iPhone XS Max Miss my touch ID

[HolyGrail]

You’re no more qualified to say it’s 50-50 than I am to say there’s a majority who prefer FaceID. But I’m happy to make a broad statement on that without supporting evidence based on the following observations.

- lack of complaints on this, and other, forums. If 50% of users wanted TouchID back as you claim, the debate would be fierce. Not the odd post in the odd thread.

- positive opinions about FaceID from users in my family, social circle and work colleagues. I haven’t heard a single complaint.

- not a single tech review that I’ve seen with a negative conclusion on FaceID. If it was as divisive as you say, every review would be highlighting that.

- all of the above being backed up by my own user experience.

On this forum and others I have seen complaints about both Touch and Face ID. Everything you stated is just what you said, " you're own user experience"...... and without evidence, that " vast majority of people" statement was just something you made up to discourage (Falhófnir's post) of talking about choice in apple products.

 

[craigio85]

On this forum and others I have seen complaints about both Touch and Face ID. Everything you stated is just what you said, " you're own user experience"...... and without evidence, that " vast majority of people" statement was just something you made up to discourage (Falhófnir's post) of talking about choice in apple products.

Yeah but that’s the point. I’m making an observation based on my own experience and the reports of others - not just making it up. I’ve seen plenty to indicate that my observation is correct. I’ve seen nothing to indicate that your own assertion of 50/50 split is accurate.

I’m not discouraging choice. I’m observing that there isn’t a need for choice on this particular issue for the reason I stated previously. TouchID in any guise has no purpose other than to replicate the functionality of FaceID.

 

[bushman4]

We never appreciate what we have until it’s not there anymore!

 

[44267547]

We never appreciate what we have until it’s not there anymore!

But the reality is, if somebody still wanted a smart phone with touch ID, they can still have it at any point. It’s not like you can’t find an iPhone anymore that doesn’t support touch ID, when the iPhone 8 shares the A11 bionic processor and will easily have three more years of iOS updates, so the choice is still there for those who want it.

 

[Gryfter]

Do you have anything official from Apple to support your arguments?

Or is it all rumor (trusted source or not)?

I ask, because I question your statement that "Apple just has to say that". Do you have inside information that they are doing this?

Do you have proof that just because the new Mac models have 'TouchID' it is coming back to the iPhone?

I'm willing to eat my words and hand you my hat if you're right, but I'm not going to do that voluntarily unless you have some evidence coming from Apple itself.

PS. Not counting on it.

Just speculation based on recent news:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/apple-acoustic-pulse-fingerprint-sensor-patent,news-29334.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...-price-cost-new-iphone-touch-id/#5c91b0b2c50b

https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...e-entire-iphone-display-in-the-works-at-apple

https://news.yahoo.com/apple-may-bring-touch-id-232400843.html

Truth is Apple did file a patent for the tech.

 

[Dino F]

I really don't understand all the hate for Face ID

Since owning my XS (my first Face ID iPhone), its SO much faster than Touch ID - as soon as I touch my display to wake it, the phone scans me and unlocks in less than a second.....

 

[puma1552]

TouchID isn’t dead. Apple just has to say that to get better buy in on Face ID. TouchID is on brand new currently shipping Mac models. It will also return (in addition to FaceID, not instead of) when it can be put under the screen. Count on it.

It won't return.

Comparing adding it to Macs vs. phones is a poor comparison. The Macs had no biometric security well after iPhones already did, so TouchID was the natural first step to add to Macs from a cost as well as progression standpoint. It's only a matter of time until the Macs have FaceID also.

 

[TheMadBrewer]

Face ID works really well for me on my iPadPro. On my Xs not so much. I'm probably at less than 50% on my first try.

And trying use ApplePay is much harder. It was so easy to just put your thumb on the sensor as you brought the phone to the terminal. When I traveling I sometimes carry my Pixel 2 just for payments.

 

[Reno Raines]

I have a XR but got a good deal on a 7 plus as I personally like Touch ID better too. I never had an issue with Face ID not working well or fast. Just a personal preference for me.

 

[lordofthereef]

I think in its current state I preferred Touch ID but not by some immense margin.

It's faster doing Apple Pay. I end up using my watch when I have it on because it's just much more seamless.

It doesn't work flat on a desk. For that matter, even in a dock/stand I have to angle my fast just right.

Unlocking in the car is a nuisance. I don't use my phone really when I drive but I can't even get into the music app because, mich like the issue on my desk, it won't see my face unless I'm looking at it just right.

It also doesn't work in landscape or upside down. I don't know that I'd ever "need" it to work upside down but landscape sure would be nice.

It is better in the winter when I have gloves on, for sure. It also works for my mom who has worn fingerprints and can't get Touch ID to work for her at all.

So I suppose it's give and take with each of these. Overall I'd choose Touch ID I think but I don't prefer it so strongly that I'd be gutted if they decided to not implement it for some reason.

 

[Ffosse]

I get confused by the button when I use my iPad and look forward to using face ID again

 

[G3Blue]

I went back to an iPhone 8 Plus from the X. Touch ID is so much better and this is a fact.

 

[0906742]

I really don't understand all the hate for Face ID

Since owning my XS (my first Face ID iPhone), its SO much faster than Touch ID - as soon as I touch my display to wake it, the phone scans me and unlocks in less than a second.....

Same here and mine is only X. If XS is even better than that (I cannot even see how it could work any better that it already does in X), I don't know what peoples are complaining about.

With Touch ID I had problems more or less all the time. My fingers were not just compatible with that and now after getting used to Face ID I want to throw to the wall my iPad 2018 every time I use it because TID rarely works (in my 7 it was better due to newer generation TID). I constantly need to wipe my finger to shirt if I just washed my hands and if my fingers are dry I need to breath on them for moisture. It seems fingers cannot be moist or dry, they have to be something between which mine never are.

 

[44267547]

I went back to an iPhone 8 Plus from the X. Touch ID is so much better and this is a fact.

It’s a fact for you, but for everyone else, obviously that will vary. I think both forms of biometric security have their advantages and disadvantages, for touch ID, it is very consistent, aside from wet/damp fingers, and face ID struggles when the user is laying down, [when their facial muscles are relaxed], it has somewhat difficulty unlocking the phone.

The way you need to look at this objectively, that both forms of biometrics will never be perfect, but you have to choose what works for you, but it doesn’t make it a fact, it makes it a preference.

 

[Cladster]

I find FID better on my Xr than my iPad 11", rarely fails, its only because you have the phone closer to your face, when iPad is on stand on desk it can fail and i have to move closer.

 

[smoking monkey]

I find that FID is superior when it's available to use for logging into Apps. It automatically logs in and I don't have to do anything, just be looking at the phone. That's quite handy.

As for opening the phone, FID is great if your hands are wet or you are wearing gloves.

Sometimes it's annoying that I got tilt my phone up off a table or the like, but overall I prefer Face ID. You can also swipe up before the phone IDs your face and will then open once it sees you. It may only be a split second, but had the system been one where you had to be looking first then swipe up, it would have been annoying.

Personally, I found I had to redo touchID after every extended beach visit.
It would be nice to have both though.

 

[bambooshots]

I’m the exact opposite.

Every time I pick up my 6s Plus I miss FaceID.

So much easier to use.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

People don’t like Face ID because it makes it 1000 times harder to text while driving.

There. I said it. Everything else is just nonsense

 

[bgro]

iphone x user here. Hate face id compared to touch id .Mainly due to speed. I can understand people who wear gloves or situations like that likeing face id but to me it's terrible. Also hate the apple app implementation of clicking the side button. Meh.

Been using a pixel 3 xl as my business phone and welcome the fingerprint sensor back.

 

[Cladster]

iphone x user here. Hate face id compared to touch id .Mainly due to speed. I can understand people who wear gloves or situations like that likeing face id but to me it's terrible. Also hate the apple app implementation of clicking the side button. Meh.

Been using a pixel 3 xl as my business phone and welcome the fingerprint sensor back.

I hated it on my X too. V2 is way better.

People don’t like Face ID because it makes it 1000 times harder to text while driving.

Exactly had someone say that to me last week, WTF they were 23 too, some people just don't get it.

 

[StarShot]

I bought the iPhone XS Max in December, coming from a 7+ I miss my Touch ID, I hope they will incorporate it into the screen next generation because I prefer it to faceID which I personally have terrible luck with even after re-registration. Fingers Crossed.

Mine works well, but if it doesn't, I'm up after a quick 4 digit tap.

 

[Superrjamz54]

Just speculation based on recent news:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/apple-acoustic-pulse-fingerprint-sensor-patent,news-29334.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...-price-cost-new-iphone-touch-id/#5c91b0b2c50b

https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...e-entire-iphone-display-in-the-works-at-apple

https://news.yahoo.com/apple-may-bring-touch-id-232400843.html

Truth is Apple did file a patent for the tech.

Apple files patents all the time. It doesn’t mean that they are going to use them soon or in the near future.

 

[nviz22]

Apple should give the choice between the two tbh. I love FaceID. TouchID was great in its hayday.

 

[MilleDav01]

Right, we get that you’re having problems with Face ID, but why don’t you elaborate what issues are you having when it doesn’t unlock? [I.e, Is it when you’re laying down, is it intermittent or is it every single time you’re trying to unlock the iPhone? Is it in the dark or is it more in the light?]

There is literally no reproducible action. I would say as time goes on I have to enter my password 80% of the time. I can have the phone exactly face framed and it still sometimes vibrates and makes me enter a passcode.

On the other hand, my iPad Pro 10.5 never has an issue recognizing me. It’s weird.

 

[Wide opeN]

I really don't understand all the hate for Face ID

Since owning my XS (my first Face ID iPhone), its SO much faster than Touch ID - as soon as I touch my display to wake it, the phone scans me and unlocks in less than a second.....

It's just nostalgia, and perhaps those that have never experienced Face ID

Admittedly, before I got my first X device in October, I too was of the mindset Touch ID was superior. What a fool I was, lol!!!

Face ID stomps all over Touch ID and I don't blame Apple for removing it along with the archaic home button. It simply works, no matter the situation; even with change in appearance, what I'm doing, or my favorite, even if it's dark.

It's time to let go... Face ID is dead!!!
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People don’t like Face ID because it makes it 1000 times harder to text while driving.

There. I said it. Everything else is just nonsense

I don't find this to be the case at all.