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Too busy to read the whole thread, but the other reason to space out functionality updates is that it gives them a nice, built in, periodic schedule of sorts to break all the hacks. Again and again. Without it seeming like they're solely coming after the hacks.

WIth all the brains around here I would think this was already considered :)

TM
 
This is what I don't get... If Apple doesn't add these main features like MMS, Copy Paste, Video, etc BEFORE Feb, then they are going to lose those things to third party developers and they wouldn't want that to happen would they??? Wouldn't they want people using their apps? So I would think they would add them before then, but with this track record it is looking NOT GOOD at all. Any thoughts people???
 
Am i the only one thinking that these updates will be released gradually simply to allow Apple to keep chasing the mouse?

No, I believe the same thing. If they release all of the features, they have no leverage to get people to continue to update their software. If they leave even one "must have" feature out, like cut and paste, that gives them the power of an additional update. With people hacking and cracking left and right, and within hours of releases, I have a feeling, unfortunately, that we won't see all the features rolled out for quite some time.
 
Could you imagine (just picture it for a moment) that if Apple enabled camera recording, and then included an iMovie-like app for editing videos.

It wouldn't take much. The iPhone's already got OS X, just slim down iMovie to the basics. :)
 
They need to add flash(light) for the camera..that cant be updated with hardware either...

They also need to add video recording,picture messaging,a text to multiple people..stuff that my phone has out of the box...oh yeah and 3g....and at least 16 gigs..then ill buy one...till then im good with my phone and touch.
 
My #1 request is to integrate to-do lists! I'm still amazed that was not included out of the gate. Now that it's part of mail in Leopard I'm hoping we see it on the iPhone soon.

Otherwise: support for Flash, AirTunes and better texting capabilities such as the ones mentioned previously in this thread..
 
Seriously?

If the regular features of the iPhone aren't enough to entice somebody to buy it (full safari and e-mail, visual voicemail, etc) no software upgrade is going to do that.

Hm. You must have a different iPhone than me. Mine doesn't support flash. I wouldn't exactly call that "full safari."
 
i can def see this happening.
also, im expecting more products from google to be on the iphone, as long as googles new platform doesnt strain the iphone/google relationship

and of course ichat will be the first thing they update
 
Could you imagine (just picture it for a moment) that if Apple enabled camera recording, and then included an iMovie-like app for editing videos.

It wouldn't take much. The iPhone's already got OS X, just slim down iMovie to the basics. :)

or how bout just a basic iphoto, its a lot less intensive
 
That's good news, but I hope Apple doesn't focus their efforts too much on artsy multimedia functionality.

I speak, of course, from the perspective of my own needs -- those of a businessperson who has to keep track of a lot of data and correspondence, and juggle a lot of documents.

Now, I know that Apple's bias is toward media and the arts -- and I'll acknowledge that since BootCamp came along, I'm probably booting into Vista (Business!) 70% of the time.

What I really want from the iPhone is:

1. A Blackberry
2. With the interface and browser of the iPhone
3. And the broad range of applications of the Palm OS

Simple enough, right? ;)

Apple will wind up and have a crack at the enterprise before long.

They have been making slow but considered steps since Mac OS X was introduced. The problem is the enterprise is a slow moving beast not very open or receptive to new ideas. Hence an all out offensive is likely to back fire and be very costly. So for the moment, iPhone will be a consumer device.

I imagine you will most of those things at some stage though (i.e. good push email) and not just the range of Apps that palm has, but far greater quality of apps as well and some of these will be very useful for business.

The bad news is you will have to be patient.
 
Just jailbreak the phone

That would be much more interesting if you couldn't already get a whole lot more functionality just by jailbreaking your iPhone.

I held out for months, but I just couldn't go any longer without a freakin' To-Do list (even most stupid phones have To-Do lists these days). I finally have the phone I wanted when I bought an iPhone - games, terminal, pseudo-GPS functionality, and (of course) To-Do lists. Free ringtones from my legally owned music, too.

Even if Apple ever decides to really punish jailbroken iPhones, it'll be easy to restore to 1.1.1 and look like the phone has never been jailbroken.

The fact of the matter is, the third party community can develop this stuff much more quickly than Apple ever can. We'll see come February just how much Apple will be embracing them.
 
Junk mail filtering can be done on the server

i just want a junk email filter so i can quit wasting my time deleting thousands of stupid emails.

Why download junk mail in the first place. Why not use a mail server that can filter junk mail before you download it. I have heard gmail is great for this. Personally I use .mac. I guess it uses my junkmail settings from Mail on my mac. I never had to think about junk mail filters for the iPhone. Sorry to be cliche, but "It just works."
 
You guys act like Apple is trying to not put certain key features on the iPhone.

IT TAKES TIME.

Would you want some buggy interface to record videos in and then the upload would maybe 1 out of 5 times upload the movie correctly? It's called Apple taking their time and working out all the bugs before they release something. You guys act like with a day of work on the iPhone you can add certain features.

All i hear is "wow this iPhone doesn't have copy and paste? wow the iPhone doesn't have flash".

How would you implement copy and paste in the iPhone in a matter that isn't a difficult task? It's not like you can just throw a button somewhere that is highlight, copy, and then paste button. With flash, if the iPhone can't handle such high processes at one time (like big safari pages and music in the backround) you really expect flash anytime soon?

You knew the iPhone didn't have it when you bought. Don't like that it doesn't have it? Don't buy it.

Stop hating on Apple.
 
if they put out software updates with video i bet the security update will come at the same time locking the unlocked phones :apple:
 
The only features I need on the iPhone right now are:
(1) Work on the Sprint or Verizon network... I am kicking Verizon right now.
(2) Allow me to connect my laptop to the iPhone so I can surf the web via a larger screen.
 
How about making Canada an Added Feature?

for some reason i found this really funny.. anyway.. lol, ive had the iphone for a month, and i can honestly say it is by far the best thing i have ever owned.. i mean, yeah, there are a few setbacks, but they arent enough to make me use a phone that isnt an iphone
 
"You wait, there will an exciting partnership with YouTube that adds video functionality and then lets you upload to the site in no time"

He forgot to mention that there's an exciting partnership with at&t that that will prevent it from uploading in no time. I really don't see a software upgrade fixing that problem.
 
Interesting philosophy...

You can always not configure it, you know. :)

My philosophy on gadgets/machines/life is to alway offer as many features and as much flexibility as possible, but make it easy for the user to opt out of using any of those features.


Apple has been very successful with a much different philosophy than yours. Look at the iPod. It is much more successful than other products with more features. This is because the iPod isn't crammed with unused features that make it harder to use the features people really want.
 
Apple has been very successful with a much different philosophy than yours. Look at the iPod. It is much more successful than other products with more features. This is because the iPod isn't crammed with unused features that make it harder to use the features people really want.

100% agree.


Now, if some of this was download-able like when the SDK comes out, it will be nice to pick what you want and don't want. I never use stocks on my iPhone (don't know if you'll be able to get rid of that though when the SDK comes out? don't see why not).

But like some people will use a IM client a lot. Others won't. Least we get to finally choose what we want.
 
You guys act like Apple is trying to not put certain key features on the iPhone.

IT TAKES TIME.

Would you want some buggy interface to record videos in and then the upload would maybe 1 out of 5 times upload the movie correctly? It's called Apple taking their time and working out all the bugs before they release something. You guys act like with a day of work on the iPhone you can add certain features.

All i hear is "wow this iPhone doesn't have copy and paste? wow the iPhone doesn't have flash".

How would you implement copy and paste in the iPhone in a matter that isn't a difficult task? It's not like you can just throw a button somewhere that is highlight, copy, and then paste button. With flash, if the iPhone can't handle such high processes at one time (like big safari pages and music in the backround) you really expect flash anytime soon?

You knew the iPhone didn't have it when you bought. Don't like that it doesn't have it? Don't buy it.

Stop hating on Apple.

I agree, and the rules of ergonomics are defined by user expectations. Once users have become familiar with the new touch interface more gestures can be added (like one for copy and paste).

If you look at the early mac operating systems you will see that there weren't as many features as today (like control clicking). Users weren't ready for that many options.
 
if they give me Video Recording and Picture messaging in this iPhone. I would buy another iPhone, just to show how much I appreciated it cause those are 2 KEY features for me that those free phones do and my god damn $600 phone does. not. do :eek:

Sending multiple text messages would be cool too (when you gotta tell a few people the same thing, sucks typing it over and over) but again, if they give me video recording (let alone, uploading to YouTube) and picture messages (so I can finally cancel my Verizon phone) ill be soooo ever sooo ever sooo happy :cool:

You and me are on EXACTLY the same page....
I felt like I wrote that post for a second =)
 
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