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More Analysts Expect mmWave iPhones to Launch Later Than Sub-6GHz Models

itsmilo said:
Don’t really care to be honest. My country still needs to role out LTE nationwide lol and offer unlimited data at reasonable pricing. The whole 10 GB limit for 50 € BS needs to end.

The amount of time I see the edge sign in Germany is just redic.
I mean, I had full LTE in the middle of nowhere in the mountain region of Mexico

Edit: ironically it just took me 3 minutes to send this message because this was shown in the middle of Berlin:
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Making good coverage in rural and urban areas are very different things. Rural area can have a single 700MHz cover tens of km2’s, but will throttle, when there’s more than a dozen users...
 
In my region, I found manually switching to 3G/HSDPA are significantly faster rather than LTE/4G…probably 3G/HSDPA is less crowded when everyone seems in 4G/LTE coverage.
 
I call BS on this article....

Apple tries to maintain device performance parity across its carriers (at least in the USA) as much as possible. That's why the Qualcomm Modems were intentionally detuned so that they didn't outperform the Intel Modems. We all remember that, right?

Verizon's currently deployed 5G network is mmWave: https://www.verizon.com/about/our-company/5g/understanding-5g-spectrum

AT&T's currently deployed 5G network is a combination of low-band and mmWave: https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/at-t-to-launch-5g-for-consumers-using-low-band-850-mhz-spectrum https://about.att.com/story/2020/spectrum_auction_103.html

T-Mobile's (Sprint) currently deployed 5G network is a combination of low-band (T-Mobile's 600 MHz), mid-band (Sprint's 2.5 GHz) and mmWave (T-Mobile/Sprint both own some): https://www.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-sprint-deal-gives-us-first-look-at-a-full-5g-picture/

Apple either will ship mmWave 5G enabled iPhones this year, or it won't ship 5G devices at all.

I believe they will ship them.
 
Rovank said:
"By comparison, sub-6GHz 5G is generally slower than mmWave, but the signals travel further, better serving suburban and rural areas."

Electromagnetic radiation travels at the speed of light. The speed doesn't change with the frequency, it's the amount of information that can be carried at the higher frequency that makes the difference.
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Thank you for another example of the fallacy of equivocation. Yes, electromagnetic radiation travels at the speed of light. And by your reasoning above, 5G, 4G, 3G, and 2G are all equally "fast." So when your carrier throttles your connection from 4G to 2G, it "technically" isn't any "slower," because your phone is still communicating with the network at the speed of light. (The carrier's marketers and lawyers would love to be able to use that reasoning.)

You obfuscated the discussion by equivocating the wave propagation "speed" of electromagnetic radiation (the speed of light) with data signalling/transfer "speed" (bits per second). While your comments might be technically true, they definitely are not helpful.
 
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itsmilo said:
There is a frequency bidding war between the different providers before a new technology comes along which costs them a lot of money and they obviously want to make that money back somehow.

then there are those small towns and neighbors that think they will get cancer so they sign any petition they can find to stop new towers from being build. I mean even in the UK people are destroying 5G towers, thinking they cause corona virus.

It might not seem so bad if you live in the City and don’t Travel a lot or if you avoid the provider o2 like a plague but yes it’s not as it should be.

At my parents small town I turn my phone into flight mode and only use WiFi cuz there is no phone service unless you stand by the window in a specific corner. Recently I asked my sister if it doesn’t bother her and she’s like „no we have a home line and WiFi at home“ and I am like ???? But you r not home 24/7
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Oh no, what a huge mess!
 
modernmeat said:
iPhone 12 (5.4")
iPhone 12 Max (6.1")
iPhone 12 Pro [5G] (5.7")
iPhone 12 Pro Max [5G] (6.7")
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iPhone 12 Pro Lite (5.4")
iPhone 12 Pro Lite Max (6.1")
iPhone 12 Pro [5G] (5.7")
iPhone 12 Pro Max [5G] (6.7")
 
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modernmeat said:
iPhone 12 (5.4")
iPhone 12 Max (6.1")
iPhone 12 Pro [5G] (5.7")
iPhone 12 Pro Max [5G] (6.7")
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will I realy have to go for a pro to get 5G? rip bank balace :( And before anyone says just wait one more year, sadly that is not an option my 6 is slowly dying, and I plan to keep the one I purcgase this fall for 4 years
 
www.pcmag.com

COVID-19 Isn't Stopping Verizon's 5G Rollout

Locked-down cities present some challenges, but the carrier says it will have 60 cities online by the end of the year.
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Looks like Verizon will make substantial progress on deploying its mmWave 5G this year.

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Verizon will also get mid-band 5G using dynamic spectrum sharing, splitting existing frequency bands with 4G, "probably during the third quarter of this year," Hemmer says.
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In order for Apple to maintain carrier device/performance parity (in the USA), this year's iPhone will have to have mmWave support as a result.
 
IPPlanMan said:
www.pcmag.com

COVID-19 Isn't Stopping Verizon's 5G Rollout

Locked-down cities present some challenges, but the carrier says it will have 60 cities online by the end of the year.
www.pcmag.com www.pcmag.com

Looks like Verizon will make substantial progress on deploying its mmWave 5G this year.

Also:



In order for Apple to maintain carrier device/performance parity (in the USA), this year's iPhone will have to have mmWave support as a result.
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Isn’t there a C Band auction coming in December?
 
bn-7bc said:
will I realy have to go for a pro to get 5G? rip bank balace :( And before anyone says just wait one more year, sadly that is not an option my 6 is slowly dying, and I plan to keep the one I purcgase this fall for 4 years
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I’d like to have a tele lens many times more than 5g. But I have an iP11.
Where do you need 5g in phone? To feed your whole family a gigabit internet?
 
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