash plug-in is miserable on OS X.

My PC usually stands in for gaming and HandBrake. I built it myself. It'd be running Vista but Vista doesn't like DHCP from a non-Microsoft server and Company of Heroes has pathetic performance on it.

 

[sra. Aguirre]

In what scenario does "innovation" not serve any good? I'm not saying Windows is loaded with the stuff, but any "innovation" (i.e. Forward-looking, producing something like nothing experienced before) is good.my point was there's no use "upgrading" your OS if 70% of the time it bugs and crashes....IMHO they upgraded for all the wrong reasons 1 e.g. throw a new bone in the mass market (and I am being fair!) So I rather have less "innovation" and more stability!


Yet here we are talking about it. People are stuck on the OS. Nothing has even been hinted (besides the headlines the media has gave them) that these ads are even remotely trying to advocate a "cool" message of Windows. In fact, it has nothing to do with windows at all. It's a Microsoft commercial, advocating a sense of trying to understand the average person. (Hence the super rich living with the super-average)... why would you WANT to admit that as a company you have NOT understood the average person so far? I mean only by needing such an ad you're putting yourself up for laughs, and even worse if you see the second ad, where the "average" people have literally pestered them away and there they go like two lonesome cowboys down the long and winding road to nowhere.....again, just having a funny guy in your ad does not state a point (and I like Seinfeld mind you!)


Oh, so having "normal" people in a commercial is copying Apple? My god, it must be sad to live in such a narrow minded world. Take a look at the TV... Any commercial advertising any type of consumer product features "normal" people as a way to relate to the target audience.

IT IS NOT A MATTER OF NARROW MINDEDNESS, I am just a regular Apple loving gal that prefers Mac, not some so called hardcore Apple Fan .....not to toot my own horn, but I happen to "work in the tv biz" for a living and this Microsoft ad is a weak "copy" of the Apple ads. Not because they want to say the same, but because they use the same concept e.g. "the average guy" and what's worse; in Apple's ads there's an average guy portraying that company and some rich geek portraying Microsoft, what do those "wizards" at Microsoft do? They tap into that!!! Essentially agreeing with the Apple ad, only thing is they now make an effort to connect with John Doe..I mean does suddenly the fact that Bill buys at Shoe Circus and knows how to eat poor peoples food give him the right to sell an OS full of bugs and crash reports? PLEAZ what Ad Agency has tricked them out of millions for such crap!? Jeez, if they'd only hired me

 

[Nasus]

WOW! Everyone take a deep breath.... It's only a discussion about the ads not he second coming . Personally, I like the ads. I'm an old gal so these two old guys looking stupid make me laugh - end of story. The bottom line is that NO ad should influence your decision to buy anything. I love my Mac (even if I am old) and it wouldn't matter if Microsoft or Apple came out with something that had me ROTFL it would never influence my purchase decisions.

All I had to do is use a Mac once to know - "me like"!

 

[DMann]

My MacBook is my only personal Mac right now.

Adobe applications are even worse when using network home directories (SMB/CIFS) but that's something I don't suffer at home. I figured that one out for work. Safari is another culprit for hard reboots but I can trace that to Flash. The Flash plug-in is miserable on OS X.

My PC usually stands in for gaming and HandBrake. I built it myself. It'd be running Vista but Vista doesn't like DHCP from a non-Microsoft server and Company of Heroes has pathetic performance on it.

Has Apple opened that store in Mexico City yet? Could this be related to the GMA X3100? True, flash plug-ins are problematic in Safari, but hard reboots might be symptomatic of a hardware failure.

IT IS NOT A MATTER OF NARROW MINDEDNESS, I am just a regular Apple loving gal that prefers Mac, not some so called hardcore Apple Fan .....not to toot my own horn, but I happen to "work in the tv biz" for a living and this Microsoft ad is a weak "copy" of the Apple ads. Not because they want to say the same, but because they use the same concept e.g. "the average guy" and what's worse; in Apple's ads there's an average guy portraying that company and some rich geek portraying Microsoft, what do those "wizards" at Microsoft do? They tap into that!!! Essentially agreeing with the Apple ad, only thing is they now make an effort to connect with John Doe..I mean does suddenly the fact that Bill buys at Shoe Circus and knows how to eat poor peoples food give him the right to sell an OS full of bugs and crash reports? PLEAZ what Ad Agency has tricked them out of millions for such crap!? Jeez, if they'd only hired me

It gets worse with their next slew of "I'm a PC" ads.....too little, too late, and too obviously emulated and reactive. I'ts not easy peddling slog and vaporware when better options are available around the corner.

 

[Eidorian]

Has Apple opened that store in Mexico City yet? Could this be related to the GMA X3100? True, flash plug-ins are problematic in Safari, but hard reboots might be symptomatic of a hardware failure

I've had the same behavior on my iMac G5 at work as well. So it's not related to the GPU or architecture.

 

[complexs]

The big problems with Vista were the UAC and the fact that hardware drivers didn't work with it at first, much like what happened when XP first came out. Then the hardware manufactures created new drivers that did work and now Vista supports over 77,000 different type of peripherals.

Can Apple computers support this many peripherals, NO. This is why apple will never be on top and will always stay behind Microsoft. That and the fact they make OS X check for a specific chip to ensure its a computer made by apple which is BS because if they were smart they would let you install OS X on any PC. Apple computers have nothing special in them that other computers don't have, but hey if you guys wanna be fanboys for apple be my guess but quit thinking Apple is so INNOVATIVE.

If Microsoft stole the GUI (Graphic User Interface) from the original Mac, do you think Apple created it? NO, it was Xerox PARC Department that did and Steve Jobs stole it from them.

 

[Eric S.]

they make OS X check for a specific chip to ensure its a computer made by apple which is BS

Uh no, they don't. Why do you think it's possible to build a hackintosh?

 

[complexs]

You know what, you Windows Lover....first things first .it's no use having "innovation" if it doesn't serve any good,

2nd it is the ad that's being criticized in this thread not the Operating System....and although it made me smile sometimes the ad DOES look like a very nerdy attempt of Windows to be cool. and there's nothing more HORRIBLE than seeing your almost 60 year old dad trying to be cool.......this ad is a desperate attempt at just that...it would have been much funnier if they had tapped into the nerd image Apple gives them and did something funny with that, now THAT I would call sense of humor IMHO

Are you kidding me? This thread changed from talking about the commercial too talking mad crap on Vista and instead of everyone hating on the commercial a lot of people actually like it and they are on a all mac forum? That should say something.

By the way I don't love Windows or Microsoft I like computers OS's in general, that means Windows, OSX, Linux - Ubuntu, Unix - FreeBSD. I don't have a hatred that blinds me like so many people on here who just hate on the success of Microsoft.

 

[complexs]

Uh no, they don't. Why do you think it's possible to build a hackintosh?

Because they created software or a chip to emulate the apple one, I am not sure. I don't really know all the in's and out's of the Apple hardware and software, but I am willing to learn about it.