More Claims of Samsung Being Cut Out of Apple's A7 Chip Development

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The Korea Times reports that Samsung has been excluded from Apple's plans for its next-generation A7 system-on-a-chip expected to be released next year to power upcoming iOS devices. According to the report, Apple is moving forward with plans to shift production to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC).
    Other sources report that Samsung is hoping its own handsets can fill the gap to be left by Apple, as the firm has made significant investments in its processor production facilities, but that some lines may have to be shut down. Samsung is also seeking to increase its work producing graphics chips for NVIDIA.

    The report follows similar claims from Taiwanese media last week, which indicated that Apple and TSMC were pushing forward on a 20-nm A7 design for launch early next year. Last month it was reported that Apple and TSMC had taped out a design for the A7, although considerable work remains before the chip will enter production.

    With Apple's 20-nm A7 not expected until next year, it appears that the company's 2013 iOS device lineup will have to make use of other alternatives such as a die shrink of the current A6 chip from 32-nm to 28-nm or a more substantially reworked A6 chip. Apple could conceivably also have a new "A7" chip ready to go at 28-nm ahead of the move to the smaller and more efficient 20-nm process node next year.

    Article Link: More Claims of Samsung Being Cut Out of Apple's A7 Chip Development
  2. George Knighton macrumors 65816

    George Knighton

    Oct 13, 2010
    Makes sense.
  3. TWSS37 macrumors 65816

    Feb 4, 2011
    The move to TMSC from Samsung will surely make Safari snappier.
  4. vmachiel macrumors 68000

    Feb 15, 2011
  5. BornAgainApple macrumors 6502a


    Jun 9, 2009
    Good for :apple: I doubt Samsung is too concerned though. They'll be busy keeping up with the S4 demand.
  6. powers74 macrumors 68000


    Aug 18, 2008
    At the bend in the river
  7. Taz Mangus macrumors 68040

    Taz Mangus

    Mar 10, 2011
    Good for Apple for diversifying its suppliers.
  8. DipDog3 macrumors 65816


    Sep 20, 2002
    Long overdue.

    Stop giving your competitors all of your secrets.
  9. Hail Caesar macrumors regular

    Mar 2, 2013
  10. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    You have to be joking? After all the investment Samsung out in? Having several production lines come to a complete stop is bad for business. You have workers on payroll but you are not producing anything. This will affect Samsung. How much, we'll never know. But it is cause for their concern. Although it poetic justice as they were biting the hand that was feeding them.
  11. bwillwall macrumors 6502a


    Dec 24, 2009
    Thank the LORD thank the LORD praise jesus praise jesus thank the LORD
  12. newagemac, Apr 10, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2013

    newagemac macrumors 68020

    Mar 31, 2010
    About time. Never made any sense to reveal your plans ahead of time to your competitors like that. This is going to hit Samsung pretty hard. Serves them right too. And competition is good so this is great for consumers as well. Would love to see TSMC continue growing to be a major competitor to Samsung in the chip manufacturing business.

    I don't like Samsung as a company because of their CEO convict and corrupt business practices so I would love to see there stuff removed from devices I purchase as much as possible. Don't really like any of their products either. Samsung makes great dishwashers though. My grandmother swears by them and lots of middle-aged to old women like Samsung products.
  13. Tankmaze macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2012
    this back and forth rumor about the a7 chip supplier,
    many user won't care regarding this vendor / supplier politics.

    I just hope iOS 7 will be up to par to everyone's expectation.
  14. troop231 macrumors 603

    Jan 20, 2010
    It's good indeed :p

  15. Mr Fusion macrumors 6502a

    Mr Fusion

    May 7, 2007
    I was hoping the childish behavior would end with Steve...

    If Samsung was a good part supplier, use them.

    If Apple took care of their own house by continuing to be creative and innovate, they wouldn't have to worry about Samsung. Honestly I don't know why they'd worry about Samsung in the first place. Their phones run Android. Android is garbage that looks and feels like a middle school kid coded it during 5th period.

    I feel like so many of Apple's "problems" have arisen because they have tried to appeal to the masses. They didn't earn that stockpile of cash by following, but by leading.

    Get back to the basics and quit with the ******* games.

    /end rant. :cool:
  16. BornAgainApple, Apr 10, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2013

    BornAgainApple macrumors 6502a


    Jun 9, 2009
    They've seen this coming for months, if not years. I'm sure they've adapted by now. If they haven't, too bad. They'll survive.
  17. nutjob macrumors 6502a

    Feb 7, 2010
    Why are Apple still acting like children now that Steve Jobs is dead? Taking massive risks with moving production so that they can somehow "penalize" Samsung? Really, this is the stuff of schoolyards, not corporations.

    You only have to look at Samsung's own ARM offerings to see they are way ahead of Apple, and this won't help Apple catch up.
  18. NutsNGum macrumors 68030


    Jul 30, 2010
    Glasgow, Scotland
    If I create something incredible, then hand over the schematics to a company that is my primary competitor, am I being stupid?

  19. nazaar macrumors 6502a


    Oct 28, 2008
  20. Oletros macrumors 603


    Jul 27, 2009
    Premià de Mar
    Well, if it is substituting Samsung for TSMC they are not diverifying :D
  21. Taz Mangus macrumors 68040

    Taz Mangus

    Mar 10, 2011
    Apple has always done things there way. This is no different. It's a business move that Apple believes will be in their best interests. That is what corporations do. Besides diversify suppliers is a good thing.
  22. Radio macrumors 68000

    Mar 5, 2012
    Central California
    talk about haters

    samsung has done a commendable job with the chips.

    when did anyone here have issues with their cpus?

    that's right none.

    Thank you samsung.

    love you long time.
  23. Dwalls90 macrumors 601


    Feb 5, 2009
    Completely agreed.

    This will strike a huge blow to Samsung's component revenue.
  24. azentropy macrumors 68000


    Jul 19, 2002
    It is all how you spin it. I'm sure Samsung is spinning it as they were not interested in extending contract with Apple in order to be able to produce a higher capacity for their own phones.

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