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MobileMe's Push Services Detailed, No Mac to Mobile Me 'Push'
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I watched this video clip and tried it all out. The changes on MM triggered a Sync on my MacPro (10.5.4) and the changes appeared. I created new entries, moved some and deleted some. Within a few seconds, a Sync was triggered and the changes appeared in iCal on my MacPro.
I then booted up my MBP and opened iCal. A Sync happened almost instantly. However, this is normal behaviour as it is set to do it automatically. I then made some changes on the MM iCal and watched my MBP iCal..... nothing. MacPro Sync triggered almost instantly and the changes appeared.
While double checking my Sync settings on the MBP i noticed that BTMM was showing a problem. I corrected the problem and tried a few more changes on MM. Both MacPro and MBP had a Sync triggered within seconds.
I wonder if the push facility relies on BTMM being functional?
You guys could test this out. I will disable BTMM on each Mac to see if it has an effect.
PS. The non functional BTMM on my MBP was something i knew about. I have a Netgear DG834G router connected to a Time Capsule in bridge mode. MacPro is set as DMZ to allow BTMM to work. I have tried several times to get BTMM working, without using DMZ, with no luck. Tonight, I tried another search for an answer to the problem and discovered a post on a forum from someone in Germany who got it to work with UPnP. BTMM is now working fine on both Macs without the use of DMZ setting.
I watched this video clip and tried it all out. The changes on MM triggered a Sync on my MacPro (10.5.4) and the changes appeared. I created new entries, moved some and deleted some. Within a few seconds, a Sync was triggered and the changes appeared in iCal on my MacPro.
I then booted up my MBP and opened iCal. A Sync happened almost instantly. However, this is normal behaviour as it is set to do it automatically. I then made some changes on the MM iCal and watched my MBP iCal..... nothing. MacPro Sync triggered almost instantly and the changes appeared.
While double checking my Sync settings on the MBP i noticed that BTMM was showing a problem. I corrected the problem and tried a few more changes on MM. Both MacPro and MBP had a Sync triggered within seconds.
I wonder if the push facility relies on BTMM being functional?
You guys could test this out. I will disable BTMM on each Mac to see if it has an effect.
PS. The non functional BTMM on my MBP was something i knew about. I have a Netgear DG834G router connected to a Time Capsule in bridge mode. MacPro is set as DMZ to allow BTMM to work. I have tried several times to get BTMM working, without using DMZ, with no luck. Tonight, I tried another search for an answer to the problem and discovered a post on a forum from someone in Germany who got it to work with UPnP. BTMM is now working fine on both Macs without the use of DMZ setting.
my macbook air seems to update every like 3 minutes when i fuxor with ical
this will be fixed in a couple days.. to me i think its a prblem with some comps that have been setup already before mobile me.... i had to do a complete restore to my fiances computer
so i will set up her mobileme as a brand new computer.. lets see what happens
this will be fixed in a couple days.. to me i think its a prblem with some comps that have been setup already before mobile me.... i had to do a complete restore to my fiances computer
so i will set up her mobileme as a brand new computer.. lets see what happens
I'm beginning to think that's what I'm indeed going to have to do as I've tried absolutely everything else.
Mobile Me is flaky
I had to actually remove my .Mac account from my iPhone then add it back as a me.com account to get any of this to work, even a little. Now adding to the iPhone shows up online quickly. Adding online shows up on iPhone quickly. Adding on mac...hasn't shown up at all yet, even after a manually triggered sync. Perhaps I need to remove the .mac account from the mac and re add as a me.com account.
I had to actually remove my .Mac account from my iPhone then add it back as a me.com account to get any of this to work, even a little. Now adding to the iPhone shows up online quickly. Adding online shows up on iPhone quickly. Adding on mac...hasn't shown up at all yet, even after a manually triggered sync. Perhaps I need to remove the .mac account from the mac and re add as a me.com account.
I looked very closely. When they refer to pushing they do not mention mac pushing up. They say "When you make a change on one device, the cloud updates the others." Neither demo shows iCal or Address Book being used. Automatically does not mean instantly or pushing.
My calendar and contacts are quite important to me in my business. Over the air syncing is a nice feature and saves me time and effort, so I went with MobileMe. But if there is some extremely important bit of information that I need when I am going somewhere (e.g. name, address and phone number of someone I never met before) I make sure I have it in a redundant fashion - yes, even writing it down on a piece of paper. I never totally rely on technology - devices get lost or stolen,batteries run out, servers go down and on and on. And of course, if it so damn important for you to have that meeting on your iPhone as you are going out, then put it on your iphone before you leave for the meeting, instead of in iCal. Hence instant gratification is not important to me because I always make sure to have redundancy when immediate access is desired/necessary.
As usual, the whining on these boards sounds more like overly-inflated egos attached to someone with a 3 year old's sense of entitlement, than any reality based need.
Not a very elegant solution but ....
Code:
#!/bin/bash
OLD=`ls -laR ~/Library/Calendars/ | md5`;
while [ 1 == 1 ]; do
COMPARE=`ls -laR ~/Library/Calendars/ | md5`;
if [ $OLD != $COMPARE ]; then
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Resources/dotmacsyncclient --sync com.apple.DotMacSync --entitynames com.apple.calendars.Attendee,com.apple.calendars.AudioAlarm,com.apple.calendars.CalDAVAccount,com.apple.calendars.Calendar,com.apple.calendars.CalendarOrder,com.apple.calendars.DisplayAlarm,com.apple.calendars.Event,com.apple.calendars.MailAlarm,com.apple.calendars.Organizer,com.apple.calendars.Recurrence,com.apple.calendars.Task,com.apple.contacts.CalendarURI,com.apple.contacts.Contact,com.apple.contacts.Custom Field,com.apple.contacts.Date,com.apple.contacts.Email Address,com.apple.contacts.Group,com.apple.contacts.IM,com.apple.contacts.ImageTransformationInfo,com.apple.contacts.Phone Number,com.apple.contacts.Related Name,com.apple.contacts.SmartGroup,com.apple.contacts.Street Address,com.apple.contacts.URL,com.apple.ical.calendars.DotMacPublisher,com.apple.ical.calendars.Invitation,com.apple.ical.calendars.Node,com.apple.ical.calendars.ProcAlarm,com.apple.ical.calendars.RootNode,com.apple.ical.calendars.TaskOrder,com.apple.ical.calendars.URLPublisher,com.apple.notes.Attachment,com.apple.notes.Keyword,com.apple.notes.Note,com.apple.palm.calendars.Category,com.apple.palm.contacts.Category
OLD=$COMPARE;
fi;
sleep 10;
doneNice tryBut no... just no.
I appreciate it's quite possibly the most inefficient way to do it (particularly with the MD5 method) ... but it *does* work ...
If I could be bothered I could write something which would hook in better to spotlight and monitor those files for changes, and if changed call the command to sync it .. however, it was a quick hack to solve it for someone I work with and as all they use their mac for is iCal / Mail / Safari it doesnt cause that much of a performance hit
No Push to iPhone @ All
I have updated the iPhone installed the Mobileme update followed the instruction and I don't get any contacts on my iPhone, in fact once I set it to push it wipes out all my contacts on the iPhone and the only way I can get them back is turn off under preferences on the iPhone to NOT Sync with Mobileme, run iTunes re-sync to my iMac iCal all is well.
Plus the fact that Mobileme can't sync to my subscription calendars really stinks. I don't get Mobileme I thought it was suppose to bring together all this and also other email POP accounts. Although I did see a place where Mobileme could get messages from other POP accounts I haven't been too successful in doing it yet..
UPDATE; Per a users comments I remove my Mobileme email account from my iPhone and it started to sync the address book. Now all Apple has to do is figure out how to really sync iCal calendars including the subscription one..
I have updated the iPhone installed the Mobileme update followed the instruction and I don't get any contacts on my iPhone, in fact once I set it to push it wipes out all my contacts on the iPhone and the only way I can get them back is turn off under preferences on the iPhone to NOT Sync with Mobileme, run iTunes re-sync to my iMac iCal all is well.
Plus the fact that Mobileme can't sync to my subscription calendars really stinks. I don't get Mobileme I thought it was suppose to bring together all this and also other email POP accounts. Although I did see a place where Mobileme could get messages from other POP accounts I haven't been too successful in doing it yet..
UPDATE; Per a users comments I remove my Mobileme email account from my iPhone and it started to sync the address book. Now all Apple has to do is figure out how to really sync iCal calendars including the subscription one..
MM-->iCal = wonk?
is anyone having success going from the cloud to iCal? mine only syncs. no pushing action. from the various other boards it seems like some people have luck with this and others do not. just trying to get an idea if i'm the only dude out here having problems with this end of the issue.
is anyone having success going from the cloud to iCal? mine only syncs. no pushing action. from the various other boards it seems like some people have luck with this and others do not. just trying to get an idea if i'm the only dude out here having problems with this end of the issue.
Nice try
If you could do it, don't you think apple could too?
I'd say at most it'd take Apple's programmers about 20 minutes to implement
either as updates to iCal and Address Book or to OS X itself... why it wasn't included in the MobileMe update I have no ideaRegarding this whole "push" experience
I've been playing/testing all this since Saturday and everything seems to work well with a few jumps and fits here and there
...and I've been reading the forums. I seem to be missing the drama. Mostly MM or "the cloud" seems to come and go.
Everything I've entered/edited/deleted on either my imac, 2g iphone, or on MM has appeared/changed/disappeared in all three places within a reasonable time and sometimes shockingly fast. That seems to be as advertised.
Maybe I am coinciding with syncs but alot of things seem to trigger a sync or a push. Sometimes things appear on my iphone BEFORE on MM!
Regarding idisk, it has been there all along and works flawlessly and it is VERY COOL! Maybe different servers in different countries have different issues.
Overall I'm pleased; this is a HUGE rollout of products and services overhaul to the entire world. Geez, Microsoft has had crap out for years and its NEVER worked as expected/advertised.
I've been playing/testing all this since Saturday and everything seems to work well with a few jumps and fits here and there
...and I've been reading the forums. I seem to be missing the drama. Mostly MM or "the cloud" seems to come and go.
Everything I've entered/edited/deleted on either my imac, 2g iphone, or on MM has appeared/changed/disappeared in all three places within a reasonable time and sometimes shockingly fast. That seems to be as advertised.
Maybe I am coinciding with syncs but alot of things seem to trigger a sync or a push. Sometimes things appear on my iphone BEFORE on MM!
Regarding idisk, it has been there all along and works flawlessly and it is VERY COOL! Maybe different servers in different countries have different issues.
Overall I'm pleased; this is a HUGE rollout of products and services overhaul to the entire world. Geez, Microsoft has had crap out for years and its NEVER worked as expected/advertised.
I'd say at most it'd take Apple's programmers about 20 minutes to implement
here here!
Apple is not done fully migrating user accounts,or even finished w/ functionality
Seems like certain MM (Mobile Me) services are working for certain users, and not for others, a user by user basis.
I think Apple is not done fully migrating user accounts from dot mac to MM, or even finished with functionality.
Calendar sync is working, but Calendars don't always display, spinning wheel.
Another thing, Contacts from MM are definitely Not syncing from MM to the iPhone, tried toggling setting on the iPhone to no avail.
Used to work for Apple in Cupertino, now in Los Angeles.
C'mon Apple, get this fixed, somewhat embarrassing.
I was one of those who stood in line from 7 am to 1 pm to get an iPhone 3G, and the dependency on ATT activation was a disaster.
Can't believe SJ is happy on how this transpired for Apple, kind of a black eye.
I bet we see SJ offer a public apology letter sometime next week.
He can't fire ATT people who screwed the pooch here, but the iTunes servers not able to handle the iTunes 7.7 update rush, that will fall in Apple's realm, this was completely avoidable and I bet Apple people may lose their jobs.
If you have 100 servers to handle the iTunes updates, just recruit more servers, 100 more, etc.
Not sure if this was the issue or not, but if Apple did not have more servers to just rollover to, its quite embarrassing for a computer company that has the complexity of technology behind the iTunes Store (Web Objects), that handles 10's of thousands of transactions per hour for iTunes music, but can not handle a simple run on the iTunes 7.7 update.
Oh wait, the iTunes 7.7 update was free, and the iTunes store makes Apple millions, so as usual (can't blame them) but Apple puts the focus on what makes Apple immediate money, the iTunes Store servers, handling CC transactions.
I'll bet the iTunes 7.7 update servers were old and not attended to, or just not enough, man I hope I am wrong about that.
Anyone able to Upgrade / Convert your Individual dot Mac account to an Activated MM Family Pack.
MM will not let me, either the functionality is whacked or just not there yet, or it wants a Credit Card, uh, I just purchased an Activation, I am not paying again, with a credit card.
Any experiences, feedback in this,
macguitarman@mac.com
Seems like certain MM (Mobile Me) services are working for certain users, and not for others, a user by user basis.
I think Apple is not done fully migrating user accounts from dot mac to MM, or even finished with functionality.
Calendar sync is working, but Calendars don't always display, spinning wheel.
Another thing, Contacts from MM are definitely Not syncing from MM to the iPhone, tried toggling setting on the iPhone to no avail.
Used to work for Apple in Cupertino, now in Los Angeles.
C'mon Apple, get this fixed, somewhat embarrassing.
I was one of those who stood in line from 7 am to 1 pm to get an iPhone 3G, and the dependency on ATT activation was a disaster.
Can't believe SJ is happy on how this transpired for Apple, kind of a black eye.
I bet we see SJ offer a public apology letter sometime next week.
He can't fire ATT people who screwed the pooch here, but the iTunes servers not able to handle the iTunes 7.7 update rush, that will fall in Apple's realm, this was completely avoidable and I bet Apple people may lose their jobs.
If you have 100 servers to handle the iTunes updates, just recruit more servers, 100 more, etc.
Not sure if this was the issue or not, but if Apple did not have more servers to just rollover to, its quite embarrassing for a computer company that has the complexity of technology behind the iTunes Store (Web Objects), that handles 10's of thousands of transactions per hour for iTunes music, but can not handle a simple run on the iTunes 7.7 update.
Oh wait, the iTunes 7.7 update was free, and the iTunes store makes Apple millions, so as usual (can't blame them) but Apple puts the focus on what makes Apple immediate money, the iTunes Store servers, handling CC transactions.
I'll bet the iTunes 7.7 update servers were old and not attended to, or just not enough, man I hope I am wrong about that.
Anyone able to Upgrade / Convert your Individual dot Mac account to an Activated MM Family Pack.
MM will not let me, either the functionality is whacked or just not there yet, or it wants a Credit Card, uh, I just purchased an Activation, I am not paying again, with a credit card.
Any experiences, feedback in this,
macguitarman@mac.com
