Even tho the Cy Young is a more coveted award.
Than a World Series ring? I'm sorry, I don't agree with that......
I bet Sabathia would trade the Cy Young for Becket's WS win.
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Than a World Series ring? I'm sorry, I don't agree with that......
I bet Sabathia would trade the Cy Young for Becket's WS win.
Pitchers are recognized in history more for the Cy Young then an MVP award. It is an easier feat to win a World Series ring then a Cy Young.
In the end Beckett will be remembered as one of, if not the, best postseason pitchers of all time.
Oh, and I'd say something that you win yourself is more valuable than something that a bunch of retarded sportswriters vote on.
exactly. example, usc two time ap poll champions. i don't listen to the dorky ap polls or awards, it's illegitimate since it's based on who gets the most media hype. i think this started to turn on me when dontrelle won the ap rookie award when ponds won almost every other rookie award that year and dontrelle's win was mostly based on hype. this is also why i think players and managers and such should be involved in the hof voting process, because right now, it's based on who the media likes instead of their whole body of work.
btw, cc won the players award as well. so the ap is 3 for 3 this year.
Does the illegitimacy start when you don't like the team? Or just when your team comes up short? Polls are how every college football championship was decided until about ten years ago, so does that mean all of those title teams are illegitimate?
One could argue about why the AP poll is still relevant in the BCS era, but in USC's case, they were screwed out of a BCS title game appearance one year. Oregon and Auburn got gipped in other seasons. Until they implement a playoff system, the debate will go on.
The problem with that is that the players and managers would just vote for people they really like. This is what often happens in the Gold Glove choices, where a lot of players win year after year based on how good they were a few years ago. I think it would be more interesting if we could see the vote breakdown for GGs like with MVPs. Then we could have some idea about who was even competitive in their eyes.
C.C. Sabathia:
34 GS, 19 W, 7 L, 3.21 ERA, 209 K, 1.14 WHIP
Josh Beckett:
30 GS, 20 W, 7 L, 3.27 ERA, 194 K, 1.14 WHIP.
I'd flip a coin personally. CC had more starts so give it to him.
If were going by best pitcher in the fewest starts, Erik Bedard would win anyway:
Erik Bedard:
28 GS, 13 W, 5 L, 221 K, 1.09 WHIP.
And that's for a team that lost 93 games.
No question he was the best pitcher in the AL this year...just didn't stay healthy long enough.
And let's not forget that Beckett and CC both benefitted greatly from not having to pitch against their own teams.
How much did Bedard's numbers benefit from not pitching against the O's? Not much.
34 GS, 19 W, 7 L, 3.21 ERA, 209 K, 1.14 WHIP
Josh Beckett:
30 GS, 20 W, 7 L, 3.27 ERA, 194 K, 1.14 WHIP.
I'd flip a coin personally. CC had more starts so give it to him.
If were going by best pitcher in the fewest starts, Erik Bedard would win anyway:
Erik Bedard:
28 GS, 13 W, 5 L, 221 K, 1.09 WHIP.
And that's for a team that lost 93 games.
No question he was the best pitcher in the AL this year...just didn't stay healthy long enough.
And let's not forget that Beckett and CC both benefitted greatly from not having to pitch against their own teams.
How much did Bedard's numbers benefit from not pitching against the O's? Not much.
red sox vs. a's in japan to start 2008
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-redsox-athleticsjapan&prov=ap&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-redsox-athleticsjapan&prov=ap&type=lgns
An obviously ridiculous exchange. Any one of these players could be as valuable as Cabrera in a couple of years. Some of them arguably are already. If this is true, the Marlin's front office is certifiable.
Here are my thoughts on A-Rod, as a Yankee fan I am split. Is he a great player, yes. Would he help anyones team, yes. But he costs to much and he is unpredictable. But I also don't want to have to give up young talent to get a 3rd baseman, Lowell is to old to get 4 years. Does A-Rod want to be a Yankee or does he know he can't get the huge contract anywhere.
Regarding Rodriguez--whatever. I still believe the Yankees are better off without him--the lack of drama cannot be underrated, and the Yankees are perfectly capable of not winning the World Series with or without him. Better to take the money and build the farm system, to increase their depth, and, heaven forbid, perhaps even bank some in reserves.
There is no denying his talent, but he has been ineffective when it mattered most. Jeter at least has four WS rings, and was an integral part in winning all of them. I just think the last thing the Yankees need is a moody prima donna, regardless of talent.
There is no denying his talent, but he has been ineffective when it mattered most. Jeter at least has four WS rings, and was an integral part in winning all of them. I just think the last thing the Yankees need is a moody prima donna, regardless of talent.
ESPN is reporting that Boras has not been involved in these discussions. I bet his head is exploding right about now.
I don't think there is any rule. A Player can talk to what ever team he wants. All the agent does is get the best deal for a player.
I would say that it is entirely up to the player. If a player wants to talk to a team without his agent, then I'm sure he can. They could agree terms, and then he can tell his agent to sort it out at those agreed terms. Or, the player can always tell the team to deal with his agent and not him.
From what I am reading, it sounds like A-Rod approached the Yankees.
If only it were that simple. If it were just a question of wanting to be a Yankee, then it would be an easy yes, if only for contract and contender status.
But it's not just about that. He'd be returning to the New York media hovering over his every move, bashing every double play he grounds into, following his wife around, hearing how Jeter matters more to the team, getting heckled by the same fans who were cheering when he put the team on his back last spring, and dealing with a Steinbrenner family that's been acting like they don't need him for the last couple years. That's a lot of crap to put up with. I'm not saying that everyone should behave, just that it is what it is, and all of that goes with being Rodriguez the Yankee. Rodriguez has to decide how much money would pay for that much drama. Torre got tired of it and didn't feel like it was worth it, so we'll see.
I'm not in the least bit surprised that the Yankees are talking to him though. They need his hitting, they can pay him more than other teams can, and he already lives in New York. As for Boras not being there, I think it's a non-issue. He can send one of his deputies to make sure Rodriguez doesn't agree to something crazy.
I agree with everything you wrote except the above--I cannot see Boras' ego allowing a deputy to handle anything public about Rodriguez.
Has anything they discussed without Boras there become public? I haven't heard any real details about any of it. If it's a matter of Boras' ego getting in the way of a bigger contract, Boras might be willing to take a back seat. None of us really knows how this guy works face-to-face anyway. We only know what we hear the news media say about him.
If A-Rod does end up going back to the Yanks without Boras, I'll applaud him for these reasons:
1. I hate Scott Boras. He's an ******* and always thinks his players deserve ridiculously overpriced contracts. It would be even better if A-Rod just came out and said he fired Boras.
2. It shows A-Rod isn't a completely greedy whore.
3. It guarantees the Yankees won't win in October for the next 10 years.
1. I hate Scott Boras. He's an ******* and always thinks his players deserve ridiculously overpriced contracts. It would be even better if A-Rod just came out and said he fired Boras.
2. It shows A-Rod isn't a completely greedy whore.
3. It guarantees the Yankees won't win in October for the next 10 years.
If A-Rod does end up going back to the Yanks without Boras, I'll applaud him for these reasons:
1. I hate Scott Boras. He's an ******* and always thinks his players deserve ridiculously overpriced contracts. It would be even better if A-Rod just came out and said he fired Boras.
2. It shows A-Rod isn't a completely greedy whore.
3. It guarantees the Yankees won't win in October for the next 10 years.
I have no problems with players asking what they're worth, but look at what Boras has done. I'm a White Sox fan, and I'm upset because our 3rd baseman (Joe Crede) is a Boras client. I love Crede as a player, he came up through our system and all. But, Boras told him to not negotiate and try the market. We tried to offer him a good deal, but we know he'll end up walking.
I'm a fan of economics, but greed is a powerful thing.