EricNau said:
And I'd never get one if it was only through Verizon or Cingular... only Sprint carries a decent signal, around here.
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And I'd never get one if it was only through Verizon or Cingular... only Sprint carries a decent signal, around here.
Macnoviz
macrumors 65816
I definitly need a cellphone in the next year (my 4 broke of, and I have to use a pencil) so, but I will try to hold of until more news arrives.
My ideal iPhone would be available in Belgium, have total sync possibilities, camera, BT, WiFi and the usual smartphone stuff.
I only hope the price will stay beneath 500😀
My ideal iPhone would be available in Belgium, have total sync possibilities, camera, BT, WiFi and the usual smartphone stuff.
I only hope the price will stay beneath 500😀
macdong
macrumors 6502
Aeolius said:
exactly, i wouldn't get it if it doesn't work with T-Mobile, either.
if Apple does come up with an iPhone, its primary market will be Apple users, which is already a relatively small market.
so either Apple has to make their iPhone work with every single carrier (no carrier is perfect everywhere), or they'll have to come up with something alternative.
I'm still waiting for a phone that can keep up with what they have in Japan. With a one year contract I got a free phone that had a 2 megapixel camera(amongst many other features). That was almost 2 years ago! They have great style, amazing software, tons of features. Just look at some of the latest phones out there now. Check out the FOMA line.
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/product/
check out this one
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/product/foma/900i/f900it/index.html
hmmm, maybe all the touch patents are for the phone?
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/product/
check out this one
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/product/foma/900i/f900it/index.html
hmmm, maybe all the touch patents are for the phone?
GilGrissom
macrumors 65816
Absolutely!Jaffa Cake said:
Yes. MVNO''s right? We've all heard rumours about Apple setting up their own MVNO over the past year...maybe this is linked?Jaffa Cake said:
Also...sorry for anyone who has already mentioned this and I've missed it, but what about a VOIP phone, for use with Skype, or their new future VOIP version of iChat??? Wi-Fi enabled VOIP phone? Much like this upcoming one from Netgear??
http://tools.netgear.com/skype/
samh004
macrumors 68020
If they do, I hope it doesn't look anything like some of those warped concepts. A scroll wheel on a phone wouldn't be of any use...
This whole idea reminds me of a B&O phone, it's really nice and slim, looks great, but because of it's shape the numbers are all out of place and it's very impractical. This is, unfortunately, how Apple would probably go, using a click-wheel or some funny arrangement, just wont cut it.
It has to be practical, use a normal keypad, but the keys have to be easily accessible (some phone they aren't that great). In this day and age I'd expect a camera, I'd expect BT, I'd expect a lot of things.. I just hope Apple's iPod hasn't clouded their judgement and ultimately left a really bad design (it should be a phone with iPod capabilities, not the other way around).
This whole idea reminds me of a B&O phone, it's really nice and slim, looks great, but because of it's shape the numbers are all out of place and it's very impractical. This is, unfortunately, how Apple would probably go, using a click-wheel or some funny arrangement, just wont cut it.
It has to be practical, use a normal keypad, but the keys have to be easily accessible (some phone they aren't that great). In this day and age I'd expect a camera, I'd expect BT, I'd expect a lot of things.. I just hope Apple's iPod hasn't clouded their judgement and ultimately left a really bad design (it should be a phone with iPod capabilities, not the other way around).
cyberddot
macrumors 6502
As I understand it from friends, the only carrier with good coverage in rural Oregon is Verizon. Because of this, I guess I've always known an iPhone isn't going to be worth the wait. 😡 I've been resistant to getting a cell phone, but work may require that I tune-in soon. Looks like a prepaid and my iPod will have to do until Jobs figures out a way to purchase Verizon 🙄
Jaffa Cake
macrumors Core
That's right – it's a system that's worked very well for Virgin, here in the UK at least. I can imagine the mobile phone market is one Apple would very much like to get into, becoming a MVNO would certainly help cut out a lot of obstacles.Gil_Grissom said:
Jaffa Cake said:
unfortunately those terms are really vague, or at least they don't really indicate where apple is in the design process. you can be in talks about general designs at a very early stage of the game.
sometimes the OEM/ODM will help the designers with pre-built components that they have in order to reduce time to market and BOM. sometimes the designer has a very specific design and it requires the OEM/ODM to create new lines for fabrication.
the other thing to consider with a cell phone is not only the design and manufacturing timelines, but it must also pass FCC certification for use in the united states. as i understand it that's not entirely easy.
taking the anecdotal statements at face value, apple could theoretically have something out by the end of the year. my best guess they would have to have a manufacturer in place and ready to go by the end of the month, no later.
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my worry about this: apple's transition to intel is a big, big effort not to mention leopard development. then add in the escalating media offerings from itunes. an iphone and potential MVNO would be a massive distraction with no proven market for phones, no experience in the market and the shady dealings of the network carriers. if anyone can turn an industry on its head it's apple, but it's a big task.
i'd happily pick up an iphone if it has great looks; but more importantly a perfected OS.
i'm sick of phones that have menus and thought put into them that are right out of 1997. even motorola has some neat looking phones, but using them; thats something else.
i'm sick of phones that have menus and thought put into them that are right out of 1997. even motorola has some neat looking phones, but using them; thats something else.
An iPhone?
People of Macrumors.com. I have watched this forum forever. Some of these rumors are just outrageous and hurt ongoing efforts for people interested in Apple products. Maybe I can help with what I know and well, what really is not for everyone to know.
Can Apple compete with Nokia,Sony Ericsson or Samsung? No. Don't kid yourself, the trends of mobile phones will need to be tried and trusted in European markets before the USA sees something happen. Apple has NO platform or has not spent the years that the above companies have in this field. Offering a phone would be not only difficult but technology wise, Apple just don't have the R&D infrastructure to support an ongoing effort.
What WILL be possible?
1. Smaller Macbook's (debuting soon)
2. Personal assistance devices for internet (Mobile Me devices) (the opportunity to buy music through WIFI,surf the web,check on your email, ect.)
3. Better OS technolgies in Leopard (My Way applications)
What will NOT be possible (or is on any corporate roadmaps)?
1. Mobile phones (or PDA devices)
2. Entertainment boxes (games machines,DVR)
3. Wifi with video feed
What is the big talk in boardrooms?
The offering of OSX Leopard to be sold for OEM manufactors on non-Apple hardware to increase the OS market share. The shift to intel was to help ease the burden of backlash from consumers. While the Apple hardware will provide unique features (OS and hardware related, such as touchscreen specific) generic PC's will not, it will be the OS that will lead the way however.
The iPod will recieve support from movie houses such as Disney and Universal. There will be no knew video iPod, the content is being written for the current iPod. There IS a prototype (1 of many) that exists, but it was scrapped for the direction of Mobile Me devices.
Apple wants to please everybody and it is a tough to do, so it must follow market trends.
There you have it. Spilled in all its glory for the few interested.
People of Macrumors.com. I have watched this forum forever. Some of these rumors are just outrageous and hurt ongoing efforts for people interested in Apple products. Maybe I can help with what I know and well, what really is not for everyone to know.
Can Apple compete with Nokia,Sony Ericsson or Samsung? No. Don't kid yourself, the trends of mobile phones will need to be tried and trusted in European markets before the USA sees something happen. Apple has NO platform or has not spent the years that the above companies have in this field. Offering a phone would be not only difficult but technology wise, Apple just don't have the R&D infrastructure to support an ongoing effort.
What WILL be possible?
1. Smaller Macbook's (debuting soon)
2. Personal assistance devices for internet (Mobile Me devices) (the opportunity to buy music through WIFI,surf the web,check on your email, ect.)
3. Better OS technolgies in Leopard (My Way applications)
What will NOT be possible (or is on any corporate roadmaps)?
1. Mobile phones (or PDA devices)
2. Entertainment boxes (games machines,DVR)
3. Wifi with video feed
What is the big talk in boardrooms?
The offering of OSX Leopard to be sold for OEM manufactors on non-Apple hardware to increase the OS market share. The shift to intel was to help ease the burden of backlash from consumers. While the Apple hardware will provide unique features (OS and hardware related, such as touchscreen specific) generic PC's will not, it will be the OS that will lead the way however.
The iPod will recieve support from movie houses such as Disney and Universal. There will be no knew video iPod, the content is being written for the current iPod. There IS a prototype (1 of many) that exists, but it was scrapped for the direction of Mobile Me devices.
Apple wants to please everybody and it is a tough to do, so it must follow market trends.
There you have it. Spilled in all its glory for the few interested.
yankeefan24
macrumors 65816
Swatchman said:
1. how's that different from a PDA-type thing?
2. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IN THE BOARDROOMS?
3. i think it would be hard for apple but would help. but that could only reduce apple's hardware market share which is bad🙁
yankeefan24 said:
1. It is a Mobile Me device in the same direction as Samsungs portables announced (in conjuction with Microsoft software) and Nokias internet tablet directive.
2. Well, you need to be in the boardroom right?
3. It is not as hard for Apple as it is for consumers. It's marketing that deals with the initiative to promote it to the mass public appeal. It has been the direction since development of OSX began. We had the OS for intel in the beginning but it is a slow process to offer it on such a different consumer space.
Mac Fly (film)
macrumors 68040
I think it's only a matter of time, that's not to say it will happen this year!
I know one thing though, if one comes out....I'll own one😀
I know one thing though, if one comes out....I'll own one😀
Jaffa Cake
macrumors Core
EricNau
Moderator emeritus
Swatchman said:
I think Apple can compete with any of those brands. Everyone loves their iPod, and if Apple introduced a cell phone that was a full-featured iPod also, people would love it. Now, instead of carrying around a cell phone and an iPod, you can just carry around an "iPhone."
And about the research...
Apple can learn from other companies research. Apple knows which phones are selling well (e.g. RAZR) and then all they have to do it copy it while making it better.
yankeefan24
macrumors 65816
Jaffa Cake said:
he wouldn't expose himself that easily. i am more likely to be steve than him😉 i think.
After the iPod Hi-Fi fiasco...
... I hope there won't come a iPhone disaster. If Apple really comes up with a iPod+Phone this better is real good.
... I hope there won't come a iPhone disaster. If Apple really comes up with a iPod+Phone this better is real good.
YoNeX
macrumors regular
I could really see Apple making us use the vintage phone dialing thingy. Just think about it, click wheel, exactly the same idea as those vintage phones! 😱 It would eliminate the need for numbers, so you would essentially have a phone that looks like an iPod, except with all the features of a phone.
How plausiable is this? 😀 Waits for a GFX artists to mock this up (please 🙂)
How plausiable is this? 😀 Waits for a GFX artists to mock this up (please 🙂)
It will be a Vonage style phone. It will work via .mac. It will replace your home phone, and also work from wireless hotspots. It won't be on a major network like verizon. They are greedy and want a huge chunk of the download business. So it will be wifi based. You will be able to keep your current home #, because these are now portable by law. Just buy the phone and cross off your home phone bill if you are a .mac member. And to boot, when you travel you can use it at hotspots. Oh, it has a camera, you can video chat with it.
I'm good, no?
I'm good, no?
Electro Funk
macrumors 65816
kenzbud said:
I have already relplaced my Treo 650 with a Sprint PPC 6700 with Windows mobile 5.0 😱
Would love to toss it in the trash for an apple portable phone device...
but like others have stated... it would have to sync with contacts/mail/notes...etc i dont really care about music on the phone, but if they add that, all the better... would also have to be able to term set to my desktop @ the office pc's or the macs at home! Oh yeah and sync directly with exchange server 2001-2003 😛
Then im sold...😀
solvs
macrumors 603
I would love to buy one to replace my ROKR. Knowing Apple though it'll be about a hundred dollars too expensive and everyone will complain about it even though they'll sell a million of them. It'll have a great camera, but it won't have a ton of megapixels so people will complain. It'll only play about a thousand or so songs people will complain. And a bunch of other things that we're rumored but aren't in the actual product so people will be disappointed and complain.
I'm waiting for Rev. 2 though because I here it's better. 😛
I'm waiting for Rev. 2 though because I here it's better. 😛