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Millions of Facebook Records Exposed on Amazon Cloud Servers

jclo said:
Hey guys,

I've changed the title of the article here to make it clear that Facebook did not leak this data itself, and I'm sorry for any confusion over the previous title. I've also removed the password bit because it wasn't FB passwords that were leaked.
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well let me if I understand correctly, FB run out of space then they decide to use amazon server to storde their private data and now is amazon's fault, if they don't have enough space or storage in their own servers well simply stop people from making new memberships or subscriptions, also I see this as a trick made by FB so they can sell all the data to then say that it was stolen but hey it wasn't stolen from our server, so they use amazon to then put the blame on them, first you are not supposed to stored your clients data in any other server because what ever happens is your fault not the other company fault, FB you can lie to others but not to me, maybe they did this on purpose to then do this, this like the government, we just solved a problem, yes the same problem that you created, give me a break

maybe the ones that stole the data are the same hackers that FB hire to hack their own server
so they learn how to secure their servers by patching al those kind of hacks

once again the point is I don't trust FB at all nor don't like them either
 
No Cloud service is safe from disclosure of data. It doesn't matter which one. Any data kept on-line has inherent accessibility built-in almost by design. We know only a fraction of what really happens everyday. (i)Cloud is not Fort Knox and it never will be. After all humans run/control this stuff; humans with all bad habits and mistakes/deliberate actions you can imagine...

I stay as far from all that crap as possible. Yes, you can live without 'Cloud' very well.
 
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Sharing and more importantly, selling users data to 3rd parties has become very commonplace but is unregulated. Time and time again we read reports of companies being incompetent and/or negligent in dealing with users data. They either allow data to be made publicly available due to errors made by companies employee's or the companies security is so lackluster that it is open to getting hacked easily and it is the users who are the ones affected the most because the data is commonly used for identity theft.

Not every app, website or computer software wants to have access to our personal data/information but nearly every one of them does. Websites want to install 'cookies' so they can monitor you and grab your personal info. Computer software and mobile phone apps have it written in their Terms and Conditions that they will be sharing your data with their 'affiliates'. Our data is being traded around like it is confetti and no one in power really gives a damn.

Not every company/business needs to have access to personal data based on the product/service they provide but they do because they know they can and then they make a simple stipulation in their T&C's that this personal data will be shared with others and that you agree to it.

It is now about time the sharing and selling of users data became regulated. Basically what this would entail is that companies/businesses would have to justify wanting to share and/or sell our data to 3rd parties because at the moment they do not, all they have to do is comply with data privacy laws but these laws do not dictate who can have our data, they just dictate how it is handled.

Any company and/or business wanting to share/sell our data should send in a written request to a government oversight department. This department will then look at the request and decide if the request is justifiable or not. If it is, then they get given some government signed stamped of approval number to show others, basically us, the public/users that the company and/or business has a legitimate use to share/sell our data.

It should be the same as currently done with building planning applications, you send in your application basically saying why you want to build what your building, how your going to build it etc etc and it should be the same with companies and/or businesses wanting out data, they should send in an application saying why they want our data and what they plan to do with.
 
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talisto said:
I have no huge love for Facebook, but this article title is blatantly false. Facebook didn't expose millions of records on Amazon's cloud servers, one of their 3rd party partners did, and the article states that in the first line, so why is the title "Facebook Exposes Millions of Records on Amazon Cloud Servers"??

The article also craps on Facebook saying there's "apparently little oversight from Facebook", as if to imply that they'd somehow be able to stop these 3rd parties from mismanaging their data, but how could they possibly know what and where their data is being stored once it leaves their APIs? The company violated Facebook's T&C's, I'm not sure how they'd have the authority or ability to "audit" that.

EDIT: CNN's title for the same article is "Hundreds of millions of Facebook records exposed on Amazon cloud servers". That seems much more appropriate?
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Found the FaceBook employee!

Seriously though, they might as well have! You stop it by not selling it. If they’re selling data and have no way to police it then they have no business selling it, period, end of story, good day sir.
 
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well let me if I understand correctly, FB run out of space then they decide to use amazon server to storde their private data and now is amazon's fault, if they don't have enough space or storage in their own servers well simply stop people from making new memberships or subscriptions, also I see this as a trick made by FB so they can sell all the data to then say that it was stolen but hey it wasn't stolen from our server, so they use amazon to then put the blame on them, first you are not supposed to stored your clients data in any other server because what ever happens is your fault not the other company fault, FB you can lie to others but not to me, maybe they did this on purpose to then do this, this like the government, we just solved a problem, yes the same problem that you created, give me a break

maybe the ones that stole the data are the same hackers that FB hire to hack their own server
so they learn how to secure their servers by patching al those kind of hacks

once again the point is I don't trust FB at all nor don't like them either
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True, I wish I had never joined honestly but many family only use it and messenger to communicate.

Sadly even folks like yourself who have never used FB can still have a "shadow" profile as others have said on the thread. It's maddening.
 
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Tevos said:
No Cloud service is safe from disclosure of data. It doesn't matter which one. Any data kept on-line has inherent accessibility built-in almost by design. We know only a fraction of what really happens everyday. (i)Cloud is not Fort Knox and it never will be. After all humans run/control this stuff; humans with all bad habits and mistakes/deliberate actions you can imagine...

I stay as far from all that crap as possible. Yes, you can live without 'Cloud' very well.
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exactly, that's why is better to stored your personal and private data on an external drive that you don't even connect to your computer when you are online, but the problem is that FB users like to share their data with others, show pictures about themselves their kids, their cars and houses and talk about their personal life, the problem is that many others users might see that personal and private info, even if they are not in your friend list, I really don't know if you can make your page private and only allow the people you give permission to enter your page but since I don't use FB I really don't know what the deal is.

I think is better to just send a private email that only you and the other person see,
but is like FB users like to expose themselves, honestly FB users have no excuse and no justification
they know what's going on and they continue to use and defend FB, so they get exactly what they deserve.

I don't exist , I'm not even here
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Not sure what the "Amazon servers" has to do with this scandal? It's like saying the 3rd party used a Dell PC running Microsoft Windows 10 to upload the data via a Comcast cable modem and once remotely logged in using an Apple iPhone X using Mozilla's Firefox. LOL
 
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I been buying online over 20 years and I never had any credit card problem
I don't enter my real info in every web site, for purchases online I use paypal
so i only have to login to my PayPal account in order for me to buy something
instead of putting my real name credit card info and address in every web site

for web pages or services like facebook people should not use their real info
also just use one underground email address for FB
I wouldn't use my Apple ID, PayPal email to make a FB account
that is exactly the problem with people
I have an underground email address and I have my real email address that I use for purchases etc
is bad enough already if you use FB but is much worse if you expose yourself even more
because if you use your real info and FB or you account gets hack
then you know what is going to happen
sure you can delete your account but the damage might already been done

you guys actually think that just because you deleted your login credentials
FB really is going to get rid of your personal info, please
you deleted your account, you can't login but FB still have your info and they will sell it

if a person put a rope around their neck and hang themselves
you can't blame the person who sold you the rope
you can't blame the company that made the rope
the only one who is guilty is the person that made the decision to put the rope around their neck

all FB users and FB supporters are as guilty as FB itself

the government was doing fine when they had FB CEO in the hot chair
but like always they didn't do nothing about it or they didn't continue or follow up
maybe they paid someone a big amount of money
corruption at it's best

the government should shut down FB immediately, that is what I would do
but what can you expect from politicians

if you don't protect or defend yourself , no one is going to do it for you
 
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I would love for Facebook to be forced to put security warnings all over each page and then be forced to allow users to quit will all data removed.
 
C DM said:
Seems like there are others to be held accountable in this particular case.
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No. Facebook should maintain better control of data. Instead they allow it to be handed off to other 3rd parties which do not care. This is a repeated pattern. Ultimately it is up to them to maintain conditions, much as it falls to a clothing manufacturer to insure their stuff isn’t being made in sweat shops by childern somewhere.
 
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MadeTheSwitch said:
No. Facebook should maintain better control of data. Instead they allow it to be handed off to other 3rd parties which do not care. This is a repeated pattern. Ultimately it is up to them to maintain conditions, much as it falls to a clothing manufacturer to insure their stuff isn’t being made in sweat shops by childern somewhere.
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So you are saying those who got the data from them and then didn't take care of it properly aren't to be held responsible?
 
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So you are saying those who got the data from them and then didn't take care of it properly aren't to be held responsible?
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I don't believe anyone is suggesting letting these companies off the hook. People seem to be saying, there is a pattern of negligence with how Facebook handles our data. This is just one more example of that and it's time someone looked into that. I can't speak for everyone, but that's my take on it.
 
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I'm not so sure that's the case when it comes to all such replies.
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Thus my "I can't speak for everyone". Still, assuming best intent and all, I'd guess most people thought that even if it didn't come out that way. But that is absolutely a guess of course since unlike some posters, I can't read my peer's minds. :D
 
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So you are saying those who got the data from them and then didn't take care of it properly aren't to be held responsible?
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If I hand you my data, as many here handed their data to FaceBook, for safe keeping and you hand it to someone else without my permission well then yes I hold you responsible.
 
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