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Agreed. That's one of the things this Cardinals fan is grateful for, that the front office did what they had to on order to keep Yadier Molina until he retired.
It was a disappointment to see Pujols leave, but I'm glad he was able to reunite with them last year, and to be honest, they had a special season with both Molina and Pujols. I had the MLB package, so St. L was one of the teams that I tended to watch
 
It was a disappointment to see Pujols leave, but I'm glad he was able to reunite with them last year, and to be honest, they had a special season with both Molina and Pujols. I had the MLB package, so St. L was one of the teams that I tended to watch
The Cardinals got his best 10 years and his last one, so it worked out okay overall. But I agree that his leaving tarnished him in the minds of many Cardinals fans. The only question left for him is which hat he wears on his statue in The Hall. I'm 99% sure he'll go in a Cardinal.

(Edited for bad spelling)
 
Some crazy deals being made no doubt. But 1) that's what the market will bear, 2) the years better suit the luxury tax, and 3) the people who make these deals may not be around during the later stages of the term.
 
Wow, Giants lose Correa on difference of opinion over results of physical, and he goes to the Mets instead. Sorry @pachyderm. But maybe they dodged a bullet there?
WHAT!?!?



wow... maybe we did @TechRunner ...
 
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Wow, Giants lose Correa on difference of opinion over results of physical, and he goes to the Mets instead. Sorry @pachyderm. But maybe they dodged a bullet there?
Wow, I saw this earlier. I think in this case the giants are the losers and not the one dodging a bullet. You don't offer someone a 315 million dollar contract after another team questions the result of an undisclosed medical condition. I mean they offered him 350 million, so they believed he was going to be a significant player on their team. The mets are not going to offer close to that if he had a serious issue, well actually it is the Mets we're talking about :oops:
 
Yeah, I'm shocked about Correa. Maybe the Giants dodged a bullet, maybe something else happened. No matter how you spin it, things look bad for the Giants organization. Signing Correa was not going to solve all the problems on the roster, but San Francisco's appeal as a free agent destination has only been reconfirmed as being very, very low for myriad reasons: it's too cold, too far away from players' preferred home bases in the south or Arizona, California taxes are too high (apparently not a problem for the Dodgers or Padres). The city of San Francisco itself may also have a poor reputation amongst players (though there've been a number of high profile examples of skeptical players who arrived via trade and totally embraced the City).

Given these realities, and given the nature of their recent championship teams — home-grown core supplemented by savvy trades and second-chance, lower tier free agents — the Giants need to get serious about fully embracing a total rebuild. They tried to play it down the middle during Farhan Zaidi's tenure, but aside from one 107 win season, it hasn't really worked out, and the farm system has regressed over the past couple of seasons. Ownership needs to bite the bullet and start over from scratch, and really focus on getting better at player development. Fans need to accept reality and be patient.

I also don't think this is a great deal for the Mets. Correa's bat loses a lot of value at third base IMO, and I guess we'll see how the injury situation plays out.
 
wrote this passage to a twitter friend about Correa, south:

Oh good,
another $$$$$ thirdbasemens!
they should get paid less now,
due to no more shift,
less work!
 
wrote this passage to a twitter friend about Correa, south:

Oh good,
another $$$$$ thirdbasemens!
they should get paid less now,
due to no more shift,

less work!

Almost a haiku! Or maybe a limerick.

I was amused to see most of the Mets fans' reactions to the signing were similarly negative.
 
Yeah, I'm shocked about Correa. Maybe the Giants dodged a bullet, maybe something else happened. No matter how you spin it, things look bad for the Giants organization. Signing Correa was not going to solve all the problems on the roster, but San Francisco's appeal as a free agent destination has only been reconfirmed as being very, very low for myriad reasons: it's too cold, too far away from players' preferred home bases in the south or Arizona, California taxes are too high (apparently not a problem for the Dodgers or Padres). The city of San Francisco itself may also have a poor reputation amongst players (though there've been a number of high profile examples of skeptical players who arrived via trade and totally embraced the City).

Given these realities, and given the nature of their recent championship teams — home-grown core supplemented by savvy trades and second-chance, lower tier free agents — the Giants need to get serious about fully embracing a total rebuild. They tried to play it down the middle during Farhan Zaidi's tenure, but aside from one 107 win season, it hasn't really worked out, and the farm system has regressed over the past couple of seasons. Ownership needs to bite the bullet and start over from scratch, and really focus on getting better at player development. Fans need to accept reality and be patient.

I also don't think this is a great deal for the Mets. Correa's bat loses a lot of value at third base IMO, and I guess we'll see how the injury situation plays out.

Giants have to figure out why players are eschewing them.

Perhaps it's because this ain't the Magowan Giants. Or even the Neukom Giants. It's the Johnson Giants.

Granted that's still a long way from something like the Fisher A's, but whatever it may be, the track record of the GM, and team Prez suggests it's not them.

On Correa's part, a story on ESPN suggested he approached this new deal like a "marriage," for the rest of his baseball "life."

What does it say of a person's character, to flee the "altar" so quickly? Never mind his involvement with the Astros, which caused the Dodgers, who will not shy away from talent of any kind, to treat him as an untouchable?

Posey he's not, if we're talking about a franchise player who serves as the face of the team.

The truth will be revealed, and it remains to be see if the Mets got a sweet, clean cherry convertible, or a clunker.

As I said before, build from within, with your farm system. It's hard, but satisfying.

If one or two players were the silver bullet on an otherwise crappy team, the Angels would have multiple titles by now, with Ohtani and a healthy Trout. But it's a team game, and they don't.

And never count on anything with Boras as agent.
 
The more I read about the Correa timeline, the worse the Giants look.

Correa was more than happy to sign with the Giants. He and his family decamped to a 5-star hotel in downtown SF and were all ready to go. Someone up in Giants' ownership got cold feet and instructed their team to find something in the medical history to flag, and then make some vague statement to Boras and wait for him to go make another deal.

If that's the case, the call was made above Zaidi's level — maybe from Charles Johnson himself, a plutocratic billionaire raking in money hand over fist from Giants-related real estate development who decided to cheap out for whatever reason, completely misreading the marketplace for top baseball talent.

Also pretty damning that they didn't communicate at all with Brandon Crawford about their plan to move him off shortstop, and yet Correa was more than willing to switch to third base for the Mets.

Giants management has really blown their credibility with players, agents, and other organizations. This will have negative impacts for years to come.

But I guess they're not too scared of injured players, now that they're signing Michael Comforto. 🤷
 
The more I read about the Correa timeline, the worse the Giants look.

Correa was more than happy to sign with the Giants. He and his family decamped to a 5-star hotel in downtown SF and were all ready to go. Someone up in Giants' ownership got cold feet and instructed their team to find something in the medical history to flag, and then make some vague statement to Boras and wait for him to go make another deal.

If that's the case, the call was made above Zaidi's level — maybe from Charles Johnson himself, a plutocratic billionaire raking in money hand over fist from Giants-related real estate development who decided to cheap out for whatever reason, completely misreading the marketplace for top baseball talent.

Also pretty damning that they didn't communicate at all with Brandon Crawford about their plan to move him off shortstop, and yet Correa was more than willing to switch to third base for the Mets.

Giants management has really blown their credibility with players, agents, and other organizations. This will have negative impacts for years to come.

But I guess they're not too scared of injured players, now that they're signing Michael Comforto. 🤷

The Dodgers are thankful.
 
The more I read about the Correa timeline, the worse the Giants look.

Correa was more than happy to sign with the Giants. He and his family decamped to a 5-star hotel in downtown SF and were all ready to go. Someone up in Giants' ownership got cold feet and instructed their team to find something in the medical history to flag, and then make some vague statement to Boras and wait for him to go make another deal.

If that's the case, the call was made above Zaidi's level — maybe from Charles Johnson himself, a plutocratic billionaire raking in money hand over fist from Giants-related real estate development who decided to cheap out for whatever reason, completely misreading the marketplace for top baseball talent.

Also pretty damning that they didn't communicate at all with Brandon Crawford about their plan to move him off shortstop, and yet Correa was more than willing to switch to third base for the Mets.

Giants management has really blown their credibility with players, agents, and other organizations. This will have negative impacts for years to come.

But I guess they're not too scared of injured players, now that they're signing Michael Comforto. 🤷

It's a debacle, all around.

The team muffed it, for reasons that will eventually come out.

Boras took advantage, which is his job, but one might think that negotiating such big money, long term deals should, and could, deserve more due consideration than flipping inside less than a day. Normal folk might agonize over different job offers, and the work conditions, but it's really all about money. Signing day and the transfer portal in college football shows that it starts early, and not just in the upper strata of established professionals.

The Dodgers, and the rest of the teams, have also been served notice. The Mets' new owner is the richest of all of them, and hasn't been afraid to commit $800M to his payroll. The LA's and NY's and other big market teams can keep up, but it's not a welcome development for the smaller market owners. "Unprecedented" has been uttered a lot in the past couple days.
 
Yeah, I'm shocked about Correa. Maybe the Giants dodged a bullet, maybe something else happened. No matter how you spin it, things look bad for the Giants organization. Signing Correa was not going to solve all the problems on the roster, but San Francisco's appeal as a free agent destination has only been reconfirmed as being very, very low for myriad reasons: it's too cold, too far away from players' preferred home bases in the south or Arizona, California taxes are too high (apparently not a problem for the Dodgers or Padres). The city of San Francisco itself may also have a poor reputation amongst players (though there've been a number of high profile examples of skeptical players who arrived via trade and totally embraced the City).

Given these realities, and given the nature of their recent championship teams — home-grown core supplemented by savvy trades and second-chance, lower tier free agents — the Giants need to get serious about fully embracing a total rebuild. They tried to play it down the middle during Farhan Zaidi's tenure, but aside from one 107 win season, it hasn't really worked out, and the farm system has regressed over the past couple of seasons. Ownership needs to bite the bullet and start over from scratch, and really focus on getting better at player development. Fans need to accept reality and be patient.

I also don't think this is a great deal for the Mets. Correa's bat loses a lot of value at third base IMO, and I guess we'll see how the injury situation plays out.
Yeah they've left me underwhelmed for sure...
 
The more I read about the Correa timeline, the worse the Giants look.
Yeah, talk about egg on your face
Report: SF Giants did not follow up with Carlos Correa after physical

"Scott Boras tells me that after the Giants cancelled their press conference yesterday, they indicated they still wanted to negotiate about Correa," tweeted San Francisco Chronicle Giants beat writer Susan Slusser. "But he didn’t hear anything more from them. Twelve hours later, the Mets deal got worked out."

I don't know what that physical issue was, but its clearly something that the Mets were not concerned about. The lack of follow up my the giants opened the door. Unless it was something major, like surgery, they shouldn't have even tried to renegotiate and and just tell Boras that they're signing him. Of all agents to jerk around, you don't want to mess with Boras.
 
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