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More Details on Jony Ive's Flat iOS 7 Design: Heavier on Black and White
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Natively you are correct but as I recall there were 3rd party apps rather early on for pano photos and they could precede Android support
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We aren't. There will be always be a level of Skeumo used in GUIs. It's just the extraneous and functionless stuff that will hopefully be gone (moving shadows, paper tears etc)
If it looks more like MS's online services (i.e. Outlook) this is a good thing. Looks a helluva lot better than iCloud services.
Love it! If iOS 7 resembles this then I'm in. It's about time that the software and hardware finally melded together.
This was posted in the iOS forum. I think this is what's meant by black and white. The question being will will most apps have a white background or will it be a mix of white and black. I'm thinking white. If it looks anything like these concepts below I'll be the first to update.
This is fantastic
Exactly. Everyone has a preconceived idea of what it's going to look like and think it's already terrible. I have full trust in Jony Ive to do what he does best at: design. Not just design but useful,unfluffed design that works and looks beautiful. Everything in design has to have a reason for being there. Colors have meaning, they make you feel different things and Ive understands that. He's not just going to drop textures and make everything black and white without a reason for doing so. I can't wait to see what he does.
Read the post. It says that they're experimenting with implementation of quick toggles for all Wifi, Bluetooth, Etc.
Why Not Both?
instead of alienating customers?
SO.....There's large existing market for the current toyish look (ie, every preteen & teen that wants an iDevice)
AND.....There's a large potential market for the newer minimilist look (ie, business market)
So WHY does Apple appear to be dead set on a SINGLE major re-haul that leans towards one market? When it could simply appear as an option in "settings": [appearance 1] [appearance 2].
Skins, Appearance tweak options, etc have been around for decades in Mac OS.... just sayin
instead of alienating customers?
SO.....There's large existing market for the current toyish look (ie, every preteen & teen that wants an iDevice)
AND.....There's a large potential market for the newer minimilist look (ie, business market)
So WHY does Apple appear to be dead set on a SINGLE major re-haul that leans towards one market? When it could simply appear as an option in "settings": [appearance 1] [appearance 2].
Skins, Appearance tweak options, etc have been around for decades in Mac OS.... just sayin
Surprisingly, I find this very appealing.
To those who are worried: "do you who Jony Ive is?"
Personally I have full faith in Ive heading up sw design. I haven't heard more exciting news from apple in a long time. I can't wait to see this redesign. I think it's needed and Ive will make it something special.
We don't know how much of an existing market there is for the skeuomorphic look. I don't own an iPhone because of skeuomorphism, I own one in spite of it.
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One thing to note is we haven't heard any rumors claiming Ive's direction is causing riffs amongst software designers/engineers. All we got was a quote from Rene Ritchie saying the changes were making people really happy. I gotta believe if people that saw them didn't like them somehow it would get leaked.
Because apple thinks its customers are dumb and don't want to give them too much choice that may confuse their "dumb" customers.
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Well the backlash about forstall really didn't come out until after he was axed so I could see this being the same way if people don't like the changes( not saying people do not, just hypothetical)
re monochrome
Nice job ! i had a bad feeling ,and still have about that , i knew Apple goes towoard the big brother ,1984 comercial with all grey items ,and shades of gray when they removed all colour from itunes ,and then they brought it back latter , watch this happening all over again ,they will make all black and white and shades of gray just to bring their" new and improved"{HUrray !! for that when that time will come } redisigned all colour full api in ios 8 , or 9.
I learned all your tricks by now Apple ,just sticking with my trusty 5.1.1 ios on my iphone 4s Thank you ! but no thank you Apple .
Nice job ! i had a bad feeling ,and still have about that , i knew Apple goes towoard the big brother ,1984 comercial with all grey items ,and shades of gray when they removed all colour from itunes ,and then they brought it back latter , watch this happening all over again ,they will make all black and white and shades of gray just to bring their" new and improved"{HUrray !! for that when that time will come } redisigned all colour full api in ios 8 , or 9.
I learned all your tricks by now Apple ,just sticking with my trusty 5.1.1 ios on my iphone 4s Thank you ! but no thank you Apple .
I hope these rumors of flatness are flat out wrong. Gloss and textures, fine, lose them. However, drop shadows differentiate between foreground and background and soft gradients give some life and depth to objects. I hope they don't pull a greyscale windows 8!?!!!?!?!? NOO!!!!!!
Black and White and Flat All Over
By "black and white," I don't think that Jony Ive means that the interface of iOS 7 (and possibly OS X 10.9) will literally be black on white. I believe that the interface may look like Adobe PhotoShop CS6, with a dark grayscale metallic look, with subtle design gradients. Color will be used sparingly, only to draw attention to important screen and window elements, such as the close, minimize, and maximize buttons in the upper left corner of document windows, and program and dock icons. This is a natural modern look, and I believe that many software and hardware items will take on this appearance. I don't think it is a bad thing at all.
By "black and white," I don't think that Jony Ive means that the interface of iOS 7 (and possibly OS X 10.9) will literally be black on white. I believe that the interface may look like Adobe PhotoShop CS6, with a dark grayscale metallic look, with subtle design gradients. Color will be used sparingly, only to draw attention to important screen and window elements, such as the close, minimize, and maximize buttons in the upper left corner of document windows, and program and dock icons. This is a natural modern look, and I believe that many software and hardware items will take on this appearance. I don't think it is a bad thing at all.
A highly detailed AppleInsider's article, on the way that could take the next iOS:
Editorial: Apple's iOS 7 needs exclusive, distinctive features, not just a flat UI
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...usive-distinctive-features-not-just-a-flat-ui
Editorial: Apple's iOS 7 needs exclusive, distinctive features, not just a flat UI
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...usive-distinctive-features-not-just-a-flat-ui
What are you talking about? The advantage is iMessage to iMessage is free and automatically detects if the recipient is on iOS automatically switching as required and saving you money. Think you miss the point! If it was a separate app you would lose this simple way of working and send text messages from your allowance when you have no need to, simply because you don't know if the recipient is on iOS or not,
Let us default third party apps ! If i download another calculator or browser etc im not interested in having the safari icon on my homescreen atleast let us disable/remove the icons specially newstand.
Notifications on LS should remain visible even if i unlock the phone until i either clear/open 'x' app or i choose to remove it.
The UI could use a refresh, it helps people fall in love with iOS again with the new effect but i dont see how people can claim this will be "huge" and think iOS 7 will have the same impact iOS 1 had in the industry get a grip !
atleast let us disable/remove the icons specially newstand.Notifications on LS should remain visible even if i unlock the phone until i either clear/open 'x' app or i choose to remove it.
The UI could use a refresh, it helps people fall in love with iOS again with the new effect but i dont see how people can claim this will be "huge" and think iOS 7 will have the same impact iOS 1 had in the industry
get a grip !
Knowing the clout that Ive has at Apple, do you seriously think that any employee working directly or even indirectly under his charge would make public (internally or externally) his/hers riff with him or his designs? It would be too easy to trace back to source and would be akin to a resignation letter.
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I have no problems with a toned down, monochromatic greyscale UI. However, I do not want a monochromatic Windows 8 UI.
I know the guy has clout but if he's advocating something crap I have a hard time believing no one would challenge it. Especially considering he just became leader of HI 6 months ago. And the software designers he's working with reported to the guy he probably had a hand in getting fired. I dunno, I just think if this was a disaster in the making somewhere, somehow we'd be hearing about it.
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On the 9to5Mac podcast the guy who reported this story said quite emphatically it's not going to be a black and white UI. They said Ive complained about ghere being no consistency across iOS. That's what black and white is for, to unify the OS. Black, for instance will replace the linen in notifications. Most of the apps will be color specific but have a white background. The icons of course are in color. I honestly can't believe anyone would be dense enough to think Apple was removing all color from iOS. But if someone is a fan of the current notes, calendar and contact apps, if they like GameCenter design then they will be disappointed.