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Fanboy comments... Geez.

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What's your background in marketing?

An intelligent person would know that nothing I said was fanboyish sorry to say :/. It's a simple fact, no third party has anywhere near the capacity Apple does to make a controller good, think. If Google made a controller it would be a million times better than a third party controller as well (hint: the more powerful the company, the more they have to spend making things good). Moreover, if there were an Apple controller instead of a third party controller it would be much more likely to be purchased by Apple consumers.
 
An intelligent person would know that nothing I said was fanboyish sorry to say :/. It's a simple fact, no third party has anywhere near the capacity Apple does to make a controller good, think. If Google made a controller it would be a million times better than a third party controller as well (hint: the more powerful the company, the more they have to spend making things good). Moreover, if there were an Apple controller instead of a third party controller it would be much more likely to be purchased by Apple consumers.

You're basing your entire argument that Apple's implementation of gaming controllers will be a failure on your opinion of a short video clip of this specific controller, that isn't even released yet, and say that only Apple could make a controller that consumers would buy and game developers would include support for.

If that's not a sign of you being a fanboy, it's a sign of you simply not being very clever. Seeing how you say a controller made by Google wouldn't be a third party controller and that how good a product is is measured by how "powerful" the company making it is, I guess option number two is far more likely. So you're right, I'm sorry for calling you a fanboy.
 
You're basing your entire argument that Apple's implementation of gaming controllers will be a failure on your opinion of a short video clip of this specific controller, that isn't even released yet, and say that only Apple could make a controller that consumers would buy and game developers would include support for.

If that's not a sign of you being a fanboy, it's a sign of you simply not being very clever. Seeing how you say a controller made by Google wouldn't be a third party controller and that how good a product is is measured by how "powerful" the company making it is, I guess option number two is far more likely. So you're right, I'm sorry for calling you a fanboy.

Guess I'll have to take this one on in steps. First of all Apple isn't implementing gaming controllers (which is what I wish was happening), they are implementing an API for developers to add to their apps, and a few basic controller layouts from which third parties can design and manufacture their own MFi gaming controllers. Secondly I said if Apple made a controller it would be much more 'likely' that it would be widely purchased, developers would all get on board, and more AAA titles would be more likely to hit the App Store. My entire point is that I'm worried that not making their own will be detrimental to the entire gaming expieremce on iOS, mainly due to AAA developers not seeing enough reason to develope for iOS due to less than stellar third party controller adoption.

The reason it's not a sign of me being a fanboy is because it is a fact that Apple designed controller would be purchased more than a third party designed controller, for a multitude of reasons, but most importantly based on the marketing and brand recognition. Also I meant a controller made by Google for Google products, not for iOS. The point being that Google would make a better controller for Google than third parties would make for Google (i.e. not being a fanboy). Lastly the more powerful company with more cash is absolutely going to make the better product as they have so much more resources and money to spend on R&D.
 
Nah will be next year now. Cook said in the financial report. It's an iPad christmas and next year will be new product categories.

I personally see it as
A watch device
The TV
AND if they are not missing the biggest trick...
Home automation based stuff. It's a perfect apple blend. Even if they are not making the actual Hardware, say light switches etc. they will produce a chip that either works on BT4 or Airplay for home automation... "Airhome' or something.

Control everything from your watch / TV / Phone, mac or whatever comes along in the future. Automatic location based house control, such as turning the lights, new iTV and kettle on as you are close to home.

The trick would be to make it not dependant on a specific Device... So you don't have to have the iTV or iPhone, but a watch with say a ATV will work as a hub controller. the ATV is soooo underused it's crazy.

But if you have a TV you can have visual control over your house too. All sorts of home automation options are available - lighting, heating ( partner with Nest ) The Chips can be put into Ovens :) Blind controls, Locks, alarms, Smoke and CO2 Alarms, Cameras and anything else you can think of.

the whole lot could be controllable from any of your devices, and unlike ALL Current home automation won't require a degree in Linux Programming to setup. It'll have a simple drag and drop type interface.

Wishful thinking?

Funny you say that. Moving next year. Here is my note for things I will be getting.

For New House

20 pack of Outlets/USB


http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newe..._medium=banner_336x280&utm_campaign=p2u_award

Hue Lightbulbs
1 Starter pack (Hub and 3 bulbs)
# additional bulbs
http://www.meethue.com/en-US




Nest Thermostat (2)

http://www.nest.com


Protect smoke detector (by Nest)

http://www.nest.com/smoke-co-alarm/life-with-nest-protect/


Lock with iPhone



UniKey-powered Kevo aims to make Apple's iPhone the ultimate secure wireless hou... http://goo.gl/4nR4d
 
Guess I'll have to take this one on in steps. First of all Apple isn't implementing gaming controllers (which is what I wish was happening), they are implementing an API for developers to add to their apps, and a few basic controller layouts from which third parties can design and manufacture their own MFi gaming controllers.
You say tomatos...

Secondly I said if Apple made a controller it would be much more 'likely' that it would be widely purchased, developers would all get on board, and more AAA titles would be more likely to hit the App Store. My entire point is that I'm worried that not making their own will be detrimental to the entire gaming expieremce on iOS, mainly due to AAA developers not seeing enough reason to develope for iOS due to less than stellar third party controller adoption.
Do you have any valid reason for these worries?

The fact that Apple doesn't make a controller will definitely mean that some people won't buy one, and consequently won't buy AAA titles to try the controller. On the other hand, the gaming community, which are who purchase the games, have responded with nothing but joy over the fact that there will be third party controllers since this means we'll be able to purchase the one that suits us the best, and most likely to something like half the price of what Apple would have charged.

The reason it's not a sign of me being a fanboy is because it is a fact that Apple designed controller would be purchased more than a third party designed controller, for a multitude of reasons, but most importantly based on the marketing and brand recognition. Also I meant a controller made by Google for Google products, not for iOS. The point being that Google would make a better controller for Google than third parties would make for Google (i.e. not being a fanboy).
I bet you a fiver that even the sales of the lower cost controllers will be far more than the "ooh, look, an Apple gaming controller, let's try it"-sales.

Lastly the more powerful company with more cash is absolutely going to make the better product as they have so much more resources and money to spend on R&D.
Yeah, like, totally dude!

In 2001, Microsoft was 40 times bigger than Apple in terms of cash, and don't even get me started on Windows/OS X ratio back then... Please tell me the more powerful company with more cash absolutely made the better product, and how the Zune completely kicked the iPod in the nuts.
 
Hue Lightbulbs
1 Starter pack (Hub and 3 bulbs)
# additional bulbs
http://www.meethue.com/en-US

Nest Thermostat (2)
http://www.nest.com

Protect smoke detector (by Nest)
http://www.nest.com/smoke-co-alarm/life-with-nest-protect/

Lock with iPhone
UniKey-powered Kevo aims to make Apple's iPhone the ultimate secure wireless hou... http://goo.gl/4nR4d

you should check this out too...
http://canary.is

I think the main issue is all the different setup and protocols with that lot. Someone needs to have some standards and Apple are capable of it. Although I do believe in having open standards for a lot of things, Having a home control system locked down is actually a good thing.
 
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