More iPhone Features Coming? Video Recording on iPhone?

[Hattig]

Ugh, Push Email.

I see the adverts on the tube ... they might as well read "Blackberry. Work yourself to death". I can imagine an advert where you hear the blackberry "New Email" noise from someone's coffin.

Push Email. Just Say No.

 

[newwavedave]

what?? you cant play music and surf at the same time on iphone?? are you serious??

i can't believe i've read dozens of iphone reviews and none of them mention that restriction! that's just basic stuff. how can that not work??

i wonder what else those reviews happened not to mention... damn apple fanboy journalism!

Try Troll FUD. You can listen to music and surf the internet just fine. I hope that Apple builds in voice recognition soon. And, is it just me, but don't you think that Apple could sell a lot more copies of iLife if they made Garage Band able to convert your songs to ringtones?

 

[lazyrighteye]

This has made me think maybe the second gen iPhone won't come until holidays 2008 just before everyones current contract (2yr US, 18month UK) runs out and just before the biggest sales quarter of the year.

Apple will keep the 1st Gen iPhone a live with the cool new software. Remember the Powerbook G4, that was really far behind its time for years but apple kept making and it people kept buying it because of the software!

iPhone v2 will be out sooner than holiday '08.
Next summer, US, latest. My guess centers around spring time (Feb/Mar).
I have theories about the next gen iPhone being the rumored ultra portable - a hybrid of laptop & iPhone (but I won't bore you all with that nonsense again).

With a v2 iPhone releasing mid-AT&T contract, it is my hope that AT&T will allow current iPhone users to upgrade sans penalties (simply extend their contract another 2 years - if they must - and happily take their $400 for a new device). It really would be in both AT&T and Apple's best interests - or maybe just in mine.

 

[jholzner]

Something I'd LOVE to see, but I know will never happen, is have Apple add Google's Android cell phone thing. Apple will never do it, but would be cool.

Add it?? Android is an entire mobile OS just like OS X is on the iPhone. You can't just "add" Android without replacing the entire iPhone OS. Kinda like saying Apple should add Linux to Mac OS X (Android is based on Linux btw).

 

[Darth.Titan]

Add it?? Android is an entire mobile OS just like OS X is on the iPhone. You can't just "add" Android without replacing the entire iPhone OS. Kinda like saying Apple should add Linux to Mac OS X (Android is based on Linux btw).

And I believe Arn mentioned this in another thread, that Android = Java.
iPhone doesn't do Java, so unfortunately Android on iPhone is very unlikely.

 

[JC4]

Try Troll FUD. You can listen to music and surf the internet just fine.

Hardly FUD. It's a real problem, been there since v1.0.0. After the 2nd update, I called to report the problem to Apple support. Spent an hour on the phone reproducing the problem. They sent me a replacement, which I quickly proved had the same problem. Spent another 2+ hours on the phone trying different combinations of music types, and web pages. Still simple to reproduce the crash in under 15 minutes. Eventually(days later) the tech found out from the dev department it was a known issue, and there was no ETA on the fix. The workaround was to reboot the phone(Duh!). They just don't communicate such issues to the support staff, so it waisted a lot of my time and theirs. I returned the loaner phone, and just stopped using iPod with Safari. Apple chose to fix me rather than the bug.

You obviously don't surf more than a couple minutes while listening to music. Why is it people like you label everyone with a problem a troll? Does it make you feel better to assume you're right and everyone else is wrong?

 

[lazyrighteye]

Something I'd LOVE to see, but I know will never happen, is have Apple add Google's Android cell phone thing. Apple will never do it, but would be cool.

You do know that "Google's cell phone thing" is an operating system, right?

 

[garty]

And I believe Arn mentioned this in another thread, that Android = Java.
iPhone doesn't do Java, so unfortunately Android on iPhone is very unlikely.

Android uses java syntax and APIs but has it's own VM called Dalvik not a java VM (according to reports)

 

[maveness]

I've never understood why everyone is so hyped about a horizontal version of the keyboard. Haven't you noticed that, in Safari, when you use the horizontal version of the keyboard, the viewable area of the text your typing is restricted to at most two lines.

It is VERY user-unfriendly for writing or editing anything. If they do implement a horizontal keyboard for email, they should probably shrink it to less than the width of the iPhone to allow for more vertical text space above the keys.

As for those having trouble listening to music and surfing Safari at the same time... you have upgraded your firmware/software, right? (You're not using an unlocked phone or something...?) Because one of the early updates pretty much eliminated the browser crash, at least for most of us.

And yeah, I'd like voice dialing, and some basic text editing gesture for cut and paste. I'd love to be able to take short video clips and upload them. And I'd REALLY like for my iPhone's photos to not have a nasty cyan cast to them all the time.

 

[robshort]

Wtf?

They [Apple] aren't stupid. They won't want to give you everything at once.

Stupid, no - but that business model is plenty f**king annoying.

 

[SpinThis!]

I also don't see what the advantage would be to intentionally delaying the release of new iPhone features.

I can think of at least one... accounting. iPhone's revenue is coming over 2 years time; you can't just release everything at once. Plus, all the people who bought it on day 1 would find something else to bitch about. No way Apple can please everyone, especially all at once but they can slowly roll out more features over time.

Especially with the holiday shopping season approaching.

If the regular features of the iPhone aren't enough to entice somebody to buy it (full safari and e-mail, visual voicemail, etc) no software upgrade is going to do that. Anybody who purchases a gadget based on upgradeability first instead of its current feature set is foolish. You might as well wait until the device has those features first (and probably ends up dropping in price too) before buying in. People need to stop treating the iPhone like a stock and more like what it is.

 

[ceiph]

cmon apple i owned an iphone when they were 600 couldnt justify the price so i returned , now that its 400 im just waiting for a better feature set before i buy again!!

 

[amx]

video recording and all the you tube goodies are nice. Honestly, i couldnt care less. How about Apple, you fix text messaging. I want to be able to forward and send a text to multiple people. How hard can it be. I also want to be able to delete individual replies/texts from a conversation. Most people do alot of texting these days, more then email from a mobile device.

Also, just like other people mentioned copy/paste is missing. These are not features but rather bugs that need to be addressed rather quickly.

 

[mrrory]

How about making Canada an Added Feature?

Ha ha!

It's hard to be patient, but that's the price we pay for hanging on to these "rumo(u)rs" I suppose.

I would like the addition of video recording.

 

[JC4]

As for those having trouble listening to music and surfing Safari at the same time... you have upgraded your firmware/software, right? (You're not using an unlocked phone or something...?) Because one of the early updates pretty much eliminated the browser crash, at least for most of us.

Yes, I had the problem with the first 3 versions.(I haven't tried iPod/Surf with the latest) Never hacked my phone, or unlocked it.

Like I said above, Apple admitted its a known issue. I have no reason to lie about this. There's nothing to argue about here. I own an iPhone, and many other Apple products, and even some AAPL stock. Its NOT in my best interest to point out problems, accept to maybe help push Apple to fix it.

If you're not hitting the bug, you're not trying to surf while listening to tunes for any extended period of time(10-30 minutes). And, once it crashes once(iPod crashing that is), you can't get through one song without the crash repeating(while surfing). The phone must be rebooted, and the countdown timer to the next crash begins.

 

[Manatee]

That's good news, but I hope Apple doesn't focus their efforts too much on artsy multimedia functionality.

I speak, of course, from the perspective of my own needs -- those of a businessperson who has to keep track of a lot of data and correspondence, and juggle a lot of documents.

Now, I know that Apple's bias is toward media and the arts -- and I'll acknowledge that since BootCamp came along, I'm probably booting into Vista (Business!) 70% of the time.

What I really want from the iPhone is:

1. A Blackberry
2. With the interface and browser of the iPhone
3. And the broad range of applications of the Palm OS

Simple enough, right?

 

[tallyho]

Video would be sweet and all, but it sure would be nice to send a text message to multiple recipients.

You can't do that on an iPhone?!? You can do that on a £10 pay as you go cheapo phone. iPhone costs over £900 (when you factor in the insanely high contract for 18 months AND the purchase price). Bizarre. I really want an iPhone, but wow. I mean wow.

 

[Manatee]

Push Email. Just Say No.

You can always not configure it, you know.

My philosophy on gadgets/machines/life is to alway offer as many features and as much flexibility as possible, but make it easy for the user to opt out of using any of those features. An example of this is the "automatic" spelling correction on the iPhone. I'd like to be able to switch it off and mispell (should I put a winky face here?) at will.

 

[sjo]

Calm down dude. Do your research and don't read too much into that comment. The iPhone should be able to play music and surf the web at the same time just fine, but what with it being a first gen product it's been known to wig out at times when there's too much going on. Like another poster says, bugs like that have been getting fixed with each update, which is generally what updates are for - not for adding the functionality that should really have been there from day one. hey. At least they're adding this stuff.

Dude:

1. i agree that it's a brand new product and i'd be surprised if it had zero problem.

however:

2. i think that listening music and surfing at the same time is really really basic functionality in this kind of product. if the product is having problems with this, they should be upfront about it, so buyers would know what to expect (or at least have an apple kb article)

3. i'm really surprised by the lack of integrity on the part of the reviewers, many of them of high profile and not even mentioning that there are some "minor" issues like this for apple to work out.

4. most of all, i'm surprised they have this kind of problems in osx environment.

 

[RaoulNachi]

Apple's feature releases

Of course, Apple didn't put the whole pig in the poke for gen1. they have to have something for the second, third, etc. act. But, while the iPhone is cool, it is an Apple product and subject to being just a little behind the times, even though it has, for the moment, everyone's attention. I'm as big an apple fan as anyone, going back to 1977. Apple's attitude when faced with criticism of their shortcomings has always been "so what? you don't like it, don't buy it."

Everybody's gunning for the iPhone and Apple's going to have to get moving and stop screwing their market w/crippled product and incremental updates or the iPhone will be eclipsed and just a fond memory. It's not a matter of can they do it, it's a matter of will they do it before the others kick sand in their face.

I'm waiting to see what happens after the first of the year.

In the meantime, if you want to see what's coming down the pike and what technology Apple's left out, read:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=202805257

 

[kherge]

Hammer Time

What's the marketing advantage of dragging out the most in-demand features, FLASH, mail-mass-delete, MMS....? Or dragging out bug-fixes like iPod that doesn't crash when surfing...?

Not sure but it's probably to give devs time to hammer out the bugs. The less you have to work on simultaneously, the more time you have to spend on other things.

 

[0098386]

Makes sense-

Release iPhone > gets hacked > update fixes previous hacks > back to 2.

They need something to make those hack breakers worthwhile. And as someone who won't be hacking his iPhone I don't care

It is great that the iPhone is becoming more and more the machine I want it to be. It's missing 3G but with the coverage of that in my city I'll be glad it's on Edge.

 

[imwoblin]

This is Apple just preaching to the choir. I was one of the lemmings that stood in line 4 hours to purchase this device, knowing, I mean hoping that Apple would roll out features in a timely manner. Well, its been 4 months and 2 updates and not one useful smartphone feature has been added. Ok, we did get wireless iTunes, but that isn't really a useful feature in my book, just another revenue stream for Apple. I have to go back 3 generations of phones (Razor, Blackberry, MotoQ) to equal the limited smartphone apps of this device. I mean c'mon, Apple even locked down the Bluetooth capabilities to transfer files from you're Mac to the phone! As an Apple shareholder, I am delighted at the success of this cool gadget, but just think how many more people would step up to the plate and purchase one of these bad boys if it had MMS, copy/paste, bluetooth support, video support, save picture to phone etc..

 

[daysleeper]

Basic functionality- no excuse

Just give me SMS to multiple recipients. Several times I have had to tell people at work that I can't do that with my iPhone (I sometimes need to send hourly SMS updates about stuff) and you should see the looks I get. As in, "You spent $400 on a phone that can't send a text to more than one person?"

I can't say I blame them.

Any video taken with the iPhone camera will look terrible. Just see what happens when you are framing a picture and move the phone around.

 

[tribulation]

I'm as big an apple fan as anyone, going back to 1977. Apple's attitude when faced with criticism of their shortcomings has always been "so what? you don't like it, don't buy it."

yes it is so true
has flaws like EVERY company and person. what makes some of us,the honest ones anyway mad is when there is a definite flaw or major bug in an product and when we mention it,so many people wont even acknowledge it.
do you guys really think that any company could be THAT good at anything?
no,thats just fact
and when giant bugs do come up,if nobody acknowledges them and blows it off as nonexistent because of the almighty i guarantee you that the almighty wont fix it.complaining about valid bugs and defects is what drives a consumer society and companies to fix things.if you dont complain,it doesnt get fixed.simple as that

by the way how many of you have tried to post a 'negative' question on apple discussion boards? moderators are deleting them like wildfire lately,more than ever.Apple's discussion boards are supposed to be there to help answer questions.except if your question points out a bug or flaw of apple,it has a big chance of being deleted.the leopard forums especially are smattered with 'unavailable' links now that should point to valid and useful questions,but apple moderators deleted them because they brought up flaws in apple products.its ridiculous
and i'm not talking about just flame posts,i mean they are deleting questions and answers very readily that bring up anything wrong or that doesn't work with apple products.that is NOT an honest and helpful company attitude and the problem is getting alot worse lately