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Would you ask your friend to cover the repair cost?


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Someone is not able to think. The tv stays where it's at, nobody moves it. The kids are grown and have their own. No friends have ever asked to borrow my tv.

My children do not drive my car and they are grown anyway. I do not loan it out to anyone.

Stop spewing ridiculous blather.

So you have friends that have to borrow your tv and car (if you are old enough to have one). I do not. Don't like it then tough s@#$.
There is a difference between 'use' and 'take' so don't twist my words. My response wasn't meant for your personal circumstance, it's more about the principle, so don't feel the need to share your life story.

So you're saying that you DID previously let other people use your TV and ride in your car but now that your particular circumstance means that this doesn't happen, you spew some 'ridiculous blather' about how it's all "me me me".
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sounds like what someone would say with no family or friends.
I guess it was just how he was raised. His parents probably told him "sharing *isn't caring".
 
So you have friends that have to borrow your tv and car


I got a pick-up (2nd vehicle) that I loan out to friends at least once a month so they can move something, clean out something, etc - it just ain't a big deal and nothing's ever happened to it - that's just what friends do.
 
How simple....

My car, no one else uses it
My phone, no one else uses it
My TV, no one else uses it.

Do people do simple anymore ?

The real lesson from this thread isn't whether the friend should pay to repair it (because that goes w/o saying)...it's whether anyone can borrow your phone at all, because anyone can drop a phone accidentally.

So if you don't have complete confidence that the borrower will made good if the phone gets damaged, then don't lend the phone out. It's that simple.
 
So my advice would be to tell your friend he broke your screen and see what he says.
Remember he was drunk so may have little recall of the incident.

My second piece of advice would be to not lend your drunk friends your iPhone.
If they ask to borrow your phone to get a taxi, just book it for them.

As for what to do about your friend if he doesn't pay up, only you can evaluate the friendship and decide the best way forward.

Excellent post and one with which I agree.

Overall, though, I am somewhat astonished at the emotional investment some of those who have posted appear to have in - or the degree of emotional attachment they appear to have for - their phones.

I am also astounded at the sheer - lack of understanding - exhibited in some of the posts.

Several years ago, I was travelling on a long distance bus, and a very polite kid - aged around 11 - sitting beside me, asked to use my phone to notify his parents where he was (on the bus journey), and when he expected to arrive at the destination where his parents were (to drive some distance) to collect him.

Of course I gave him my phone. The kid offered to pay, (which needless to say I did not accept) and was hugely embarrassed when he got his - clearly much younger - sister (who was equally clearly thrilled) on the line, while he tried to impress on her the urgency of his message by begging her to fetch his parents, so that he could explain what he was doing.

Batteries run out, phones die, people get robbed. Things happen. Emergencies happen.

I have been that person who needed to borrow a phone to make a call - once in an airport (mine didn't work), another time, I lost a phone - I think - at a bus station; yet another time a phone of mine was stolen.

Candidly, I have to say if someone asked to use my phone, I would have a hard job refusing them, unless they looked as though they were of a threatening disposition.

Now, if they were intoxicated, I would remove the phone from their clumsy hands and insist on making the call for them. Actually, I have - on occasion - removed someone else's phone from their hand - taken their phone from them - in order to make a call that they themselves were too inebriated to make.

To the OP: @Apple fanboy's post is balanced, decent, sane and sensible, and I'd echo his advice.
 
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Excellent post and one with which I agree.

Overall, though, I am somewhat astonished at the emotional investment some of those who have posted appear to have for their phones.

I am also astounded at the sheer - lack of understanding - exhibited in some of the posts.

Several years ago, I was travelling on a long distance bus, and a very polite kid - aged around 11 - sitting beside me, asked to use my phone to notify his parents where he was (in the bus journey), and when he expected to arrive at the destination where his parents were to collect him.

Of course I gave him my phone. The kid offered to pay, (which needless to say I did not accept) and was hugely embarrassed when he got his - clearly much younger - sister (who was equally clearly thrilled) on the line, while he tried to impress the urgency of his message to her by begging her to get his parents, so that he could explain what he was doing.

Batteries run out, phones die, people get robbed. Things happen. I have to say if someone asked to use my phone, I would have a hard job refusing them, unless they looked as though they were of a threatening disposition.

Now, if they were intoxicated, I would remove the phone from their clumsy hands and insist on making the call for them. Actually, I have - on occasion - removed someone else's phone from their hand - taken their phone from them - in order to make a call that they themselves were too inebriated to make.

Good story.

Sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith and hope a kind gesture doesn't backfire on you. 'Cause sometimes, it does...as the OP may have cause for regret.

Hopefully, the friend will make good.
 
Good story.

Sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith and hope a kind gesture doesn't backfire on you. 'Cause sometimes, it does...as the OP may have cause for regret.

Hopefully, the friend will make good.

I remember that the kid had asked me where I thought the bus was (at what point of the journey) and had discussed distances and estimated times of arrival with me; at that time, I travelled a lot on that route, and had a very good idea indeed of the entire journey, and so was pretty accurately able to estimate times, and distances between any two points on the trip.

More to the point, I remember having been very impressed by his manners; he was a polite, decent, responsible kid, the sort any parent would have been proud of.

Thus, on the general issue, I honestly think that basic decency and a sort of cost-benefit analysis - but measured on an personal or psychological scale, rather than a materialistic one - are what is called for here.

To me, measuring on such a scale, ensuring that someone could call a taxi (basically enabling them to get home safely) is of a far higher order of need than keeping a phone pristine. Of course, I give them the phone, or make the call for them.

(On the topic of phones, and iPods: Mine are always encased in leather, and that includes the antique Nokia that I am currently using; I don't 'do' what some on these threads describe as 'naked' phones).

Now, I will readily concede that if someone shows a consistent pattern of behaviour whereby they are casual, cavalier, and careless with my possessions, well, yes, the degree of friendship might well suffer, as what you are seeing is a lack of respect.

But, as for accidents? They happen.

Mention it to the friend, and see what transpires.

Several years ago, I was at a formal reception when a retired colonel with whom I was working, and with whom I was engaged in a very serious conversation, accidentally spilled a glass of red wine on my (expensive bespoke) jacket. He was horrified, and profusely apologetic, and asked to make good the cost - irrespective of what it was, especially if it required specialist cleaning - of the cleaning when we both returned to our respective countries, insisting that I take his contact details.

Anyway, the jacket was made of good tweed, a robust material, and I figured that water and a decent rinse would do the trick (it did) and I wouldn't hear of letting my colleague pay. However, I will admit that my already considerable respect for him was reinforced by the fact that he offered (genuinely - he raised the topic subsequently) to pay for this.
 
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I think you are in the best position to evaluate if this will affect your friendship, both from your side and theirs . An iPhone screen is not worth ruining a friendship over
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So tell him. If it was me id be like "oh **** sorry! find out how much it costs to replace and ill sort it". If he didnt say that, then as I said you need to re-evaluate your friendship.

A friendship is worth £100 ?
 
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A few years ago, my friend knocked a can of beer all over my MacBook Pro. Well, more specifically, passed me an upside-down already open beer when I didn't ask him to, and it bubbled all over the keyboard. Heartbreaking, seeing as I take great care with it. :(

I got it repaired and he paid for that. It was his stupid fault. Of course he'd pay for it. Why should I? Clumsy blubbering fool of a took.

I just said: "it's having these issues after you dumped beer all over it. It'll cost this much."

Mind you, we've known each other for a decade, so it's easier to be a little blunt.
 
A few years ago, my friend knocked a can of beer all over my MacBook Pro. Well, more specifically, passed me an upside-down already open beer when I didn't ask him to, and it bubbled all over the keyboard. Heartbreaking, seeing as I take great care with it. :(

I got it repaired and he paid for that. It was his stupid fault. Of course he'd pay for it. Why should I? Clumsy blubbering fool of a took.

I just said: "it's having these issues after you dumped beer all over it. It'll cost this much."

Mind you, we've known each other for a decade, so it's easier to be a little blunt.
Thats a terrible story....

I hate to hear of wasted beer!;)
 
I think it depends on if your friend is in the position to foot the bill. If he can cover it no problem then he should be expected to if he is truly a friend. If it would put him in a bad position financially to cover the cost then I would suggest that you, as his friend, not put him in that position. In that case try to work something else out. Maybe go half, have him pay you in installments, etc.
 
Well I for one am now hooked on this tale, and can't wait to hear the outcome.
Who pays ?
Are they still friends ?

Don't keep me waiting too long !
Yes, I am waiting the outcome as well.

Did he tell the friend?
Did the friend buck up and pay?
Are they still friends?
Is the iPhone fixed?
 
I think you are in the best position to evaluate if this will affect your friendship, both from your side and theirs . An iPhone screen is not worth ruining a friendship over
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A friendship is worth £100 ?

£100 now... and what next? "can i borrow you car"? think about the future, not just the now. The actions of now will have emphasis on the future.
 
£100 now... and what next? "can i borrow you car"? think about the future, not just the now. The actions of now will have emphasis on the future.
This is a small price to pay to know what boundaries to place on his friendship with this person. If his friend cannot pay for an iPhone screen he now knows not to lend him his car, money, etc. Doesn't mean they can't continue to be friends with those boundaries in place though.
 
This is a small price to pay to know what boundaries to place on his friendship with this person. If his friend cannot pay for an iPhone screen he now knows not to lend him his car, money, etc. Doesn't mean they can't continue to be friends with those boundaries in place though.

So he becomes a level 2 friend? Thats cool. Best friend. Close friends. Friends. Associates.
 
£100 now... and what next? "can i borrow you car"? think about the future, not just the now. The actions of now will have emphasis on the future.

Given it was an accident , im not sure this will lead to the friend taking the piss.

At the end of the day only the OP can make is judgement call as they know them, he can let it slide, he can ask for repair costs etc. Each case is unique , though if I knew a friend was not in a position to pay, and they were a close friend, I would not let this get in the way of our friendship.
 
Given it was an accident , im not sure this will lead to the friend taking the piss.

At the end of the day only the OP can make is judgement call as they know them, he can let it slide, he can ask for repair costs etc. Each case is unique , though if I knew a friend was not in a position to pay, and they were a close friend, I would not let this get in the way of our friendship.

Yea there are a number of factors that we don't know about, such as friends history, time of friendship, the EXACT sequence of events etc.

And we still have not been updated! This is becoming an interesting topic.

Also, since nobody else has said it yet, this thread is nothing without pictures!!! I want to see the phone, the owner and the friend. The establishment where the alleged incident took place!

Come on OP!
 
You probably said something to the effect of "oh it's just the screen protector, don't worry about it..." when it happened right? So he's like oh, ok, sorry man. At least it's just that.

Now you're going to come back to him when he's sober and be like nope, it's the screen, pay up!

Did you say something hilarious before you handed it to him like "Don't break this."
 
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One more reason why I don't let people touch my phone. If they use the excuse that their phone is dead, I'll lend them my powerbank instead.
 
And? What was the outcome, if anything?
This girl had already dropped her phone, cracked the glass and inside lcd and the lcd had bleed, having been frustrated, she gave me the phone (big mistake holding onto the phone) i dropped it while it was in my pocket and wanting to grab my phone, when I dropped it, she didn't see, and i wanted to be honest, so i told her, she started getting mad, and claimed it was worse, when it was already cracked. Told her that, and she claimed that she'll find me and make me pay. Knowing the lcd's don't heal themselves, i told her it isn't my fault (knowing that it wasn't any worse) since she was the person giving it to me when i didn't even ask. She paid for all of it.
 
This girl had already dropped her phone, cracked the glass and inside lcd and the lcd had bleed, having been frustrated, she gave me the phone (big mistake holding onto the phone) i dropped it while it was in my pocket and wanting to grab my phone, when I dropped it, she didn't see, and i wanted to be honest, so i told her, she started getting mad, and claimed it was worse, when it was already cracked. Told her that, and she claimed that she'll find me and make me pay. Knowing the lcd's don't heal themselves, i told her it isn't my fault (knowing that it wasn't any worse) since she was the person giving it to me when i didn't even ask. She paid for all of it.
Ew, what a bit of a mess.
 
Yes, I am waiting the outcome as well.

Did he tell the friend?
Did the friend buck up and pay?
Are they still friends?
Is the iPhone fixed?

Yea there are a number of factors that we don't know about, such as friends history, time of friendship, the EXACT sequence of events etc.

And we still have not been updated! This is becoming an interesting topic.

Also, since nobody else has said it yet, this thread is nothing without pictures!!! I want to see the phone, the owner and the friend. The establishment where the alleged incident took place!

Come on OP!

Sorry for the delay guys....To be honest, when people initially said they were interested to find out what happened, I thought I was just being trolled, as there have been some negative feedback in/about the thread.

So glad to hear that you're actually interested!

Yes I told my mate as soon as I realised that it wasn't just the screen protector and was in fact my screen.
He offered to pay, but kind of apprehensively. He has a cracked screen on his iphone, and didn't get it fixed as he thought it was too much money. Not that he's broke, but still a lot of money to him. I said not to worry about paying me, as I decided to hold out until the iPhone 7 in September which I was going to skip before the cracked screen. My plan allows me to upgrade after 12months for $150. I have to give the old phone back to activate the trade-in, so I said that if my Telco doesn't accept the phone with a cracked screen, then he'll have to pay to fix it before I trade in.

Its not a big deal in the end now that I've calmed down, and no point straining friendships over...
 
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