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Mockups Imagine What Apps Might Look Like on iPhone 8
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Samsung didn’t get rid of bezels either. There’s a big top an bottom bezel on the S8 I had the phone for 3 months.
I personally think they'll only have icons soon carrier or battery percentage - I'd imagine you could click on the icons to bring up additional info like battery percentage.
I know you guys are just trying to come up with stuff, but in the HomePod firmware it has been confirmed that there will be an area for the home button. There is actual code that describes it! The facts (not believe, but facts) are that:
- It resizes
- Indicator can be hidden
- No API to change colour
- Tab bar can extend under it
So no, the power button will not have a double function as that would be terrible. Also 3D touching on a random part of the screen would never work as apps are using 3D Touch (where would you 3D Touch in Mail to get home? Impossible!) You guys are reaching for things while Apple already provided the evidence for you.
The same as above, the HomePod firmware confirms the sides next to the notch is for the status bar:
This is evidence from Apple itself, so not an opinion of how people on a forum want it. By the way, developers have generated a screen based on these values and guess what, it perfectly forms the those spaces next to the notch:
Also, the glyph in the firmware might tell something about their intentions:
If Apple would always want to hide the notch through software and black bezels, why make it so obvious in this glyph? I first was of the idea of symmetry and blacking out parts of the display, but the real evidence is showing that Apple might embrace the notch and use the extended tab bar (so depending on the colour of the app) to show the home button area.
I totally agree.
By the way... am I the only one person in the world that actually likes the "notch"? It gives the iPhone a unique aesthetic character (that was previously demanded to the physical round home button) and it actually makes sense from the perspective of having as much screen real estate as possible.
I love it.
I do hope Apple comes up with an interesting solution by embedding the home button into the screen. These mock ups are pretty much how I expected the UI to look; a bezel represented on the screen because of how the home button is incorporated. If this is how it's going to be, it would almost seem pointless to make an (almost) edge to edge screen.
Stacking them would definitely work for me visually.
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Yeah, some find their "niche" and get trapped in it.
This moves on from a rumour to pure stupid speculation, and for me, doesn't even deserve reading.
I think they will simply drop the "time" display in the upper center because of courage. Plus you should really have an Apple Watch if you wanna know the time.
[doublepost=1502669565][/doublepost]Ugliest mock-ups ever...the clock location is unlike apple and the version w/ the continuous black top bar shows a harsh transition, no fade or gradient? Who the hell decided to publish this as an article?
As the launch of Apple's "iPhone 8" approaches, we've seen multiple images and dummy models outlining what the device will look like, but non-functional dummy devices don't include software and don't offer a complete picture of what we can expect.
Designer Maksim Petriv has mocked up several iPhone 8 images that take into account current rumors to demonstrate what iOS 11 might look like on the new device.
Rumors and leaked firmware information suggest the iPhone 8 includes both a top notch that houses the front-facing camera and sensors for a facial recognition system and a function area with a virtual Home button, both of which are imagined in Petriv's images.
Petriv's photos include status bar information located at the top of the device on either side of the notch, and a small Home button area at the bottom. We're not yet sure what Apple plans to do with that area of the iPhone 8, but we do know that it's resizable, can be hidden, and does not appear to include app UI elements, meaning it's simple.
The renderings made by Petriv demonstrated the Lock screen and App Store, along with popular apps Netflix and Spotify.
Apple's HomePod firmware has suggested the status bar information like signal strength, carrier info, and battery life will be split and displayed in the area near the sensors/camera, with Petriv also imagining three ways Apple could display status bar information. Apple's own firmware image leak points towards the third option and suggests the company will fully embrace the notch rather than hiding it through software.
It's not quite clear what design solution Apple will use, but these images do give us some idea of what apps will look like on an edge-to-edge display with almost no bezels and with a cutout for the front-facing camera and sensors.
Apple typically unveils new iPhones in early September, so we are just weeks away from getting our first glimpse at the iPhone 8 and its companion devices, the iPhone 7s and the iPhone 7s Plus. For a deeper look at what to expect from the upcoming iPhones, make sure to check out our iPhone 8 roundup.
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Yeah they've trained people who already own an iPhone 7, which are more likely to buy this higher tier device. But I think it's pretty crappy to remove functionality such as the 3D Touch multitasking for older iPhone users. It's not like there are many 3D Touch shortcuts to begin with, and I pretty much only use that shortcut with the keyboard selection one and peeking at links.
One concept render from quite a few months ago(*) did have a virtual home button at the bottom but when displayed it was far less intrusive than the one in these renders. These renders show something that looks as if it's trying to mimic the old home button pretty closely in size and appearance. The old renders that I saw didn't have a big home button, it was more like two quite small concentric circles, a bit like the inner rings of a target, which gave the user an idea of where to press the screen but, because there was no need to read a fingerprint or anything, wasn't a full finger/home-button sized object. To me it looked really neat, wasn't as distracting and didn't intrude as much on the screen space of the application using the rest of the screen compared to the home button on these renders. I really hope Apple go that way instead of trying to visually copy the look and feel of the old home button too closely.
(*) I can't remember which one, there have been so many, so no link - sorry.
(*) I can't remember which one, there have been so many, so no link - sorry.
Prefer the middle option of the last image. "Designing around" a block of hardware is just naff in the extreme.
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In the same way that a turd is also something.
I disagree with the mockups. If Apple manages to put Touch ID behind the screen then:
- why do you have to have the virtual button always on the screen? There would be no use of getting rid of the "button" (which in the iPhone 7 is already not a physical one) just to place an "on screen button" eating up the same amount of space and being always present.
I imagine Apple puts the Touch ID slightly below the center of the screen (where the icon to unlock the phone appears in iOS 11). Much easier to use and easier to hold the phone one handed while unlocking. After all, touch ID would be used to unlock the phone and make secure payments, not much more.
The "home" button, or the fact that you press the button to get back to the main screen, can be solved with a much smaller button, somewhere in the bottom bar.
All in all I think these mockups reflect the current functionalities of the home button too much. And I think Apple will try to use the bottom part of the screen much better.
- why do you have to have the virtual button always on the screen? There would be no use of getting rid of the "button" (which in the iPhone 7 is already not a physical one) just to place an "on screen button" eating up the same amount of space and being always present.
I imagine Apple puts the Touch ID slightly below the center of the screen (where the icon to unlock the phone appears in iOS 11). Much easier to use and easier to hold the phone one handed while unlocking. After all, touch ID would be used to unlock the phone and make secure payments, not much more.
The "home" button, or the fact that you press the button to get back to the main screen, can be solved with a much smaller button, somewhere in the bottom bar.
All in all I think these mockups reflect the current functionalities of the home button too much. And I think Apple will try to use the bottom part of the screen much better.
I think I'm gonna seriously write off this time if they end up having that oogly cutout at the top.
Well come on then, Mr. Smartarse, why don’t you give us the meaning, then?!
A definition I found of bezel states:
- A space or frame around a display device, such as on a television or mobile device
Well, I don't think there can be a really bezel-less device yet, as the interface would have problems. However, for the first time, if I had to choose I think that Samsung's S8 bezel style is more consistent, more clear, and more honest for that matter. Apple used to be all about small details and they used to be perfectionists, hence I can't believe they will end up with the mess shown in the mock-ups. This is just all over the place.
I hadn't considered the use of the power
I hadn't thought about using the power button as a home button - and it seems longer so perhaps that is why? In that situation, you'd only need the virtual home button to appear when you need touch ID, which could then appear only when needed.
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the new Sony OLED TV uses the panel itself as the speaker - obviously it still needs a transducer but that is behind the screen.
I think NXT(?) did something similar with speakers in picture frames maybe 10 years ago? You don't need a hole to have a speaker. And even if you do, you could use holes in the frame like the ipad. And considering the number of people I see who have conversations on their phone while holding it like they're eating some toast, with the phone on speaker, maybe they can just do away with the 'ear' speaker altogether.
I hadn't thought about using the power button as a home button - and it seems longer so perhaps that is why? In that situation, you'd only need the virtual home button to appear when you need touch ID, which could then appear only when needed.
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the new Sony OLED TV uses the panel itself as the speaker - obviously it still needs a transducer but that is behind the screen.
I think NXT(?) did something similar with speakers in picture frames maybe 10 years ago? You don't need a hole to have a speaker. And even if you do, you could use holes in the frame like the ipad. And considering the number of people I see who have conversations on their phone while holding it like they're eating some toast, with the phone on speaker, maybe they can just do away with the 'ear' speaker altogether.
Having the top left and right parts of the screen wrap around the camera just to have the cell reception and clock up there seems like a really big waste of design and manufacturing resources. None of the mockups show this area being used effectively so its hard for me to understand why they would go this route for very minimal gain.
Not a waste if you are gaining useable screen. I welcome any additional screen.
If that notch is for real, that is the dumbest design **** Apple has ever put out (worse than puck mouse). It's platform fragmentation and design fragmentation at it's worst. As a designer and developer, I HATE that notch already. I hate I'm going to have to (possibly) develop/write any code to deal with that. If there's a option, I'm going to make my apps be simple full rectangle screen, no cutouts. I thought Android had horrible screen fragmentation with their spi, dpi, dip, xdpi, etc, but Apple's one upped them with poop.