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Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote?
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I guess people forget the keynote where Bill Gates appeared via satellite to guarantee that they would keep making Office:Mac and invest money in Apple to keep them afloat... 
True but you probably should mention that the new SDK agreement effectively bans MonoTouch from iPhone development.
I agree, it's about as likely as Extensions for Safari. Not gonna happen.
This is a weird rumor. Why would Microsoft, approaching the release of their hope-to-be-competitive-with-the-iPhone Windows Phone 7 release, suddenly become a huge enabler for the iPhone ecosystem? Would Apple switching to Bing be a big enough incentive? I couldn't see MS doing this *without* Apple switching to Bing as the iPhone search engine.
I don't think this will come true, but if it does:
1) It looks like this is Microsoft's turn to make a deal with the devil. The foot's on the other hand now!
2) Seeing the crowd's reaction to Ballmer's introduction will be "interesting".
3) This would show how truly, deeply Apple and Microsoft are at war with Google.
4) *Great* for Apple. The negative of switching to Bing would be minor compared to the positive of offering development on Visual Studio.
Interesting stuff!
I don't think this will come true, but if it does:
1) It looks like this is Microsoft's turn to make a deal with the devil. The foot's on the other hand now!
2) Seeing the crowd's reaction to Ballmer's introduction will be "interesting".
3) This would show how truly, deeply Apple and Microsoft are at war with Google.
4) *Great* for Apple. The negative of switching to Bing would be minor compared to the positive of offering development on Visual Studio.
Interesting stuff!
I will officially crap my pants with joy if this is true!
I'm a Windows developer who works with Visual Studio every day and I've been meaning to make iPhone apps, but have a hard time finding time to learn XCode and Objective C. This would be SOOOO awesome if true!
I'm a Windows developer who works with Visual Studio every day and I've been meaning to make iPhone apps, but have a hard time finding time to learn XCode and Objective C. This would be SOOOO awesome if true!
I don't think MS could stop Apple even if they wanted to. VS is pretty open for extension and Microsoft aren't in the habit of banning stuff that bring developers to their platform.
But Apple won't do it, of course.
Yes
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If people can develop iPhone/Mac apps on Visual Studio in Windows then there is less incentive for to buy a Mac. Seems counter intuitive for Apple. The iPod was first the trojan horse that was supposed to get people over to the Mac platform. Maybe they just don't care enough about it now that they are selling so much of the iDevices?
I would much rather it be a native version of Visual Studio that let me develop for Mac using .Net.
I would much rather it be a native version of Visual Studio that let me develop for Mac using .Net.
More like, Microsoft must REALLY hate Google.
This is really a case where Microsoft went to Apple, not the other way around.
Given the moves to desktop virtualization and moving business desktops into the cloud, Microsoft probably feels pretty safe against Apple because who cares what device the user has. The enterprise has already made it's decision to go Windows, and there's no business case to switch -- that is until Google's cloud offerings really take hold. So Microsoft is more scared of Google than they ever would be against Apple.
Why is this so hard to believe? Other CEOs have been invited to the SteveNote before. It shows respect to Jobs and frankly humbles them a little. It would send quite a message that the CEO of M$ is presenting at WWDC.
Doesn't most of the viruses created with visual basic? Most of them I see with a .vbs extension name. Does this mean that we should invest to an anti virus also?
And there's also high end 3D CAD from Siemens: NX6.0 and recently added NX7.5 for
OS.Apple uses it themselves for many of it's designs I've been told.
Greetings,
Frank
This isn't exactly a secret. How do you think Safari (a Cocoa app) runs on Windows?
Why would he? If Microsoft kept that stock since August 6, 1997, it would be worth $5,465,149,253.73 today.
I think that it was a pretty good investment.
Hickman
If I recall correctly MS sold off the stock back in 2003. I was just showing how horrible that decision was.
Hickman
If this happens then it's showing clearly that Apple less concerned of future of Mac OS X then iThings. One more reason not to be paying attention towards pro Mac users.
Not that this would actually happen. But it sure is fun to think about.
Certainly with all the efforts to port llvm to windows, it would be possible to get the needed objective-c compiling working under studio.
Visual Studio already knows how to cross compile for different platforms, so the "infrastructure" is already in place for VS2010 to produce non-windows, non-intel binaries.
None of it is un-doable, and it would open up iPhone development to a large number of people that just don't want to learn XCode (which is the actual stumbling block that I hear about most often. XCode is just too foreign when compared with VS).
Oh well, that was fun. Back to reality.
... and by the way, isn't it strange that no matter what kind of picture is taken of Ballmer, he always looks kind of goofy?
It's unlikely that Apple would allow .Net code to be compiled down into Objective-C, or run natively on the iPhone. If this happened it would be more likely that Apple would allow it's frameworks and the Objective-C compiler to be accessible to Visual Studio (you would target the iPhone in your project/solution).
Certainly with all the efforts to port llvm to windows, it would be possible to get the needed objective-c compiling working under studio.
Visual Studio already knows how to cross compile for different platforms, so the "infrastructure" is already in place for VS2010 to produce non-windows, non-intel binaries.
None of it is un-doable, and it would open up iPhone development to a large number of people that just don't want to learn XCode (which is the actual stumbling block that I hear about most often. XCode is just too foreign when compared with VS).
Oh well, that was fun. Back to reality.
... and by the way, isn't it strange that no matter what kind of picture is taken of Ballmer, he always looks kind of goofy?
It's unlikely that Apple would allow .Net code to be compiled down into Objective-C, or run natively on the iPhone. If this happened it would be more likely that Apple would allow it's frameworks and the Objective-C compiler to be accessible to Visual Studio (you would target the iPhone in your project/solution).