Sounds like Japanese internment camps. Let's not even go there. That was a shameful time for America. There does need to be some sort of penalty, though. That I agree.
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quarantine for Public Health benefits is not anywhere similar. not in the least.
the battle is against a virus that affects all of us.
it is not discriminatory in who it affects.
I suppose so, but it is definitely a slippery slope. If we establish that the government CAN round up American citizens and throw them into camps (as we kinda did the last time that happened with the Japanese), it sets a dangerous precedent. We don't want the government to have that kind of power.
Plus, all you really need to do is enact harsh financial penalties (which can be done easily with drivers at least). That would make people listen so fast it'd make your head spin. People don't like to lose money. Wouldn't stop everyone, but it'd do a lot of good.
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Actually, historically at least, the network name was set on iOS via a carrier bundle file hosted on Apple's servers which included the network name as an image. Haven't checked into it in recent years so it could have changed etc.
Sorry but this is stupid, a phone nag isn’t going to stop the beach parties. Tanks will. Wheeee.
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I see no other option but some form of military enforcement if people continue to ignore shelter-in-place. My neighbors threw a party yesterday, tons of traffic on our street, shops refusing to close, nobody is staying home.
- I'm relatively young and healthy, but that doesn't mean I can't touch viral particles from others in public and spread them to others, or be infected myself (especially because many people are asymptomatic but infectious for a while) and spread it to others, who will then die if they're infected. I don't want to kill other people, and I hope you don't either.
- Lots of people have already gotten sick (422,000 confirmed, the actual number is much higher because of limited testing), quite a number of them have died (18,900), and the nature of infectious diseases and the data we've seen day after day, shows pretty horrifying exponential growth in terms of both of these things.
- The situation is the result of a very infectious virus with a relatively high hospitalisation and mortality rate, changing occupational licensing (if that's what you're getting at?) isn't going to help very much here.
- So much of the issue here is not just the number of people who will inevitably die if they're infected, but those who will need intensive hospital care to survive, and that if we don't work hard to cut the number of new infections, the number of people who need that care will quickly overwhelm the ability of healthcare systems to handle them, meaning a lot of completely avoidable deaths. This is the situation Italy has been in for a while now as they didn't lock down sooner, and the data indicates a similar fate is heading a lot of our ways.
So, now imagine that situation in rural areas, which are very often seriously underserved medically, with very few hospitals/beds etc. Still seem like it doesn't matter there?
Nah, just "I'm a ********" stickers. Do you want one?
Seems self-evident. Doesn't mean it's systematically the right move.
This world is overrun by arrogant, percept-bound, tribalistic, so-called 'thinkers' who see the world as either democrat or republican.
It would benefit them to pick up a book and turn off the TV or something.
And if you had the first clue about me, you'd know there is no-one who holds him and his BS to higher account. Not that that fact actually matters in this tribalistic "if you disagree with me, you must be on the 'other side,' and therefore an idiot, and probably a racist/everything else-ist too" society.
That very phrase is an absolute. Furthermore, everything in the real world is absolute, if the topic in question is properly understood and contextualized.
My point is that especially in rural areas, people are distanced by nature. Besides, people can calculate risk for themselves in places where such risk avoidance is possible, i.e. outside of cities, where it's damn near impossible to distance yourself from anyone in a meaningful way.
Also, it's important to notice this society's inclination to focus not on the cause of this problem -- massive, life restricting regulation, most notably in the form of the FDA restricting the right to produce and use testing kits and N95 masks in this particular instance -- and instead focus on how we can further control or restrict the right of people to act for their benefit. Companies in the technology sector, for example, which is very largely unregulated, is incredibly rapidly to adapt to incredibly complex changing circumstances. That type of free action is not available to someone entering the healthcare field, which violates their right to act freely according to their judgement, and impedes our ability to rapidly react to crises such as this one.
Every once in a while, there are a perfect storm of consequences for the evasions most engage in to justify these immoral regulatory apparatuses, and this is the consequence. Hell, many will rationalize the evil of these organizations right in the face of this crisis. Reality's justice knows no compromise, and recognizes no-one's evasions...
Those facts are important to keep in mind when were talking about shutting down an economy (which, as it so happens, is the means by which we produce the technology, goods and services we need to keep ourselves safe from this thing to begin with. Notice the stores all sold out of essential products), and that Cost has to be weighed against how many people would likely be saved and what could those specific people have done differently to prevent themselves from getting sick to begin with? It makes much more sense to me to make sure people who are particularly at risk are well aware of this fact, so they can make the decision to remove themselves from the danger that exists in society, without everyone shutting down, and destroying their ability not only to make a livelihood for themselves, but supply the goods and services need to not only survive this, but thrive.
The inability to test is the most proximate cause of the problem we're facing right now. If we knew who was sick, it would be exceedingly easy and proper to mandate a self quarantine for those individuals. The question is: Why don't we have those kits?
It’s not that it “doesn’t matter there.” My point is not that people in rural areas don't get sick, my point is it's much easier to distance yourself from other people in those settings than it is in the city, and therefore, your likelihood of contracting the disease to begin with as far lower. Furthermore, it's important to understand that the likelihood of someone contracting the disease to a point where their health is severely compromised, to a point where their life is threatened is also severely low. Holding that in mind, and comparing it against the likelihood of somebody not being able to pay for a credit card bill, or pay off their mortgage bill for the month, or pay the rent for the month, or maybe their business goes bankrupt, or maybe they lose their job, or maybe they don't get their paycheck from their job that week, and so they can't afford the other bills, etc. etc. These are all important factors to keep in mind when weighing what we should do.
The likelihood of somebody having severe financial damage, or even bankruptcy, however, is far higher than it is for someone to contract the disease and die from it. Now, if you're someone at risk, that doesn't mean you should go out with reckless abandon just pay a couple bills. This is something which has to be decided on an individual level, which is the exact case that I’m making here, for areas where distancing is possible.
And as for the ability of these facilities to handle the inflow of people which… Isn’t likely if proper distancing and hygiene is practiced… The aforementioned ability to increase staff significantly by reducing OL requirements certainly exists, and wages per hour can certainly adjust to incentivize intelligent people to take those jobs, even if on a temporary basis.
In Greece too, at Vodafone's network. "#menoume_spiti" (it's the national campaign of "we' re staying home")
How much social engineering will people take before they rise up against the police state?
be sure to tell yr elected representatives to take measures now to improve the ability for voters to vote by mail in November 2020.
I'm stuck at home anyway, as my job involves a lot of frequent travelling to and from London, but when I travel I always have wifi OFF.. I never use unsecure Wifi anywhere at all, that way I'm less vulnerable and use my old Blackberry if I have to get out my phone in London.
Stay safe everybody !
Stay safe everybody !
The doctor who discovered the disease died in his thirties, with no pre existing condition. Someone under 18 died in Southern California yesterday with no pre existing condition. Where do people get this idea that you can’t die from this unless you’re old or already sick?
Ironically, turning those radios back on just might require more energy than leaving them running. They have to boot, actively look for networks, etc.
(There may be privacy considerations to leave radios off, but that's another matter. Don't do it for battery's sake; it's a fool's game to microoptimize like that.)
One of the problems with doctors is they are over working, taking little rest, and have continue contact with patients. If they get the virus and continue working like crazy they may die. They're sacrificing themselves, and deserve praises for that, they are real heroes.
Another thing I read about young patients is the risk connected to physical activities. The first known patient in Italy run a marathon some days before being found positive. Getting the virus while running is really dangerous, as you are hyperventilating. Northern Italy is also too polluted, we need more studies to be sure there is a correlation but it is possible that the bad air we breathe during the year makes us more vulnerable to COVID.
That is why I hope Europe and US will have less casualties. You were also lucky to see what happened in Italy and had more time to prepare. Don't make our mistakes.
That'll only kick in if Internet over Wi-Fi is so bad, sites can't be reached. It won't (to my knowledge) compare speeds and then pick the faster one.
Firing them isn't gonna make them any less of a public hazard, though.
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Yes, but of those, only surveillance applies. There's no propaganda, disinformation, or denial of truth here.
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When you're connected to a Wi-Fi, you can tap the ℹ︎ next it and then "Forget This Network".
If you have a Mac on iCloud, you can also use that to manage Wi-Fi networks more thoroughly; they get synced.
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It's necessary for everyone.
Not "some".
