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MLB Hotstove 08

fotografica said:
Now that's really tearing it down and building it back up....Hope their farm system can sustain the rebuilding....
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Well they lost what..92 games was it?..with a $95 million payroll. I'd rather stick the kids in there, let them lose now and see if the pieces are there or not.

I don't know about Ripken, he is involved to a point but he keeps his distance with Angelos.

Would I like to see Angelos gone? Of course, but he isn't really the problem.

The problem is overpaying aging people with fading talent and no stability at manager.
 
Sobe said:
Tough question, a lot of that will depend on where the FA pitching goes and who is left without pitching they think they need.

If I'm the Orioles, I offer tejada hard for lincecum.
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And if I'm Brian Sabean I refer you to a shrink who specializes in dealing with delusional thinking. Lincecum and Cain should be untouchable.
 
Somebody should refer Sammy to a shrink as well:
Sosa wants to return to majors, but seeks $7 million contract

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic -- Sammy Sosa wants to play in the majors next year, provided a team offers him a contract for at least $7 million.

Sosa hit 21 home runs with 92 RBIs this season with Texas. He sat out in 2006, the Rangers gave him a $500,000, one-year contract, and he made $1.35 million more in performance bonuses.

"I feel victorious, and I think I proved that I have what it takes to stay in the major leagues," he said at a news conference.

The 38-year-old outfielder said he expects several offers next week when teams begin negotiations with free agents. Sosa had recently said he wanted to be back with Texas next year.

Sosa finished the year with 609 home runs. He was the fifth player to reach 600, joining Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth and Willie Mays.

"If they let me, I will reach 700," he said.

Sosa did not see a lot of action after the All-Star game.

"It was devastating when manager Ron Washington called me into his office and told me they were going to cut back my playing time," he said. "My reaction was to go home and quit."

Sosa finished with a .252 average in 114 games, including 87 starts as a designated hitter.
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fotografica said:
Somebody should refer Sammy to a shrink as well:
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Sosa's still useful. As a RH compliment to, say, a guy like David Dellucci he could put up some nice numbers.

He still kills left handed pitching:

2007:

vs. LHP: 119 AB, 7 HR, 37 RBI, .328 AVG, .410 OBP, 1.024 OPS.

His days as an everyday player, however, are over and $7 million per is probably $3-4 million too high.
 
A-Rod is not coming cheap.
Before Alex Rodriguez opted out of his contract with the Yankees earlier this week, the team was told that it would not be able to meet with the third baseman unless it presented an offer of at least $350 million, sources say.

The Yankees had hoped to meet with Rodriguez this week, and would have presented him with an extension offer close to five years and $150 million, to begin at the conclusion of his 2008-2010 contract, through which he would have earned $81 million. Through the Yankees' proposal, then, Rodriguez would have made about $230 million over eight years, and during the last five years of the contract, sources say, he would have earned the highest annual salary in Major League Baseball history.
But team executives were told, sources say, that in order to arrange a meeting with Rodriguez, they would have to be prepared to make an extension offer that would take the third baseman's deal up to a total value of $350 million. That means that the offer the Yankees intended to propose would have been more than $100 million short.
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Will any team pay him 350 million.
 
MacNut said:
A-Rod is not coming cheap. Will any team pay him 350 million.
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I think Boras may have overreached. I find it hard to believe any team will agree to the length of contract I've heard floated (10 years for a 32 year old player?) I can see 30 plus million per year, but anything past six years is a hell of a risk. Seven or eight years is daredevil GMing, and 10 years is lunacy.
 
Sayhey said:
I think Boras may have overreached. I find it hard to believe any team will agree to the length of contract I've heard floated (10 years for a 32 year old player?) I can see 30 plus million per year, but anything past six years is a hell of a risk. Seven or eight years is daredevil GMing, and 10 years is lunacy.
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What happens if A-Rod is not happy with his new team in 4 years, will he have another opt out clause if the team tanks or he wants out. I think A-Rod needs to grow a pair and tell Boras what he wants to do with his career.
 
MacNut said:
What happens if A-Rod is not happy with his new team in 4 years, will he have another opt out clause if the team tanks or he wants out. I think A-Rod needs to grow a pair and tell Boras what he wants to do with his career.
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Are you bitter, MacNut? Just a tad? Could it be that someone didn't see being a Yankee as the same great honor as you do?

If ARod gets another opt out clause in his contract, he has one damn good agent representing him. I'd push for a Team buyout clause around year six, but I can't believe Boras would accept that.

Personally, what I'd like to see is ARod sign with the Giants for 6-8 years, or, barring that unlikely event, he signs with the Dodgers for 10 and promptly gets hurt. :eek:

With the Giants' luck it will be 10 years with the Giants with 7 of them on the disabled list. :(
 
Another new one for today:

Crede For Damon Picking Up Steam

This thing is gaining traction. Buster Olney comments on the idea of a Joe Crede for Johnny Damon swap this morning:

Makes sense in a lot of ways: The Yankees would get the veteran third baseman they need without committing themselves to big dollars, shed Damon's salary, and the White Sox would solve their third base logjam while adding a center fielder for much less than what the free agent center fielders will get (Damon is owed about $26 million over the next two seasons, and presumably, the Yankees would eat some of that to make a deal happen).
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MacNut said:
What will A-Rod do in Florida, can the Marlins afford him and everyone else, the only thought is that he can help get a new stadium. Otherwise I see no reason for the Marlins to get involved in the A-Rod sweepstakes.
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One of the LA Times sports columnists suggested last week that Florida could pay him from the luxury tax money they will collect this season -- which happens to be almost exactly $30 million. The point being that Rodriquez could sign almost anywhere, and we might well be surprised by where he ends up.

If it's true, I also think Boras is overreaching with the ten year deal. In fact I think his client might be better served with a two or three year contract. The value of free agents is constantly climbing, and Rodriquez is only going to become more valuable as he closes in on the home run record. Baring injuries, of course.
 
Sayhey said:
Are you bitter, MacNut? Just a tad? Could it be that someone didn't see being a Yankee as the same great honor as you do?

If ARod gets another opt out clause in his contract, he has one damn good agent representing him. I'd push for a Team buyout clause around year six, but I can't believe Boras would accept that.

Personally, what I'd like to see is ARod sign with the Giants for 6-8 years, or, barring that unlikely event, he signs with the Dodgers for 10 and promptly gets hurt. :eek:

With the Giants' luck it will be 10 years with the Giants with 7 of them on the disabled list. :(
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A-Rod never liked it in NY no matter what he says, if he truly wanted to be in NY he would of sat down with the Yankees and worked out a deal and he would of told Boras to shove it. The fact is that A-Rod does not have a mind of his own and has done what ever Boras tells him to do. The Texas deal should not of happened in the first place but A-Rod went where the money was not where should A-Rod have the best chance to win. Is he a great player yes but he also lets his ego get in the way the same way that Bonds does. I think A-Rod is a better player then Bonds but they both seem to think they are bigger then the game and everyone around them. The problem is that A-Rod wanted to be Derek Jeter exept the Yankees already had him. If A-Rod wants to win a championship that really narrows down the number of teams he can go to.
 
IJ Reilly said:
I think Scott Boras believes he's bigger than the game, but that's just me.

He gets his clients the money, that's for sure.
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He gets them money put does he get them the best team.

I think Boras likes his commission checks more then his players best interest.
 
MacNut said:
He gets them money put does he get them the best team.

I think Boras likes his commission checks more then his players best interest.
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I think you're assuming that players are prepared to exchange money for the opportunity to play for a winning ball club. Some might, but not many. I hope that's not too disillusioning. I imagine that most players realize that if they sign with Texas or Florida that their chances of a World Series ring are pretty darned small. If that hurts any, then they can rub some money on it and the pain goes away.
 
IJ Reilly said:
I think you're assuming that players are prepared to exchange money for the opportunity to play for a winning ball club. Some might, but not many. I hope that's not too disillusioning. I imagine that most players realize that if they sign with Texas or Florida that their chances of a World Series ring are pretty darned small. If that hurts any, then they can rub some money on it and the pain goes away.
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I think A-Rod wants a ring while Boras wants the biggest contract. A-Rod will never be happy until he tells Boras what he wants not the other way around. A lot of people say that A-Rod is on a leash and Boras is the one tugging.
 
MacNut said:
I think A-Rod wants a ring while Boras wants the biggest contract.
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I don't know why you think both of them don't want the biggest possible contract. It would be the normal thing. We see players sign with hopeless teams all the time for a few extra bucks.
 
MacNut said:
He gets them money put does he get them the best team.

I think Boras likes his commission checks more then his players best interest.
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Isn't that the goal of any agent?Get the most $$$ for his client?Not to mention the fact that even if A Rod wanted to take the lesser contract for a shot at a ring,there's no way the Player's Assoc would allow him to take the lesser contract..
I think it's time the teams/owners show some balls and not give into Boras...
 
fotografica said:
Isn't that the goal of any agent?Get the most $$$ for his client?Not to mention the fact that even if A Rod wanted to take the lesser contract for a shot at a ring,there's no way the Player's Assoc would allow him to take the lesser contract..
I think it's time the teams/owners show some balls and not give into Boras...
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I think Boras wants the money for himself and uses the player to get it. How much of a cut does Boras get on a contract.
 
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