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MLB Hotstove 08

The Yankees will be in violation of baseball's collective-bargaining agreement if they exclude agent Scott Boras from their negotiations with his client, Alex Rodriguez.

"That clearly is a violation of the Basic Agreement," Michael Weiner, the general counsel of the players' union, told FOXSports.com on Wednesday.

"Once a player designates an agent, a club cannot refuse to meet with that agent."

Rodriguez, a free agent, is again discussing a contract with the Yankees, according to the New York Daily News. The team wants to bypass Boras in the negotiations, the Daily News says.

"We will not negotiate with Scott Boras," a Yankees source told the paper. "He cannot be in the room."

However, Yankees officials likely know that they cannot exclude Boras, sources say.

The Yankees can avoid Boras only if Rodriguez fires the agent and chooses either to represent himself or pick another representative.

Rodriguez gives no indication that he is ready to fire his longtime agent.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7446572?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

Judging from that,I'd say Boras is in there unless he's fired by A Rod...
 
Boras may be around but I don't think the Yankees are going to let him boss them around. I think A-Rod realizes that he needs to speak for himself about what he wants and tell Boras to shut it.
 
I'd say it has more to do with A Rod doing some image damage control:

A second Yankees source said that the team believes A-Rod is trying to restore his image, which has taken a beating since Boras announced the opt-out during Game 4 of the World Series.
"Alex likes to be the center of the universe," the source said. "He wants to be a part of the Stadium going down and the opening of the new one. It's not about money. It's about his face being everywhere. This is the only stage that can guarantee that."
"Most of this is about Alex trying to salvage his image," said another source close to the negotiations. "He's upset over the way this whole thing has played out and the way he's being portrayed now, because of Boras."
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it's called "good cop, bad cop" also known as "bad agent, good ballplayer" oldest ploy in the agent handbook.

If the money is there, ARod will sign..yankees, dodgers, angels...wherever.
 
Boras will be in the room but A-Rod is the one in charge. The Yankees offer is 10 years $270-75 million.
 
This is really gonna hurt Lowell who was looking for a 4th year.
 
Koodauw said:
There is something to be said about addition by subtraction.
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No, I get your point. If it were, say, Dennis Rodman or even Sheffield I might agree with you.

We're talking about one of the best baseball players of all time here, not some guy who had a good year and whines a lot.
 
Naimfan said:
That's what I thought--it is very similar to a lawyer speaking with a represented opposing party. Perhaps Rodriguez will grow a pair and fire Boras?
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I'm not sure I understand the Boras hate. Is it because he's too good at his job? Because then what you're saying is you hate agents. Is it because he represents Rodriguez? Because that's more like you hate Alex or ambitious athletes like him. Players hire Boras because he's really good at being an agent. I can understand the team front offices not liking him, but I'm not sure why fans would care either way.
 
aloofman said:
I'm not sure I understand the Boras hate. Is it because he's too good at his job? Because then what you're saying is you hate agents. Is it because he represents Rodriguez? Because that's more like you hate Alex or ambitious athletes like him. Players hire Boras because he's really good at being an agent. I can understand the team front offices not liking him, but I'm not sure why fans would care either way.
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He is a VERY good agent. Obviously, his sole purpose is to get as much money as possible for his clients, to which he excels. But, he seems to be so good at it, he gets players TOO much money. Barry Zito? A-Rod? However, he can't be 100% blamed, the front offices ARE shelling out the money.

To me, it's like having Apple try to sell me a $2000 macbook, when the average macbook costs $1100. But I'm dumb enough to pay $2000 anyways. Nevermind the fact that this macbook may be MVP :p
 
Some blame has to go to the union too. They push for the highest money possible.
 
aloofman said:
I'm not sure I understand the Boras hate. Is it because he's too good at his job? Because then what you're saying is you hate agents. Is it because he represents Rodriguez? Because that's more like you hate Alex or ambitious athletes like him. Players hire Boras because he's really good at being an agent. I can understand the team front offices not liking him, but I'm not sure why fans would care either way.
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Funny you should say that.

If you read the New Yorker article I linked (and you should). here is a response in the form of a letter written by Donald Wollett, who was mentioned in the article:


The New Yorker said:
DON'T HATE THE AGENT

Ben McGrath, in his piece on Scott Boras, describes me as an adviser who told Boras, "If you're good at what you do in the practice of law, ninety per cent of what is said about you will be negative" ("The Extortionist," October 29th). A lawyer, in other words, is often reviled just for doing a good job, and that seems to be the case with Boras.

Some fans (I am one) believe in, as Susan Sarandon put it in the movie "Bull Durham," the "church of baseball." To us romantics, the current compensation system -- in which the star player, with his star agent, sparks a bidding war and ends up with an exorbitant salary, while the journeyman player, without whom the game cannot be played, gets along on much less -- is worrisome.

However, the system is worrisome not because of agents like Scott Boras but because the rules for which the collective-bargaining process is responsible permit gross disparities in income levels.

Boras is not an extortionist. He's a damned good lawyer who believes in doing a damned good job for his client -- nothing more, nothing less -- and he lives by the rules handed down by the collective-bargaining process, by the ownersand the union.

Donald Wollett
Professor Emeritus of Law
University of the Pacific
McGeorge School of Law
Clinton, Wash.
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Graziano admits signing Lowell to switch positions would be tough, as teams like the Angels and Dodgers will be after him. According to a Boston television station, Lowell has already received offers from the Braves, Angels, Cardinals, and Yankees. Each is supposedly a four-year offer between $55-60MM. Color me skeptical of that particular rumor, but you never know.

Anyway, the Yankees dropping $50MM+ on Lowell just to thwart the Red Sox seems kind of irresponsible to me. Here's what they'd have:

C - Jorge Posada - $13.1MM
1B - Mike Lowell - $14MM
2B - Robinson Cano - $0.5MM
SS - Derek Jeter - $20MM
3B - Alex Rodriguez - $28MM
LF - Hideki Matsui - $13MM/Johnny Damon - $13MM
CF - Melky Cabrera - $0.5MM
RF - Bobby Abreu - $16MM
DH - Jason Giambi - $21MM

That's a $139MM starting lineup, and one of those guys would be on the bench. I imagine a Lowell signing would compel Brian Cashman to shop someone.
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http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/sports/BO66884/

Angels and Dodgers Battling For Miguel Cabrera

UPDATE, 11-15-07: MLB.com's Joe Frisaro says the Angels are in the lead now, and trade talk for Cabrera is picking up with A-Rod on the verge of signing. Frisaro says a deal could be done by Thanksgiving, in contrast to Joe Capozzi's suggestion that this would happen at the Winter Meetings. The L.A. Times explained several Dodgers/Angels scenarios on Wednesday; that's also worth a read.
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-cabrera14nov14,1,6152700.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports&ctrack=2&cset=true
 
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