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Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote?
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Not the best of examples ol' chap. Stepstone went out of business in 2002.
Really, Obj-C's reach beyond the Apple realm has been minimal indeed.
Well, then I predict Bing as a search choice or possibly default is a done deal.
I've heard it said, if you can' beat 'em join 'em.
I've heard it said, if you can' beat 'em join 'em.
Well, this would be one hell of a surprise if true. iPhones are selling very well indeed and the app store is massive. Neither really need that much of a boost. Although I like the idea of this I really can't see apple doing it... The iPhone doesn't need it and mac sales I think will suffer.. Sorry apple, but quite frankly VIsual Studio is a pretty decent dev environment and better than Xcode for a lot of things... I really don't think apple wants to go head to head on this... I think a lot of devs will just use visual studio (and pcs) instead. Xcode and mac sales (to some degree) I think will suffer...
It seems to just go against apples whole plan of using software to sell their hardware!
It seems to just go against apples whole plan of using software to sell their hardware!
If MS' Visual Studio used the gcc compiler it would be within the agreement. Aple only requires that you uese their compiler. All Visual studio does is create some code based on your use of a GUI then call a compiler. Could simply call gcc.
Microsoft does not make a good fit into Apple's business strategy to make money selling high-margin hardware to affluent consumers.
Plus, there are miscellaneous intangible obstacles like the integration of corporate culture. The two companies are very different.
As a shareholder of both companies, I'm not keen on seeing AAPL's value diluted by MSFT anyhow. Believe me, they are both profitable companies, but AAPL runs superbly. There's too much bureaucracy at MSFT, plus the leadership sucks (i.e., Ballmer).
Not much at this time. Maybe in five years, those lines will have changed a bit.
Ultimately, the three companies' primary businesses are in different arenas until they change their business models.
Google and Apple are probably butting heads the most, especially in the lucrative battlefield of mobile ads (AdMob vs. iAds).
This is silly. I just read the barrons article and it seems the writer doesn't even know who's doing the TechEd keynote.
"here’s the kicker: he thinks Microsoft’s presentation could be given by none other than Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. (Or if not, at least Bob Muglia, who runs Microsoft’s server and tools business.)"
Now if this guy really knew anything he would know Muglia is doing the TechEd keynote and it's not even possible for Muglia to be considered an alternative speaker.
Something doesn't add up here.
"here’s the kicker: he thinks Microsoft’s presentation could be given by none other than Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. (Or if not, at least Bob Muglia, who runs Microsoft’s server and tools business.)"
Now if this guy really knew anything he would know Muglia is doing the TechEd keynote and it's not even possible for Muglia to be considered an alternative speaker.
Something doesn't add up here.
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If this rumor is true, then I sure hope that he doesn't act like that, because he's acting like a complete lunatic in that clip.
Nope.
Visual Studio is a multi-language/multi-platform development environment. I assume Microsoft will add an Objective-C compiler with iPhone/iPad as two of the target environments. This satisfies the current requirements. The use of the Apple tools does require OSX, because that is part of the licensing terms for those tools. But any other solution that uses Objective-C source code and outputs compatible object code would fit the restrictions.
This prediction ranks among the silliest I have ever seen.
Apple likes to control their iPhone OS platform. Why would they let people code in VS and lose control? The Mac is an open platform however, so I guess Ballmer could let people develop for the Mac until their faces turn green. I don't see how that would make any money for Microsoft nor Apple. This doesn't have anything to do with the actual quality of VS as a development tool on the Windows side.
Ballmer is, for a lack of a better word, more "interesting" than the walking sleeping pill Roz Ho that used to come on stage a few years back. But he's too much of a circus clown to ever be part of a Stevenote. When hell freezes over maybe.
Apple likes to control their iPhone OS platform. Why would they let people code in VS and lose control? The Mac is an open platform however, so I guess Ballmer could let people develop for the Mac until their faces turn green. I don't see how that would make any money for Microsoft nor Apple. This doesn't have anything to do with the actual quality of VS as a development tool on the Windows side.
Ballmer is, for a lack of a better word, more "interesting" than the walking sleeping pill Roz Ho that used to come on stage a few years back. But he's too much of a circus clown to ever be part of a Stevenote. When hell freezes over maybe.
This would be unfathomably huge if it actually happened.
Bigger than anything in the tech industry in the last 10 years. Bigger than any iDevice Apple has ever released.
But why would it happen? It's in Microsoft's best interests to keep developers locked to Windows, and to push out a half assed Mac port of some of their software every 4 years to make a few bucks on that platform as well.
Bigger than anything in the tech industry in the last 10 years. Bigger than any iDevice Apple has ever released.
But why would it happen? It's in Microsoft's best interests to keep developers locked to Windows, and to push out a half assed Mac port of some of their software every 4 years to make a few bucks on that platform as well.
Apple is moving iPhone development away from gcc, and towards llvm plus clang (which are open source, but not under the GPL) for compiling C, ObjC & C++. Maybe Microsoft could adopt that alternate compiling back-end for Visual Studio? Then you could build Objective C apps on a PC. But what would be in this for Microsoft? Sounds too strange to me.
It's a developers conference... not an iPhone 4.0 event. The iPhone stuff just happen to always be announced at the WWDC. Notice the letters wwDC not World Wide iPhone Conference?
How is anyone supposed to begin coding if they can't write applications? What are they going to do, Console apps!?
If this rumor is indeed true, I highly doubt he will take up 7 minutes discussion VS changes. It will likely be either an announcement of Office 2011 for iPad or that the two companies have agreed to make Bing! the default search engine on OSX and iPhone OS.
My question is, I wonder how much longer Google Maps will be around on the iPhone. Doesn't both companies work on that app? It would be weird to see it replaced with Live! Maps or whatever it is MS runs.
My question is, I wonder how much longer Google Maps will be around on the iPhone. Doesn't both companies work on that app? It would be weird to see it replaced with Live! Maps or whatever it is MS runs.
I think its kinda cute....... I mean they are both called steve, they both represent computer companies that want to improve our lives..........
why dont we call them "the two steves" . It will be just like the good old days when apple was going to save the world..... !
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why dont we call them "the two steves" . It will be just like the good old days when apple was going to save the world..... !
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True, but ever since 2003, WWDC has become more of a consumer oriented conference when it comes to the keynote. The G5 came out in 03, and the iPhone has been announced each year following its initial introduction in 2007. The iPhone will be the main topic at this years event, especially if Apple releases it to the public that day, which I still don't believe will happen unless they order all Apple Stores to close at 4 and reopen at 6, which won't leak until later.
Imagine the madhouse nationwide if that actually happened though. At 3pm, we hear its going on sale at 6. Imagine the crowds rushing to the Apple Stores!