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Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote?
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It would be GREAT to see SB on stage with SJ...if true, this is gonna be an incredibly intelligent move by Apple in terms of the potential developer community, especially NOW that MS is the soon-to-be-poor underdog; we need to give them a hand, guys
GOOGLE IS EVIL, don't forget that.
MS IS ALIVE. AND SO IS APPLE.
Worried are we?
I would NEVER have expected Macrumors to overall applaud "the devil incarnate" Steve Balmer, and ''crappy" M$ products on stage with Steve Jobs!
And all of a sudden this means Ms + Apple vs Google?? LOL MS has got their own OS coming called Windows Phone 7.
So when they release, and it has features that people tout as better than iPhone.. its back to slating MS?? And MS are copycats, they can't innovate etc. Surely MS should be giving Jobs the finger for all their "Im a Mac ads".
I would NEVER have expected Macrumors to overall applaud "the devil incarnate" Steve Balmer, and ''crappy" M$ products on stage with Steve Jobs!
And all of a sudden this means Ms + Apple vs Google?? LOL MS has got their own OS coming called Windows Phone 7.
So when they release, and it has features that people tout as better than iPhone.. its back to slating MS?? And MS are copycats, they can't innovate etc. Surely MS should be giving Jobs the finger for all their "Im a Mac ads".
I don't think it would be a bombshell I imagine Office would incorporate printing at least. But I kind of like Office better than iWork. Apple is a creative company and is not good at business programs like iWork. Microsoft can't make a proper OS.
Sounds like we better start getting Anti-Virus running. Steam moved over, Auto Cad thats a huge one, and Visual Studio!!!! I may have to turn my firewall on.
The absolute multitude of hardware configurations that MS has got Windows running on is astounding.
Even with supporting a handful of laptops and ONE desktop, and selecting all the parts themselves and making the software themselves... Apple support forums to this day are full of threads with people complaining about bugs.
Lets see Apple open up OSX to support every crummy device/driver maker out there and see how they cope= not well at all.
Gates has already admitted as much.
At D7, when Jobs and Gates were asked what they admired most about the others company, Jobs said something like Microsofts ability to partner with others, and Gates said something like the way Apple brings culture to their products.
What did Google ever do to you?
Their privacy issue.... hell, lately it's everyone's privacy issue that bugs the hell outta me. I can see everyone thanking Google for Gmail, docs, wave etc... all the while giving all their info over to them. "Here's who I email, here are their address', their telephone numbers, a freaking picture, what I do for a living with the docs." I just don't like it. More and more I feel myself inching toward a MobileMe account. As long as it's $65/yr from Amazon I'll see it as a good deal. Esp when I add in more Apple mobile devices.
Bing Bing Bing
Office for iPad I doubt it at least for several years.
iApps in Visual Studio on PC quite possible. Apple can modify their terms of agreement if they wish.
Bing this might be interesting. Sure Bing is nowhere near Google is in terms of search, but this could be a way for Apple to get into search without getting into search. It would still be Microsofts product but heavily directed by Apple.
Office for iPad I doubt it at least for several years.
iApps in Visual Studio on PC quite possible. Apple can modify their terms of agreement if they wish.
Bing this might be interesting. Sure Bing is nowhere near Google is in terms of search, but this could be a way for Apple to get into search without getting into search. It would still be Microsofts product but heavily directed by Apple.
The mind of a fanboy
Posted by BR Lawyer yesterday (on news of Apple surpassing MS market cap):
Yesterday, 06:30 PM #8
BRLawyer
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So who's got the last laugh now, Winblows droids? Have you got enough crow? I have been saying this for a LONG time, that Apple would surpass MS SOONER than later!
So now is the perfect occasion for all MS fanboys to stop infesting this forum and spreading their FUD.
MS IS DEAD. AND SO IS GOOGLE.
Sent from my wonderful iPad!
P.s.: Tks for the news, Apple; today is my B-day..!
Wow
It would be GREAT to see SB on stage with SJ...if true, this is gonna be an incredibly intelligent move by Apple in terms of the potential developer community, especially NOW that MS is the soon-to-be-poor underdog; we need to give them a hand, guys
GOOGLE IS EVIL, don't forget that.
MS IS ALIVE. AND SO IS APPLE.
Posted by BR Lawyer yesterday (on news of Apple surpassing MS market cap):
Yesterday, 06:30 PM #8
BRLawyer
macrumors 68020
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Currently in Switzerland
So who's got the last laugh now, Winblows droids? Have you got enough crow? I have been saying this for a LONG time, that Apple would surpass MS SOONER than later!
So now is the perfect occasion for all MS fanboys to stop infesting this forum and spreading their FUD.
MS IS DEAD. AND SO IS GOOGLE.
Sent from my wonderful iPad!
P.s.: Tks for the news, Apple; today is my B-day..!
Wow
OWNED!Posted by BR Lawyer yesterday (on news of Apple surpassing MS market cap):
Yesterday, 06:30 PM #8
BRLawyer
macrumors 68020
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Currently in Switzerland
So who's got the last laugh now, Winblows droids? Have you got enough crow? I have been saying this for a LONG time, that Apple would surpass MS SOONER than later!
So now is the perfect occasion for all MS fanboys to stop infesting this forum and spreading their FUD.
MS IS DEAD. AND SO IS GOOGLE.
Sent from my wonderful iPad!
P.s.: Tks for the news, Apple; today is my B-day..!
Wow
How is saying they like how Apple brings culture (think he actually said style) to products, "pretty much admitting" they themselves have no taste and cant innovate?
I hope this is true. Although, I've already spent the dough to buy an intel mac book and a mac mini to run xcode. Shoulda waited a little while.
Culture, style, and taste are all fairly synonymous to me at least in this context.
As for cant innovate I ignored it, because its not entirely true.
I still say if there is any truth to this is will be for Silverlight apps in mobile Safari only and not for anything you can put into the app store so it you would still need a Mac for native development. BIG if on that though. I don't buy this rumor for a second. Although I hope it is true.
Intel and MS are upset that Dell and HP are breaking from being Wintel peons to push other products like WebOS, Linux and ARM.
Dell and HP are looking for higher margins and don't want to be simple rebranders. they are also upset that Intel and MS are courting Acer and other chineese makers who are willing to settle for ridiculously small net margins. Corporate services are where the profits are for Dell and HP. the PC's are given away for free like Coke does with its products in supermarkets.
everyone is also afraid of Google and their super duper return of time shared computing
So MS is courting Apple. If Dell and HP want to push ^nix, so does Microsoft. they already get a cut from every iphone, ipod touch, ipad and probably ever Mac sold.
Dell and HP are looking for higher margins and don't want to be simple rebranders. they are also upset that Intel and MS are courting Acer and other chineese makers who are willing to settle for ridiculously small net margins. Corporate services are where the profits are for Dell and HP. the PC's are given away for free like Coke does with its products in supermarkets.
everyone is also afraid of Google and their super duper return of time shared computing
So MS is courting Apple. If Dell and HP want to push ^nix, so does Microsoft. they already get a cut from every iphone, ipod touch, ipad and probably ever Mac sold.
I don't think it's silverlight either for all the same reasons it's not VS and they don't want Flash.
Apple is NOT bringing VS to the Mac or iPhone development to Windows. What would be their motivation? Is the app store short on apps right now? No. Would Apple port the .net runtime to the iPhone (most langs in the Windows world now compile to .net IL)? No, for the same reasons they don't want to let Adobe compiled apps on the iPhone - control. Apple is currently leveraging iPhone development into people buying more Macs. There is zero chance they are going to give up on that leverage.
Hmm well some would argue with that, style could be purely referring to the design (I think Gates also mentioned 'elegance').. culture and even taste can be seen as much broader.
Anyways saying you admire how someone does something isnt pretty much admitting you have none at all... I admire MJ's dancing =/= "pretty much" I have no skills at all.
And then you admit you ignored the rest of Jobs slating MS for lack of innovation...
microsoft's developer tools are a lot better and more mature than Apple's. they will let you write C code from VS so they won't lose any devs. all the middle tier environments are about saving developers money. Apple is crazy about taking that away since it will increase development time and financial risk and drive devs to android
So one of the languages in Visual Studio is C++ and I think you can compile C as well so I don't see how an announcement like this would break with the new iPhone Developer Agreement.
Microsoft said the following on Twitter:
Steve Ballmer not speaking at Apple Dev Conf. Nor appearing on Dancing with the Stars. Nor riding in the Belmont. Just FYI.
http://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/14850981422
Steve Ballmer not speaking at Apple Dev Conf. Nor appearing on Dancing with the Stars. Nor riding in the Belmont. Just FYI.
http://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/14850981422