seinfeld is my boy, i grew up on the show, almost every night growing up, so i am biased for sure, but i think the commercials are hilarious... they're horrendous commercials for computers, but they're funny nonetheless. Seinfeld being seinfeld, and bill gates trying to be funny seems to work for me. at the end, when they force in that ten seconds of "vista talk" it falls apart, but up until then, i love it
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My exposure to Seinfeld amounts to Bee Movie, but I think the ad is a step in the right direction. I'm trying to think back to some older MS adds and am coming up blank. It isn't going to change my opinion of MS, but I'm not really their target audience. Not that this add is the sole indication, but I do think that Bill G recognizes that his company is going to have to approach his customers (and in this case audience) much more differently than they have in the past. MS is still the 800lb'r, and one could certainly make the "window dressing" (or the more recent "lipstick" comment), but I think the arrogance is slowly (really really really slowly) wearing off. Not that the term 'arrogance' could ever be applied to Apple..
My exposure to Seinfeld amounts to Bee Movie, but I think the ad is a step in the right direction. I'm trying to think back to some older MS adds and am coming up blank. It isn't going to change my opinion of MS, but I'm not really their target audience. Not that this add is the sole indication, but I do think that Bill G recognizes that his company is going to have to approach his customers (and in this case audience) much more differently than they have in the past. MS is still the 800lb'r, and one could certainly make the "window dressing" (or the more recent "lipstick" comment), but I think the arrogance is slowly (really really really slowly) wearing off. Not that the term 'arrogance' could ever be applied to Apple..
Come on, DMann. XP's been extremely good since I applied SP3.
I didn't know they still made hammers with wooden handles,arn't they much more prone to breaking if you use them with a lot of force!?
Well, if a single application is capable of bringing down the entire OS, Vista included, then it would actually take very little force.
Your points might carry more weight and appear less biased if you stopped using so much anecdotal evidence and acknowledged that there are trends out there that you are ignoring. You also repeatedly ignore posts that appear to refute your point, making your POV look even more contrived and like flame-bating.
Kernel panics are pretty rare in Leopard - this happened a few weeks after Leopard was released, to some users, who happened to be running Azureus, wirelessly. It seemed to have been caused by a Java/airport conflict and had since been fixed.
Several sites have actually been dedicated to Windows crashing, including Vista. (i.e. Windows Crash Gallery) System wide crashes occur on Windows even while using MS' own legacy apps such as Word:
http://telcontar.net/store/archive/CrashGallery/?page=1
Force quitting in OS X is by far a superior option to that of Windows: Ctrl+Alt+Delete = reboot/loose all of your work.
No argument - just like most of the kernel panics ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blue-screens in Vista have been shown to be interactions with 3rd party privileged code. (For me personally, if I remove the Nvidia graphics crashes (those nv*.sys files on the stack) and VMware, I've probably averaged one or two blue-screens a year with Vista.)
And just like Vista, this was fixed by an update soon after release.
Nice to see those Win95 and Win98 blue screens again.
On the other hand, today on the 10.5.5 update thread there was a discussion of Word crashing on start after the 10.5.5 upgrade. Hmmm.... The discussion hit on "check your fonts - a corrupted font can cause this".
Considering the hundreds of millions of Windows systems out there, most of them belonging to the clueless ^H^H^H^H^H^H people without computer training - is it any wonder that a web site can exist that collects error messages? (note that most of the messages at Windows Crash Gallery are not crashes)
I'm sorry, but I don't understand the difference between "force quit" on OSX and "stop process" from the task manager on NT. This "Ctrl+Alt+Del Reboot" thing hasn't been needed much since Win9x.
Oh, you mean 'kill -9,' which sends you into a cyclical pop-up asking if you really want to end the program. You say end now, and it pops up again. And again. Sure, I prefer that to some of the other brilliantly profound warning loops, and almost as much as recovering from spontaneous reboots in XP, which reboots your PC without permission - thank you, not.
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I really meant selecting "End Process" from the process tab in the task manager on Vista. There's no "kill" command in Vista.
There's no mystery to the "spontaneous reboot", except it shows the inexperience of the user who reports it. The system "startup and recovery" settings are set to "automatically reboot" after a crash. It's not a mystery spontaneous reboot, the system is crashing and restarting. Probably bad memory or driver issues, just like most crashes. The error log and/or crash dump log should have information on the cause.
Did you look at Aaron's desktop shortcuts and task bar icons? It looks like he's downloading porn at 2AM and probably picked up something nasty.
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Nice job of selecting silly old error message images, some of those look like they're from Windows 3.1 or older.
I'll have to do an image search for System 7 and OS 8 crashes to counter this.
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Again, the serious question that you did not answer was "how does 'end process' on Vista differ from 'force quit' on OSX?".
It's Wednesday morning, only 36 hours until the next Microsoft commercial set airs!
It's Wednesday morning, only 36 hours until the next Microsoft commercial set airs!
Crisis leads to 36 hours of hope!Breaking news-Apple increases it's percentage of notebook market share by 60% over last year for 3 consecutive months!
My god you are the biggest Apple fanboy I have seen so far on this forum, go drink your apple cool-aid. Windows is far more innovative than OS X.
Well said.
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This was in response to someone who thought the ads wouldn't help MS.Some people have to use MS but that leaves a lot of people who can choose the elitist,useless and of course superior, Apple.
This was in response to someone who thought the ads wouldn't help MS.Some people have to use MS but that leaves a lot of people who can choose the elitist,useless and of course superior, Apple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWPf1BWtkw
Tonight, Microsoft aired the second of a series of new ads featuring Bill Gates and comedian Jerry Seinfeld. The long version of the ad (4m 30s) is embedded above via YouTube and a high quality version is available at Microsoft.com.
I should've known better after watching that first video.....but still curious to see if they had actually improved anything after feedback....the verdict? 3% improvement, 97% PURE CRAP!!!!!!!! DOESN'T ANYBODY DARE TELLING THE EMPEROR HE HAS NO CLOTHES ON? Jeeeezzz
Now where did you get this joyful news?
I saw they had Perpetually Connecting (PC) as tagline in that ad..I mean how retarded is that?! They not only copy the Apple ads by having "normal" people in their ads now they want to get into the Nokia vibe too??? I mean...hellooooo Perpetually Crashing would be a better tagline under those horrid Vista conditions....
Didn't Bill Gates retire? I think he's best doing humanitarian work....
Didn't Bill Gates retire? I think he's best doing humanitarian work....
You know what, you Windows Lover....first things first .it's no use having "innovation" if it doesn't serve any good,
2nd it is the ad that's being criticized in this thread not the Operating System....and although it made me smile sometimes the ad DOES look like a very nerdy attempt of Windows to be cool. and there's nothing more HORRIBLE than seeing your almost 60 year old dad trying to be cool.......this ad is a desperate attempt at just that...it would have been much funnier if they had tapped into the nerd image Apple gives them and did something funny with that, now THAT I would call sense of humor IMHO
That's not exactly correct; what they said was that the ad campaign was shifting, and that MS said the shift has been planned.
In what scenario does "innovation" not serve any good? I'm not saying Windows is loaded with the stuff, but any "innovation" (i.e. Forward-looking, producing something like nothing experienced before) is good.
Yet here we are talking about it. People are stuck on the OS. Nothing has even been hinted (besides the headlines the media has gave them) that these ads are even remotely trying to advocate a "cool" message of Windows. In fact, it has nothing to do with windows at all. It's a Microsoft commercial, advocating a sense of trying to understand the average person. (Hence the super rich living with the super-average)...
Oh, so having "normal" people in a commercial is copying Apple? My god, it must be sad to live in such a narrow minded world. Take a look at the TV... Any commercial advertising any type of consumer product features "normal" people as a way to relate to the target audience.