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Mid-Range 1.2 GHz Retina MacBook CPU Shows Nice Speed Boost Over Low-End Model
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Yea I use essentially no space so I'm either doing 1.1 or BTO a 1.3 but going to wait and see reviews on that first
Okay? So how fast is it now? 2012??? Still 3 years behind
Behind what? It's not meant to compete with a Mac Pro, and it probably isn't 3 years behind the needs of most people.
And yet this machine would completely and utterly smoke your 2001 pentium. if you don't know why you should not be commenting.
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...incidentally i played with the 1.1 in store. gorgeous machine without even the slightest bit of lag. I wasn't doing anything crazy intensive but don't plan on doing that anyway with this machine.
I like how you phrased your doubts without attacking people, so here's why I've ordered one to replace a 11" MBA:
1. I really do want the retina display. I've got one on my MBP, and everytime I look at the MBA, I wonder whether I'm in the early stages of cataract. (The MBA may either get upgraded to retina or discontinued one day, but there is no retina MBA now. So there's no point in comparing the MB to a theoretical MBA.)
2. I want 8 GB of RAM and the 512 GB SSD. Configuring a MBA with those takes it into the MB's pricing ballpark anyway. (EDIT: I've gone the OWC route for the SSD before. Let's just say that from now on, I'll stick with stock SSDs.)
By the way, I'm not afraid of getting a 1st-generation device. The last two 1st-generation devices I bought from Apple were the original iPhone and the original iPad. Both were rock solid, and they actually still work today.
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It's a late April fools No ?
This new machine is a joke, with modern day CPU's reaching even better speeds and multi core's I can't understand why Apple would put out this machine when there iPads are smoother and faster.
This new machine is a joke, with modern day CPU's reaching even better speeds and multi core's I can't understand why Apple would put out this machine when there iPads are smoother and faster.
Why the hate for this product ? It is obviously a gen 1 product and they can only use what Intel gives them. Wait 2 years and this thing will be the most sold Mac easily.
I won't buy this machine as it is right now. But I can see it fulfilling the need of the average consumer easily.
I won't buy this machine as it is right now. But I can see it fulfilling the need of the average consumer easily.
You obviously don't value size. I have a quad core 15" rMBP, and nearly anything I do can be done on the new Macbook. Sure, a few things may be a little slower, but the tiny size of the Macbook will more than make up for that, for me.
More horsepower isn't always the first metric to look at when buying a car, especially if you only drive 65 mph, tops.
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I heard a speed bump is coming to these -- in july .. better to wait
That seems hard to believe, considering some of the pre-orders aren't shipping for another month and a half.
He was talking about a MacBook Air... which has OS X... he was not talking about an iPad Air... those don't even come in 11" or 13"...
I think we found out why someone would buy the MacBook...
Right.
Sure, they'll put more ports into future models. Right after they put a SuperDrive and floppy drive back in!
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Not sure, but I would maybe say because tons of people want it and it will sell #$%@loads?
You are very value/cost sensitive. Lots of people aren't. I'm a Web Developer. I don't mind spending an extra 20% or whatever for the right laptop.
The 11in Air (which I've owned and loved) has a sub-optimal aspect-ratio for development. The rMB weighs a whole pound less than the 13in and has a significantly smaller form factor.
I can wait an extra 30 seconds for my code to compile. Would I like it to be faster? Definitely. But going from 60 seconds to 90 seconds a few times an hour isn't going to kill me.
For that trade I basically get an 11" MBA with a bigger screen, higher effective resolution, better aspect ratio, and a bit lighter (ports are a non-issue. Other than a Cinema-Display, I never plug anything into my laptops aside from a Projector, and I've always had to carry dongles for that in the past anyways).
What's not to love? Price? This is something I'm going to use most of the day for the next year or so. Compromising over saving a couple hundred dollars would be a mistake (for me).
Plus since I bought the 1st gen 11" MBA, and the original MBA, the 1.2GHz rMB is probably the cheapest laptop I've bought in years anyways by a few bucks.
Value is relative to you (if you think you get enough out of it for the cash you spend on it, it has value to you). What you consider enough is highly relative.
A company obviously can't sell everyone their perfect machine, so they sell a machine that covers "enough" of what a larger group of people value most. That's where segmentation of the market is important. What do these people value above all else : portability, build, quality, responsiveness, attention to detail, support, overall experience and brand. What tasks do they accomplish, mostly office and school work.
Now, Apple just has to build such a machine; it seems they have.
If they give these people the maximum in those areas, it will have enough value to them to pay extra to get it. That it doesn't respond to the needs of video editors, photoshop mavens or heavy coders doesn't matter... It is not a machine for them.
If Apple in fact doesn't give enough value for money to these people, it will show up in long term erosion of satisfaction and sales. The fact this hasn't happened tells us that they in fact are providing good value to their buyers.
I spent years carrying a 6lb thinkpad between clients in a major city. while also carrying my personal 15in macBook Pro. Before that I was caring around a 7-8lb laptop in college + books. I know all about having to carry a machine around.
Anyone that tells me that moving from 3.5 to 2lbs is a valid reason to drop 1,300 to get a slow machine is just trying to find a way to validate themselves, and more that likely should have saved the money and bought an Air to begin with as they clearly had no need for the power of a MacBook Pro.
I want to know how many MacBook buyers in 1 years time feel their machines CPU is to slow for them to run the next version of their applications and OS.
I just played with one in a store today, and noticed that it is a bit sluggish in Mission Control and a few other areas
I still do not understand why this echo of 2008 is coming back again. Learned nothing, have we?
Maybe 50%. Frankly if it wasn't for the single port the machine would certainly come closer to 70% but I suspect that you grossly underestimate the number of Mac users out there that actually use their machine for productive work.
Even as a college students PC, I'm of the opinion that it would only meet about 50% of that niches needs. Some course work simply requires different hardware. Plus it probably isn't a good idea to start college with early adopter hardware.
