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More Details on Next Version of Office for Mac Include Planned Launch in First Half of 2015
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Please don't let it be Office 365 for Mac !
I just want to download it onto my Mac and be done. No account or monthly rental...just simple load and use. Chances of this are ???
I just want to download it onto my Mac and be done. No account or monthly rental...just simple load and use. Chances of this are ???
So much debate as to what's better between iWork and Office... I'll throw myself in, it has been clear for me since I've owned my first Mac 8 years ago :
Powerpoint << Keynote
Word >> Pages
Excel >>>> Numbers
Outlook ≈ Mail + Calendar
(can we see co-workers' time schedule easily in Calendar? Never tried that)
However, Mail < Gmail just because a new email in Gmail doesn't pop up a new window, and because when you answer, it doesn't quote the whole conversation all the time.
It kind of bothers me because Apple is in shape of rolling a much better iWork suite than what we have. They could crush Office if they wanted to. This year's update was a deception, and Office 2015 is right at the door...
Powerpoint << Keynote
Word >> Pages
Excel >>>> Numbers
Outlook ≈ Mail + Calendar
(can we see co-workers' time schedule easily in Calendar? Never tried that)
However, Mail < Gmail just because a new email in Gmail doesn't pop up a new window, and because when you answer, it doesn't quote the whole conversation all the time.
It kind of bothers me because Apple is in shape of rolling a much better iWork suite than what we have. They could crush Office if they wanted to. This year's update was a deception, and Office 2015 is right at the door...
No, I might not. I have a German keyboard with different shortcuts.
⌥ 8 = {
⌥ Ü =
Maybe Apple are worried if they crush Office with a much better iWork it will lead MS to drop the Mac version altogether which might scare off potential business customers. I remember those Mac adverts from years ago where they emphasised that you can work on Office documents with a Mac. Word and Excel are still the de facto standard for most companies around the world.
Apple's <cough> business doesn't make sense for people with very little memory in their devices for storage. MS on the other hand with 1TB of storage works on most anything.
Why would anyone buy 200gb of Apple's iCloud storage for a device with only 16gb.
I can agree with some of this. 1 TB of cloud storage is sweet. And anyone who only has 16 GB of hard storage is making an odd decision to get 200GB of storage, but to each their own eh? Then again, most folks with 16 GB of storage have a base-station computer with more memory.
Of course, it is best to have both cloud and local backups.I'd rather trust multiple server backups in Redmond and elsewhere than I would the drive I'm carrying around. Or an Apple Time Capsule sitting in my house waiting to catch fire.
You cloud haters crack me up.
Personally, I like the cloud when I can actually get at it. That is the issue with the cloud. It doesn't always hang low enough for me to reach on the go
Why does iCloud suck?
(I personally think Dropbox is more versatile, but iCloud is rapidly closing the gap)
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Thanks for trying. That is genuinely appreciated. The Option or Alt 8 gives me a bullet.
Your suggestions that I magically be perfect with my grammar and buy an iPhone 6 were not so helpful.
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Short answer: basically everything.
Keynote is light years ahead in both usability and the final quality of the presentation. Motion effects are much smoother and better looking, control of type and graphics is much better, and it's all way easier to work with on a Mac. You can build the same presentation on PPT and Keynote, apply analogous effects and transitions in each, and the PPT will look like $h** by comparison, every. single. time.
On a usability level, it's also garbage. Just as a sample of the fun, here's a classic bug in PPT: you can bring in guides to help align things, but you can't lock them. Why in the name of god would you want guides that you can't lock and are therefore always grabbing by mistake?
How about this: you want to fine tune all the aspects of a text box? Have fun either hunting through about a mile of garbagey Microsoft "effects" to find what you want, and/or opening up a modal dialog instead of an inspector. It's the same bloated crap from Word we've all hated for decades, applied to a new format.
I hit a lovely bug the other day where I put text into three columns and it would just shift alignment randomly and unpredictably -- and just to add to the fun, undo stopped working.
There's also no word wrap -- that's right, you can't set in a graphic and have text flow around it. Why? Who knows. Microsoft acknowledges and apologizes for it.
Powerpoint is a steaming heap of $h**, no way around it.
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You do realize that the storage people have on their devices was THEIR choice. Nuff said.
Your lack of reading and actually thinking about what I said shows that you have no idea what I was talking about. Don't try to tear down my opinion just because you don't have the ability to understand. Did you read ALL OF WHAT I WROTE, or did you cherry pick what you wanted to in order to make your point? I said that there are a lot of other alternatives. If you don't know what they are, that's your problem. Just keep pouring money into Microsoft's coffers so that you can have the latest version of their bloatware.
The old iCloud UI introduced with Mountain Lion kind of sucked, because the filesystem and the cloud existed next to each other and followed different rules, creating too much cognitive overhead. Now with Yosemite and iCloud Drive it's all much more integrated. I don't see any benefit in using Dropbox anymore.
Computers will never be flawless at handling natural language. The grammar rules of spoken languages aren't strict enough for computing. Sometimes you do want two spaces between words, sometimes you don't. The computer will never know what's on purpose and what's a mistake. There is no point in complaining about things that can't be changed. Of course you can't edit Pages documents on a phone without a lot of scrolling, that's why tablets exist.
There are some really useful programs (like Voice Dream for iOS) that can't access iCloud ... yet. They tell me they're working on it.
The point I'm making is that not only is the flagging of two spaces useful and possible but it is available on Word today, but not the program I want to use: Pages. This is not a case of something that can't be changed.
Yes, I read ALL of what you wrote. Shall I quote you or are you smart enough to scroll up and re-read yourself? What you DON'T get is that there are people out here in the universe who AREN'T YOU. It may shock you to learn that those people also have needs that ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS. Again, I know it's a shock, but SOME PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN YOU DO. Some people need actual Office. Maybe, in the future, you could recognize that the universe doesn't revolve around you and that while YOU may not need something, that doesn't mean "We" (and yes, I'm quoting you, in case you're confused) don't need it. Way to be a self-indulgent troll.
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This was always an option, even after Office 365 was introduced. Yes, you can still buy office outright without any monthly fees for $139 for "Office for Mac
Home & Student" or $219 for "Office for Mac Home & Business"
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products
You can also buy Windows versions outright.
I see people complaining about this a lot. Is it really that complicated? Just google "buy microsoft office" and click on the first link, how hard can it be?
I sincerely hope, that there will also be a non-subscription buy option. Otherwise, I'll stick with the old 2011 edition.
I've had to mention the same thing on here quite a few times. I don't get why people have such a hard time with understanding this.
You point out a lot of what bothers me about it with some things I hadn't considered. Thanks for the list. Bottom line for me: PPT's interface is too cluttered and Keynote's transitions are still smoother than Powerpoints (though they have improved).
I don't have an issue as such with Office 2011, does everything i want and i prefer it to Office 2013, it looks nicer.
My problem is the fact Microsoft only do Outlook, Powerpoint, One note, Word and Excel.
What about Publisher? Visio? Access? Project?
My problem is the fact Microsoft only do Outlook, Powerpoint, One note, Word and Excel.
What about Publisher? Visio? Access? Project?