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The margin for iMacs is much larger than for the Cinema Display.
I think they'll go iMac first because they can sell them for more money.

I can also think of a smaller iMac being Retina, but I'd rather not buy any of those.

I don't see Apple doing a Quad HD 21.5" iMac without doing a 5120x2880 pixel 27" iMac also.

That would be a terrible choice to make when purchasing, more pixels on a smaller machine, or a bigger screen (and more desktop space), but no improvement in display technology?
 
Unless the new iMacs do away with the glossy screens (I highly doubt that) I will pass and wait for the next Mac minis.

I also hate the glossy screens, but I have had a go on a Retina MBP and it is a big improvement. I think I could live with it.

While playing with the rMBP, I tried the different resolution settings. The very high resolution allows the display to still look very clear while offering a choice of work areas. This has obvious benefits for laptop users who can expand their work space, but it would also be good on an iMac for those with poor eyesight who can have everything larger by reducing the work space. A much better solution than the accessibility options currently available.

EDIT: The quote below appear after I started writing my post. It backs up what I was saying about the advantages of being able to change the work space while maintaining quality using Retina.

Most complain that the 27" iMac strains their eyes, because the DPI is too small to be viewed comfortably, unless they stick their face in the screen.
 
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Starting to feel a bit sceptical about this 'retina' stuff.

Having seen a rMBP, yes, the text is sharper but as I generally don't have my face pressed to my laptop screen it's nowhere near as dramatic as with the iPhone 3-4 or even the iPad 2-3.

Web images are effectively 'uprezzed' and are arguably worse on retina. Photographs in iPhoto didn't seem dramatically improved.

So working the GPU really hard for little apparent gain.

THIS.

Retina on a mobile device? Yes please.

Retina on a laptop/desktop: I need a reason for this. IMHO, anyone working close enough to a laptop screen to be able to make out the pixels is doing it wrong.

The jump in image quality from the older matte LCD screens to the LED was monumental. This is...not.
 
Damn, people still buy desktops these days? I went straight laptops the past 4 years and haven't missed a desktop yet.

Believe it or not, there are people that use computers for work that requires more power than a laptop can provide.
 
That Obama animated gif in this thread is a good match for how people feel about the delay. Apple predicts 90% of it's customers to be on laptops. I saw that in a Steve Jobs interview. Not updating the desktops will help achieve that goal. It would be nice if the iMacs were refreshed like the Macbook Pros this month.
 
This just in.
Chicago, Il

You're an idiot!!!

This waiting is getting very old. Why is it that Apple is the only company out there that can get away with this non shallont attitude. This wouldn't be happening if Steve were alive. He had a way of cracking the whip and making his employees do the impossible. Seeing that many of Apples un replaceable execs are starting to leave leads me to believe that perhaps they are losing faith in Tim Cook. I listened to an interview in which Steve Jobs stated that he was able to advance a product by as much as 3 months when nobody else at apple thought it was possible by psychologically dealing with every member of them team in a different way. It's a technique that Tim Cook is obviously unable to pull off. If he were pushing all the right buttons with the supply chain and his own design teams we would all have our new Macs.

I believe that whomever at Apple is responsible for the IMac line should be fired. Obviously he's not doing his job.

Non Challont is great in garlic butter.
 
I don't think these claims hold any value.. I think It makes more sense for us to see new iMacs and Mac Mini's the day Mountain Lion is launched..

There doesn't seem to be any new hardware coming out either, Ivy-Bridge is already available, we have the latest offerings from Nvidia (Kepler) and AMD with the 7000 Series which were recently released..

The only thing I can think of is a possible redesign.. Retina display doesn't seem possible as we all already know that even with the Macbook Pro Retina, Apple is pushing the hardware boundaries, doesn't seem plausible at this time to have Retina displays on iMacs..
 
This just in:

Cupertino, CA:

Tim Cook states he is personally crushed by consumers buying a non-apple products.

Quote: We understand that not everybody is patient enough to wait for all the exciting items we have in the pipeline.

Although a funny reply, I and a lot of other people here are more than frustrated over Apple's extreme slowness in releasing Desktops in a timely fashion...especially this time 'round with almost a 2 year wait on the iMac.

And as others stated, I'm not paying the full, 100% price on July 3, 2012 that was the the same price 1.5 years ago on the exact same computer. Apple can find some other sucker.
 
Interesting.

I currently have the 3.4GHz i7 model with 12GB of RAM and a AMD Radeon 6970m with the 2GB of VRAM. If this is a big update to the iMac, I might have to sell mine and try out the new ones :)
 
Post corrected in respect of people so gentle to make me figure out how unable i was to talk with native people.
Thanks for the lesson.
 
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Although a funny reply, I and a lot of other people here are more than frustrated over Apple's extreme slowness in releasing Desktops in a timely fashion...especially this time 'round with almost a 2 year wait on the iMac.

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Two year wait? It's only been a year and one month.
 
Not about the screen

I believe this delay is about getting some of the old sandy bridge intel chips out of the pipeline. Has anybody besides me noticed, 1) Intel delayed the announcement of sandy bridge for that reason. 2) when one searches retailers and manufacturers they have very few computers with the 3rd gen chips available, and all are awesomely expensive. Tiger Direct has only 8 or 10 models available. I think Intel forced manufacturers to purchase huge quantities of sandy bridge to facilitate cash flow and to get discounts to be competitive. Nobody in the PC world can afford to dump a lot of outdated systems to get the new chips in the pipeline, they are already eating it in netbooks, and their profits are consistently down all across the board. Only apple is shipping their overpriced laptop toys in any quantity. I say that because my MacBook pro just died after 4 years, cost me more than $500 a year. I replaced it with a $400 17" AMD A6 and my iPad. It's amazing how close one can match the functionality of a Mac with windows 7. And btw, Microsoft now offers free malware protection, malware does not seem to be the problem it was a couple of years ago, and yes, I have cleaned up a thousand PC's in my day.
 
I probably won't buy another Mac until they offer better GPUs. I want to get rid of my PC, but can't do that with their out-of-date (and highly overpriced) "upgrades" for my Mac Pro. I'll stick it out with my 3,1 until it turns into dust and game on my custom system. I just want a card that's mildly comprable to what's on the market.

GPU selection is definitely Apple's weak point across the line, especially since they have no low end systems with PCI expansion. Thunderbolt should have been able to fix this, but they are really dragging their feet on getting OSX to support external GPU's over TB. Stupidly pathetic that this can be done in Windows running under Boot Camp on a Mac, but not in OSX on the same machine. And how hard can it be to build an external PCI chassis? Should have been available as soon as TB machine were out.
 
If there isn't a retina diplay and/or redesign for this hypothetical october refresh, then you have to wonder why they weren't updated last month...

well, if you look at the iphone 5 rumors. they launch with the same design on october and it is rumored that apple can't make the thin & 4 inch because of production troubles, so i'm guessing if on october we don't see the retina imac, apple are going with plan b, which is cpu/gpu upgrade, usb3 and new thunderbolt chip using the same imac design.
 
A Retina Display on an iMac simply wouldn't work well given the type of GPUs that are usually used on the iMac. Although, if Apple offered an External GPU utilizing one of the high-end cards in the market....:rolleyes:
 
Sick of apples games. Will be ordering a 27" iMac this week.

Give it till the end of the month if you can. If you can't wait and NEED one, the current model is a beautiful computer. If you view this as Apple playing games, you might be doing what they want by getting frustrated and helping them clear their old stock. Either way you decide to go you will have a wonderful new iMac waiting for you.
 
Everything Apple does lately seems to be slow, late and out of date! Money sitting ready to buy an "updated" Mac Pro, iMac, iphone 5 and all I have to do is wait, and wait and wait.......
 
As Apple has turned itself into an iToy company about the only Macs that they seem interested in is the smaller laptops. The 17" laptop was cut because it was too big to be small & pretty. The Mac Pro has gone longer than the iMac without a change. It is now 2 years since the Mac Pro was updated so the iMac has a long time to go before that happens.

With the above info does this mean that the iMac is just treading water like the Mac Pro is? Will the Mac Pro update ever happen? Because this is a rumor about the iMac the question is really is the iMac EOL, will it be carried on on life support like the Mac Pro, or they just get rid of it? A 27" TV resolution screen while 10% shorter than a 16:10 computer screen is is really too big to ever be small & pretty. With Apple's current warped viewpoint when it comes to the use of small & pretty over making the size be big enough to make the best computer that can be made.

I buy my Macs inspite of their shortcomings not because of them. A couple of weeks ago I purchased 2 new 17" Mac laptops. I had to pay new prices even though they have last generation parts. It seems that small & pretty doesn't include the 17" model. So while I feel for those of you that what or need a new iMac or Mac Mini for that part I have little to look forward too. No new 17" so thus no ve iMac.
 
If you view this as Apple playing games

They aren't playing games, they are ignoring a smaller market segment that is quickly becoming a niche segment.

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With the above info does this mean that the iMac is just treading water like the Mac Pro is?

Yes, exactly. tread water until you can ween everyone on to portables.
 
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