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Face ID too slow on current phones. Maybe it will improve. Needs to be seamless.

Even then, touch ID has advantages.
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Touch ID was great unless my fingers were wet... Face ID seems to just work for me in all situations. I miss having the home button more than I miss touch ID.

Honestly what I liked least about the Max was the lack of bezels. Bezels provide a place to hold that darn phone. Needed.

Got rid of the Max before the return period was up. Haven't missed it for a second. Plan to hold current phone for a couple more years.

More money in my pocket, not Apple's.
 
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I bought the iPhone XS Max in December, coming from a 7+ I miss my Touch ID, I hope they will incorporate it into the screen next generation because I prefer it to faceID which I personally have terrible luck with even after re-registration. Fingers Crossed.

Two things. Always register your face in GOOD LIGHTING. Very good lighting. Not indoor.

2nd. Remember to also register “Alternate Face ID”...but this time, with phone on your belly and you looking down on it. This way...you can unlock your phone with it sitting on table.
 
Two things. Always register your face in GOOD LIGHTING. Very good lighting. Not indoor.

I've heard this tip before, and I don't doubt that it works - but I'm having trouble understanding why. I thought FaceID relied on IR illumination of the subject's face (which is then detected by an IR camera). So, logically, I figure it shouldn't matter how much visible light is available. But, apparently I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure I've got some fundamental misunderstanding regarding how FaceID actually works.
 
TouchID isn’t dead. Apple just has to say that to get better buy in on Face ID. TouchID is on brand new currently shipping Mac models. It will also return (in addition to FaceID, not instead of) when it can be put under the screen. Count on it.
Do you have anything official from Apple to support your arguments?

Or is it all rumor (trusted source or not)?

I ask, because I question your statement that "Apple just has to say that". Do you have inside information that they are doing this?

Do you have proof that just because the new Mac models have 'TouchID' it is coming back to the iPhone?

I'm willing to eat my words and hand you my hat if you're right, but I'm not going to do that voluntarily unless you have some evidence coming from Apple itself.

PS. Not counting on it.
 
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You couldn't pay me to go back to Touch ID. Face ID is almost flawless for me. Touch ID on my 2016 iPad makes me retry fairly frequently.
 
Weird - I found TID 1 a bit hit and miss, but TID 2 is insanely fast and accurate in my experience... have you tried re registering your prints?
Yes I tried but it does not help much. I know problem source is mostly I, since my hands are pretty dry and cracked during dry winter season but for some reason even my iPhone 5s used to work better than my iPad 2018 with supposedly the same TID generation. Maybe my hands were in better shape back in the day I had 5s, dunno. iphone 7 was better anyway but still nowhere near reliable as Face ID is for me. I prefer Face ID, so far no complaints with that, I honestly do not miss Touch ID.
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Face ID too slow on current phones. Maybe it will improve. Needs to be seamless.
Slow and needs to improve? I don’t get how it could be any faster and I only have iPhone X, I mean if it is somehow even faster in XS and XR I have hard time to grasp even that. Because in my X i practically unlock and go to homescreen as fast as I can swipe up. I recently purchased Apple leather Folio Case (I basically used to hate these wallet cases but I finally decided to try one and those happened to be sold with nice discount) and it does wake up the screen when lid is opened (which is actually very cool feature). So I just did more tests with that and I’m still amazed with Face ID unlocking speed. I tried to open the lid as fast as I can and again swipe up immediate as fast as I can and I entered homescreen always immediately. I mean only delay was me opening the lid and swiping up, I just do not see how it could be any faster than that.

I think that maybe everyone has not realized that you do not need to wait for that lock icon to unlock, you can just swipe up the screen right away and I does open immediately saving some time.
 
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I was highly skeptical of Face ID but it works extremely well and very quickly on my XS. Anyone saying to the contrary is hating like I was.

My only qualm I have with Face ID, is when layin down, because what happens is your facial muscles is relaxed, and sometimes face ID has issues unlocking the device successfully, but where face ID is actually at its strongest, is in the dark, and I find it even more successful unlocking in the dark rather than in bright light, because the sensors are distracted by the light
 
I've got a non FaceID iPhone and I can tell you that I very often have to enter my passcode regardless of how many times I've re registered a fingerprint.
If the fingerprint sensor gets a little grimey:Fail
If my finger is the slightest bit moist: Fail
 
It’s just very odd because I have an iPad Pro with FACEID and it ALWAYS works. But not my max.
 
It’s just very odd because I have an iPad Pro with FACEID and it ALWAYS works. But not my max.

Right, we get that you’re having problems with Face ID, but why don’t you elaborate what issues are you having when it doesn’t unlock? [I.e, Is it when you’re laying down, is it intermittent or is it every single time you’re trying to unlock the iPhone? Is it in the dark or is it more in the light?]
 
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I like Face ID much better. If my fingers are a little wet, I don’t have to keep wiping them anymore to use Touch ID.

I just received a new XS Max on Tuesday, my first phone with FaceID. Came from a 7. It's only been two days, but I still catch myself reflexively wiping off my thumb after washing my hands, or briefly rubbing it on my shirt or pants before picking up the new phone. Old habits die hard, I guess.
 
I like Face ID much better. If my fingers are a little wet, I don’t have to keep wiping them anymore to use Touch ID.
OTOH, ultrasonic fingerprint readers (rather than optical like TID 1 & 2) would also be interfered with less through grime and moisture, so would be a further refinement and development of the tech making it even more reliable and convenient.
 
Iv dumped my max in a draw and gone back to my IP7+ I simply hate face I'd when I was using the max I found that half my unlocks was having to type my pass code in maybe it's just me but for now my max is collecting dust..
 
OTOH, ultrasonic fingerprint readers (rather than optical like TID 1 & 2) would also be interfered with less through grime and moisture, so would be a further refinement and development of the tech making it even more reliable and convenient.
Yes, good - but why would Apple go down that avenue?

The purpose of both FaceID and TouchID is to authenticate the user. There doesn’t need to be two solutions for this function in one device. You only need to read opinions here and elsewhere to see that the vast majority of people who have used both prefer FaceID. Apple are not going to invest in bringing a tech to future devices that merely duplicates an existing function.
 
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Yes, good - but why would Apple go down that avenue?

The purpose of both FaceID and TouchID is to authenticate the user. There doesn’t need to be two solutions for this function in one device. You only need to read opinions here and elsewhere to see that the vast majority of people who have used both prefer FaceID. Apple are not going to invest in bringing a tech to future devices that merely duplicates an existing function.

That's an exaggeration. Its more like 50-50. Even in my old vote post more people preferred Touch ID.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tch-display-poll.2094723/page-3#post-25775726

People forget that people are subjective. I would say the vast majority of people would prefer choice of which to use, and would be happy that Apple not take away the option. The only reason this topic keeps coming up is because they did.
 
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That's an exaggeration. Its more like 50-50. Even in my old vote post more people preferred Touch ID.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tch-display-poll.2094723/page-3#post-25775726

That poll doesn't support what you're saying. It wasn't FaceID vs TouchID, it was FaceID + Notch vs. TouchID without a notch. So you can't use those numbers to say more people prefer TouchID. People might prefer FaceID with no notch, but that wasn't an option. It's a useless poll if you're simply trying to determine people's preference for bio-metric authentication.
 
That poll doesn't support what you're saying. It wasn't FaceID vs TouchID, it was FaceID + Notch vs. TouchID without a notch. So you can't use those numbers to say more people prefer TouchID. People might prefer FaceID with no notch, but that wasn't an option. It's a useless poll if you're simply trying to determine people's preference for bio-metric authentication.

Maybe (time for a new updated poll?), but that doesn't take the fact that without evidence, a person can't just make a bold statement that the vast majority of people who have used both prefer one over the other. Just because you think it.
 
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Maybe (time for a new updated poll?), but that doesn't take the fact that without evidence, a person can't just make a bold statement that the vast majority of people who have used both prefer one over the other. Just because you think it.

Completely agreed. But after a year and a half of reading people's reactions to FaceID (this is NOT the only thread on the issue), one can begin to form a picture. It might not be as scientific as a poll, but don't kid yourself into thinking that a insignificant percent of Apple's total user base (i.e. MacRumors users) is going to give you accurate poll results either. Polls here might be accurate for this group of people, but not for the entire user base.

Not sure about the "Just because you think it" part as this is my first post in this thread. I've not been so bold as to declare what "most" users prefer.
 
Completely agreed. But after a year and a half of reading people's reactions to FaceID (this is NOT the only thread on the issue), one can begin to form a picture. It might not be as scientific as a poll, but don't kid yourself into thinking that a insignificant percent of Apple's total user base (i.e. MacRumors users) is going to give you accurate poll results either. Polls here might be accurate for this group of people, but not for the entire user base.

Not sure about the "Just because you think it" part as this is my first post in this thread. I've not been so bold as to declare what "most" users prefer.

Oh I agree, I know that polls here are insignificant percent of Apple's base. It was more of a fun poll. On the "Just because you think it" post, it wasn't directed at you, was because of the previous poster's broad statement.
 
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That's an exaggeration. Its more like 50-50. Even in my old vote post more people preferred Touch ID.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tch-display-poll.2094723/page-3#post-25775726

People forget that people are subjective. I would say the vast majority of people would prefer choice of which to use, and would be happy that Apple not take away the option. The only reason this topic keeps coming up is because they did.
You’re no more qualified to say it’s 50-50 than I am to say there’s a majority who prefer FaceID. But I’m happy to make a broad statement on that without supporting evidence based on the following observations.

- lack of complaints on this, and other, forums. If 50% of users wanted TouchID back as you claim, the debate would be fierce. Not the odd post in the odd thread.

- positive opinions about FaceID from users in my family, social circle and work colleagues. I haven’t heard a single complaint.

- not a single tech review that I’ve seen with a negative conclusion on FaceID. If it was as divisive as you say, every review would be highlighting that.

- all of the above being backed up by my own user experience.
 
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