I wonder if you you have the option to setup two factor security where you have to scan your finger and then enter a passcode.
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No, it's a serious question. I work for a very secret military facility and often carry secret information about weapon systems and attack plans on my iPhone. Now, if I use my fingerprint to unlock iPhone, terrorists can make a tiny autonomous quadrocopter to track down me, chop off my fingers while I'm sleeping, and then use a secret transporter technology to steel my iPhone. Then they will be able to use my fingers to access my Amazon account history!
It's a serious scenario! This fingerprint unlocking feature will never be pragmatic for me. It's way too dangerous. I'm sticking with my iPhone 3GS.
I sure hope you're not serious. Secret information should never be on a phone or any other type of mobile media without it being properly encrypted and / or controlled. FSO might have to have a talk with you.
To the people thinking that the NSA will now have your fingerprints and you'll be tracked...
1) You're assuming you are important enough that the NSA would care about you. You are nobody. NSA could care less about YOU.
2) Through various channels (police, customs), NSA probably has your fingerprint already.
To the people who think someone can now chop off your finger or lift your fingerprint off your coffee mug...
1) You watch too many spy movies
2) With a traditional password, someone could still access it by putting a gun to your head and asking you.
1) You're assuming you are important enough that the NSA would care about you. You are nobody. NSA could care less about YOU.
2) Through various channels (police, customs), NSA probably has your fingerprint already.
To the people who think someone can now chop off your finger or lift your fingerprint off your coffee mug...
1) You watch too many spy movies
2) With a traditional password, someone could still access it by putting a gun to your head and asking you.
If somebody chops off your finger, can they use it to unlock your iPhone?
It may nbot work with dead finger.
Becisdes..... why such a drama? Geee!!!
I suggest you use your left little finger, and activate the "erase after ten failed accesses" option...
That little fingerprint video tricked me. Saw it without sound. Thought you had to learn it 100 times, before it would accept your fingerprint. Im feeling a little stupid right know :-D
Was way to early in the morning for me :-D
Was way to early in the morning for me :-D
Why do yiu think police or rowdy friends can't force you and take your pass code and unlock the phone ?
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I think the terrorist must have already read your this comment here on macrumors too . Since you are too important for them they are already tracking you . Time to change to a nokia asha phone it can save your finger.
Why do yiu think police or rowdy friends can't force you and take your pass code and unlock the phone ?
Police: Any evidence obtained in that way would be totally inadmissible, and the police officer doing it would be in deep trouble.
Rowdy "friends": Friends are not going to take your passcode and unlock your phone. So we are talking about bullies here. I am quite sure that the laws that make hacking into computers a serious crime fully apply to the situation where unauthorised access to a computer is taken by force.
Of course that goes for passcode and fingerprint sensor in exactly the same way. And I'd say that the jealous partner unlocking your phone while you sleep would also be committing a serious offence. Which may produce an interesting situation if they find something and want a divorce and lots of your money.
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If that happened, all phone manufacturers would be forced to add fingerprint sensors as well.
As it is, I'm quite sure that Apple designed this so the phone is actually not capable of sending that information anywhere. You would have a chip with three functions:
1. Store fingerprint information from the sensor.
2. Erase fingerprint information.
3. Compare stored information with fingerprint information from the sensor.
No function to report the information.
So are cases now useless for the 5S?
I've always covered my iphone with a sturdy case. Right now I'm using Ballistic's case and it's saved me a couple of times when I've dropped it getting out of the truck.
I'm thinking that the fingerprint sensor now makes it impossible to use a strong case because you can't get your finger down to the sensor.
Anybody else thought about this? Thoughts?
I've always covered my iphone with a sturdy case. Right now I'm using Ballistic's case and it's saved me a couple of times when I've dropped it getting out of the truck.
I'm thinking that the fingerprint sensor now makes it impossible to use a strong case because you can't get your finger down to the sensor.
Anybody else thought about this? Thoughts?
For all you concerned about a thief forcing you to unlock your iphone or chopping off a finger, 3 points:
1. Thiefs do not force people to input their passcodes presently! What makes you think the fingerprint is any different.
2. A criminal content to chop off a finger? At this point, your phone is the least of your concerns. I'd be more worried about, credit cards/wallet/purse, murder, rape, etc.
3. Finally, Activation Lock. Standard on iOS7! Read up on it. This is the true theft deterrent. Once word hits the street that iPhones are useless with Activation Lock enabled, thefts of iPhones (iPhone picking) will take a nose dive!
4. I know I said 3 points, but whatever. If you're still not convinced...don't enable Touch ID and use the 5S like any other iPhone.
1. Thiefs do not force people to input their passcodes presently! What makes you think the fingerprint is any different.
2. A criminal content to chop off a finger? At this point, your phone is the least of your concerns. I'd be more worried about, credit cards/wallet/purse, murder, rape, etc.
3. Finally, Activation Lock. Standard on iOS7! Read up on it. This is the true theft deterrent. Once word hits the street that iPhones are useless with Activation Lock enabled, thefts of iPhones (iPhone picking) will take a nose dive!
4. I know I said 3 points, but whatever. If you're still not convinced...don't enable Touch ID and use the 5S like any other iPhone.
So we need an option to only have the finger print scanner active on during certain hours or the day (and with an additional time-out). That would reduce the risk of the at-sleep scenarios being played out.
On a timeout, or after these hours, a password would be required.
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On point 3, wrong if they've 'stolen' your finger (although hopefully that part will still required a passcode).
On a timeout, or after these hours, a password would be required.
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On point 3, wrong if they've 'stolen' your finger (although hopefully that part will still required a passcode).
Just curious what you think others offer in the way of innovation? Cause they are all pretty much the same these days. About the only one innovating is Nokia with that huge sensor although all that does is make crops good.
And I'm not sure I'd want anything bigger. The Samsungs are too big and you look like a dork using them.
Cases
What about lifeproof \ otter box cases that cover the home button to make your phone waterproof. I love my iPhone but can't afford to replace it every time I drop it (even with insurance). Will these companies be able to make a clear home button on their cases for the sensor to work?
What about lifeproof \ otter box cases that cover the home button to make your phone waterproof. I love my iPhone but can't afford to replace it every time I drop it (even with insurance). Will these companies be able to make a clear home button on their cases for the sensor to work?
But what if the bandit doesn't know a chopped off finger won't work. Keep this thread bookmarked and tell them to check it on the iPhone.
...and now the NSA has your fingerprints...
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Not unless you've been arrested or are not a US (or Canadian) citizen, then no, they won't.
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Not unless you've been arrested or are not a US (or Canadian) citizen, then no, they won't.
The NSA doesn't care about your fingerprints.
The FBI maintains the fingerprint database. US Customs and Border Patrol runs the immigration checkpoint.
Yeah, why should someone in Japan fear for their fingers?
Its not as if cutting fingers is a tradition over there.
Have a look.
I thought it was funny. But, for the other people out there that don't know any better, IT'S A JOKE.
The US government has very strict rules about handling and storing classified information. If you get caught storing it on an unapproved device (i.e. an iPhone), you can go to jail.
Anyone that actually has access to classified info knows this. And if it's REALLY secret, they can't even admit they have access.
Exactly, forcing someone to give up their passcode at least requires threat of harm, which the abuser might not follow through with for fear of evidence, whereas unlocking via Touch ID only requires some physical force to hold you down.
Finger Chop... yeah right.
This thread is so amusing.
How many people have chopped off a finger? I'm sure it's not that simple unless you're in the movies.
Chopping chicken bones isn't even that easy, I'm sure a finger is harder especially since the person will be fighting like crazy.
This is an odd planet...
This thread is so amusing.
How many people have chopped off a finger? I'm sure it's not that simple unless you're in the movies.
Chopping chicken bones isn't even that easy, I'm sure a finger is harder especially since the person will be fighting like crazy.
This is an odd planet...
On a college campus when students find a passed out student with an iPhone 5S then they can not only take photos of the student, they can now take them with his/her own phone and then email them to all his/her contacts...
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Exactly. I doubt that the technique behind is so good that there is no false negatives OR false positives. There will be stories about people being able to unlock someone else's 5S, only question is, how many?
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Apple says that any fingerprint data won't be transmitted from the phone, this also means that a rather interesting feature cant be added to the Find My iPhone service; after you have reported your 5S stolen, the phone would transmit any fingerprint data to Apple.
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Exactly. I doubt that the technique behind is so good that there is no false negatives OR false positives. There will be stories about people being able to unlock someone else's 5S, only question is, how many?
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Apple says that any fingerprint data won't be transmitted from the phone, this also means that a rather interesting feature cant be added to the Find My iPhone service; after you have reported your 5S stolen, the phone would transmit any fingerprint data to Apple.