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Good luck with that. The people who have it won't give it out and when it's released then it won't matter anymore.

:)

Apple is going after the "leak". No doubt the are looking to acquire a "copy" of the distribution as we speak. Patiently. Quietly. And when they get it, they'll be able to retrieve the digital fingerprint that tells them who they'll prosecute.

~ CB
 
I was really hoping for flash support and/or playlist editing on the fly. This other stuff is just meh.
 
i would like to see them, in a video, go into settings and show that it is in fact 1.1.3. then i will believe it.


I second that. first he showed a crapped webcam of the firmware then he pulled out a nice camera, then showed a nice clean video of very clear text video. still fails to show the clean video of text in firmware page shot.

this video is way to edited, and if its true apple will have him wishing he did not post this.
 
Good luck with that. The people who have it won't give it out and when it's released then it won't matter anymore.
:)
True, perhaps. Good moles are hard to find. That said, the only alternative to that is suing the parties that broke the news in order to reveal their source (or the code itself). --And we know how well that has worked in the past. But, who knows.

~ CB
 
My guess is that this is an intentional leak on Apple's part and that they are merely watching to see how the firmware spreads in the hacker community, who gives it to who etc. If I was them I would put something in it so that adoption of it can be easily tracked. Remember that the 1.1.2 firmware came into people's hands in a similar but seemingly less deliberate way, so they let it go more deliberately this time in order to figure out which guy in what office is responsible at Apple.

Let's face it, GearLive is a fairly obscure site. Certainly not mainstream. Why would *they* get the firmware unless it was given to them directly from "a friend" at Apple.

Think about it. If Apple the company, was saying to it's employees (with a wink) "Hey, we won't care if you let your friends in on this release," then all the bigger rumour sites with the large readerships who *also* have friends at Apple would *also* have it. There is no way this is a sanctioned release, even a "wink, wink nudge, nudge" one. Seems to me this is definitely someone breaking their NDA.

If I was to go deep into "wild guess" country, I would think that since GearLive is based in Seattle of all places, that maybe a former Microsoft employee who is a friend of someone at GearLive recently got a job at Apple and doesn't realise what a despicable act this is.

The only thing certain is that if and when the leaker is identified and fired, that all kinds of hilarious, illogical mock outrage from similar morality-disabled people will spread throughout the hacker forums. ;)

A fairly obscure site, eh?

We get over 2 million unique visitors per month. We've been around since 2004. We've won awards, including BEst Technology Video Podcast.

Just because you don't happen to visit a site doesn't make it obscure :p
 
OK slightly off topic but, can anyone tell me if it's safe or if there's any reason not to put my AdSense for Content Number into the GearLive forum registration page?

I love the wiggling, it's cute.
I also like that the iTunes WiFi App is on the right hand side, it's different and almost iconic. (No pun intended)

Maybe NateTrue is a sacked/former apple employee.

Mitch, we use the Adsense for Content number in case you ever start submitting articles to us. Anything of yours that get's printed, we use your Adsense number to display ads from YOUR Adsense account so you would earn some cash ;)

Completely optional though.
 
A fairly obscure site, eh?

We get over 2 million unique visitors per month. We've been around since 2004. We've won awards, including BEst Technology Video Podcast.

Just because you don't happen to visit a site doesn't make it obscure :p
I was very impressed with your site, and keep the informative videos and podcasts coming!! Happy New Year.
 
So long as the demand remains high for unlocked phones then people will find away.
Good point, but demand seems to be waning quickly. I hacked my iPhone in June and stopped hacking by August. Most of the "techies" I know (and I know a lot of them) hacked for awhile, opted for the secure and hassle free solution of the non hacked iPhone.
I'm sure hobbyists and the small percentage of users who need cheap plans (but can afford an iPhone) and world travelers who travel on the cheap will continue to hack but there ranks will be less than insignificant.
 
A fairly obscure site, eh?
We get over 2 million unique visitors per month. We've been around since 2004. We've won awards, including BEst Technology Video Podcast.
Just because you don't happen to visit a site doesn't make it obscure :p
I appreciate that you guys stepped up to the bat and did an iPhone battery replacement video, just to settle the question if nothing else. Good job. Sometimes it takes some waves to make people really notice something that's been there for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gearlive

Shoot me, but despite their publishing policies, I still like YouTube. ;)
Good point, but demand seems to be waning quickly. I hacked my iPhone in June and stopped hacking by August. Most of the "techies" I know (and I know a lot of them) hacked for awhile, opted for the secure and hassle free solution of the non hacked iPhone.
I'm in that camp. There was a point where my iPhone started getting tempermental, and I wanted to focus on doing everything I could to make it crash less. At first, it felt odd, but oddly, my nonjailbreak iPhone feels much much more solid. Just my personal feeling. That said, I might well be singing a different tune by know if Jobs hadn't set a date on 3rd party app support.

~ CB
 
not really. it is the biggest update so far, maybe it just doesnt do what you want or need it to do...

i think maybe around the time of macworld we'll see 1.2. i think this is to be released before then...

Yeah, that's why for me it's underwhelming.

Why should I be excited?
 
Yeah, that's why for me it's underwhelming.
Why should I be excited?
No one needs you to be excited, so relax. Maybe you should ask yourself why you think someone wants you to be excited? If you're interested why other people are excited (or just pleased) about the update, just ask.

Personally, I'm excited because I can now my ANY web app my "start page" for mobile Safari, I can take mobile Safari and move it onto a different page, and only use a shortcut. I can now "ShortCut" my Google personal page. DONE. At times, I'd like to shortcut other things on my Homepage, like an airline, Movie ticket page, or my banking page. Moving my homepage items around like this was one of the main things I wanted a jailbreak app to do, but no one every made it anywhere NEAR this simple. Now, Apple will be adding THE simplest way to do it.

I remember holding down homepage icons in search of hidden "easter eggs". Ironically, its exactly how I thought moving icons around would happen (minus the jiggling). I also remember posing the question WHO should be the best company to compile inter-carrier tower triangulation data (after thinking about Navizon a little more). Google was the perfect choice. Bless Navizon, but I don't think the resources were ever going to be as expansive, and the service would never quite be profitable. Google Maps integration for My Location is stellar.

In the long-run, I never wanted a separate application. I didn't even think about "pins", but when I was out driving once... I went to try to get my bearings. Pins and triangulation would have helped a lot.

All and all, it looks like good stuff that I've been waiting some months to happen.

Lots of happy going on in my book, but everyone is different.

~ CB
 
Where are the fixes for previous features that don't work though?
Like say, I don't know, the ability to turn the key lock slider off completely? That's just a basic standard feature, and if they don't have that working right, they shouldn't be implementing faux gps.

BTW, Apple isn't implementing "faux gps," Google is :)

I am excited for the simple fact that the technology in this phone has so much potential and every little bit Apple will give us helps. While you can sit and argue whether or not Apple should have given all of this stuff at the beginning, the simple facts are they didn't, so yeah, its exciting that we are getting this stuff now.

Don't get me wrong here, developers working on apps for jailbroken phones are great, really, I applaud all of them, but who doesn't want Apple to continue to add stuff "officially"??
 
Where are the fixes for previous features that don't work though? Like say, I don't know, the ability to turn the key lock slider off completely? That's just a basic standard feature, and if they don't have that working right, they shouldn't be implementing faux gps.
You might want to think in broad strokes. Before you simply write it off as "faux gps", check out the video on how Google says the feature works...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIG-Dx7kF3Q
Basically, if GPS exists in the phone it will USE that GPS in Google Maps. If GPS is NOT provided for, Google will take the cell tower triangulation data, and generate an approximation. I look at this as the first stage to supporting hardware GPS, whether its built-in to the SIM chip on a new phone, powered by a serial dongle, or a Bluetooth supported receiver. Apple's programming it to use Google's API, so who knows what internal hooks they've set up?

Different ways to look at it, I think.

Not exactly realtime turn-by-turn updates... but its another step closer (and looking good getting there). For the most part, its all I needed from this generation of the iPhone in the way of a GPS.

~ CB
 
Seems Unlikely...

It's possible in my advancing years that I've just become to cynical, but I'm having a hard time buying this...

- A secret private key? First I've ever heard of it, and while I could see a private key for each phone, a single key that magically unlocks all iPhones seems like much too risky an approach.

- As has been noted, it's unfortunate that it was so inconvenient that it's hard to read the version number on the phone. Doesn't prove anything one way or the other, since I'd expect that could be hacked as well - but it sticks out.

- Contest for a giveaway iPhone for visitors to the site - did I catch that right in the video? You're sure this isn't about driving traffic to the site?

I'd be inclined to say that "time will tell" but there's enough plausible deniability here - unknown lineage, not final version, etc., etc. that the failure of some or all of the features to show up in the 'real' update can be explained away.

But it is a pretty cool fake, all the same. Nice work, and way to keep people entertained in the wait for MacWorld! :)
 
No one needs you to be excited, so relax. Maybe you should ask yourself why you think someone wants you to be excited? If you're interested why other people are excited (or just pleased) about the update, just ask.

Personally, I'm excited because I can now my ANY web app my "start page" for mobile Safari, I can take mobile Safari and move it onto a different page, and only use a shortcut. I can now "ShortCut" my Google personal page. DONE. At times, I'd like to shortcut other things on my Homepage, like an airline, Movie ticket page, or my banking page. Moving my homepage items around like this was one of the main things I wanted a jailbreak app to do, but no one every made it anywhere NEAR this simple. Now, Apple will be adding THE simplest way to do it.

I remember holding down homepage icons in search of hidden "easter eggs". Ironically, its exactly how I thought moving icons around would happen (minus the jiggling). I also remember posing the question WHO should be the best company to compile inter-carrier tower triangulation data (after thinking about Navizon a little more). Google was the perfect choice. Bless Navizon, but I don't think the resources were ever going to be as expansive, and the service would never quite be profitable. Google Maps integration for My Location is stellar.

In the long-run, I never wanted a separate application. I didn't even think about "pins", but when I was out driving once... I went to try to get my bearings. Pins and triangulation would have helped a lot.

All and all, it looks like good stuff that I've been waiting some months to happen.

Lots of happy going on in my book, but everyone is different.

~ CB

Whoohoo! :rolleyes:

Still not the second coming like some people here make it out to be.
 
It's possible in my advancing years that I've just become to cynical, but I'm having a hard time buying this...

- A secret private key? First I've ever heard of it, and while I could see a private key for each phone, a single key that magically unlocks all iPhones seems like much too risky an approach.

- As has been noted, it's unfortunate that it was so inconvenient that it's hard to read the version number on the phone. Doesn't prove anything one way or the other, since I'd expect that could be hacked as well - but it sticks out.

- Contest for a giveaway iPhone for visitors to the site - did I catch that right in the video? You're sure this isn't about driving traffic to the site?

I'd be inclined to say that "time will tell" but there's enough plausible deniability here - unknown lineage, not final version, etc., etc. that the failure of some or all of the features to show up in the 'real' update can be explained away.

But it is a pretty cool fake, all the same. Nice work, and way to keep people entertained in the wait for MacWorld! :)

I have no idea about secret keys, but dude, come on - seriously. Try Googling my name before you start questioning my integrity, okay?

Anyhow, we just put up our first 1.1.3 Q&A, answering questions from readers and viewers. We put up an image, clear as day, of the ABout screen. That cool with you?

Also, on the giveaway iPhone. You think this is just a ploy for traffic? We have gotten tons of traffic, whether we give away an iPHone or not. However, it's MY video. If I want to tell the viewers, AT THE END OF THE VIDEO, that we will be giving away a one of a kind iPhone, is that not my right?

People are so freaking cynical these days...
 
Whoohoo! :rolleyes: Still not the second coming like some people here make it out to be.
Just so you know, you're completely OKAY to have that opinion, alright? It's not a pod-people scenario, honest! Just because other people don't agree with you doesn't mean you have to hunt them down and pan the iPhone until they somehow come to their senses. :D

For instance, look at guys like Chris Pirillo of Tech TV fame. When the iPhone came out, he found it profoundly annoying that everybody kept fauning over the stupid phone... going on and on about looking pretty, when the phone was missing a bunch of basic functions he's had in other phones for years! He posted a RANT about it and how silly the hysteria is...

"As an overall purchase, it is about the DUMBEST
thing that you can do right now."

- Chris Pirillo, July 29th, 2007 9:48pm

"It is just insane. GIVE ME A BREAK! I don't know
what you're smoking, or what Apple has put in your
Apple juice, but hey... whatever it is... I'd like some,
because I wish I was high like that everyday..."

- Chris Pirillo, July 29th, 2007 9:48pm

"There are so many shortcomings in the iphone
inherently that just make it a bad consumer product
decision right now, that its just not... its just a bad
decision altogether. I've detailed some of them if
you don't believe me."

- Chris Pirillo, July 29th, 2007 9:48pm

See him rant here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBZnF02Lqjg

Then, you can compare that to his comments 5 days later.

"Yes, I'll admit it. I love my iPhone. The experience
of using it is unparalleled by any other mobile device
I've ever used. If you're going to buy an iPhone, don't
do it because of the hype. Do it because it's well
worth it."
- Chris Pirillo, August 04, 2007 11:47pm

"I hate to eat crow. I wasn't wrong about my
original assertions. I still stand by them. Having an
EDGE connection is certainly not as good as having
an EVDO or a 3G connection. A very FAST mobile
connection. But I also... after using it... realized I
would rather have one of these with EDGE, than my
Blackjack with EVDO or 3D speeds."

- Chris Pirillo, August 04, 2007 11:47pm

"I've never enjoyed a mobile device more than I
have the iPhone. And as I wrote in my blog post, I'm
finding myself doing things on here that I never would
have done on any other device, or thought of."

- Chris Pirillo, August 04, 2007 11:47pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcBPVNccRIE

So... I can see how you can have your opinion, and its perfectly valid for you. You might not care about the things that won Chris over, so you may never ever EVER care about it. --It's totally OK. For the rest of us, everything we're ranting about is not even in the same context as it would be for a different phone. So, having say... multiple-SMS on iPhone means more than having multiple-SMS on say a Blackjack or god-forbid, a Motorola i850 or something. At least for some folks.

Unless you experience that productivity boost, you have to understand you're not even reading announcements in the same context as people who really like what they're using (enough to make some compromises).

~ CB
 
First of all I don't live in the United States so I could care less about AT&T. The fact of the mater is Apple wants to cater to a global market. While in the United States people purchase phones directly from retail stores owner by carriers, or partnered with carriers, this is not the same in the rest of the world.

Walk into any electronics store in Europe and Asia and you purchase a phone and insert any SIM card your heart desires.

Now I don't want to turn this into another discussion about the decision to sell locked phones, however one should consider that the demand for unlocked phones is so enormous that it's lead to not only a bunch of software hacks, but also the development and programming of chips that slide over your SIM card and fool the phone into believing it has an AT&T SIM card.

The notion that Apple can prevent this is very foolish in my opinion, because so long as there is a demand, then people will cater to it. Look at the eBay prices for TurboSIM and you'll see a lot of people are making serious money on it. I know that I've unlocked my iPhone and will never accept a locked version. I travel for work and want the freedom to inset local SIM cards into it. I might have to be a bit careful about updating both iTunes and the phone, but I'm confident that solutions will quickly emerge. After-all I'm running 1.1.2 (new bootloader and all) without problems.

I can even go as far as saying that I understand the initial AT&T agreement. Entering the cell phone industry was a major gamble for it. However Apple could have been smarter and released the phone without partners in the rest of the world. They would have cleaned up over Christmas, and the pathetic state of the dollar would have discouraged to many people from buying it overseas. Not to mention it would be an easier battle to reform the cellular industry in America than reforming it in the entire world.

Much of what you write is false. For example:

"Walk into any electronics store in Europe and Asia and you purchase a phone and insert any SIM card your heart desires. "

False. In Germany for example, you have "D" networks (T-Mobile, Vodafone, O2) and you have "E" networks (E-Plus / Base, etc.) You can't use SIM's programmed for "E" networks in cell phones programmed for "D" networks.

I'm not really convinced that the market for unlocked phones is so big as many people believe. The vast majority of iPhone users could care less if the phone is locked or not.

Here in Germany, T-Mobile published a brochure where they explained in detail how Visual Voicemail works. I can't see every cell phone carrier providing the infrastructure to make this key iPhone feature work they way Apple intends for it to, so making the iPhone open doesn't make much sense in that respect.
 
A fairly obscure site, eh?

We get over 2 million unique visitors per month. We've been around since 2004. We've won awards, including BEst Technology Video Podcast.

Just because you don't happen to visit a site doesn't make it obscure :p

Anybody who's ever heard of this site before this raise your hand.

Everybody gets their 15 minutes.
 
Anybody who's ever heard of this site before this raise your hand. Everybody gets their 15 minutes.
If you pay attention to things or if you have a good memory, you'll have HEARD of them. At least in the last few months. The real question is do most people around these parts VISIT GearLive. The answer is probably not. Recognize that Digg turned 15 minutes of fame into one of the most popular tech destinations on the Internet. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for clarifying how long they've been duking it out, whether noticed by the collective conscious of the mainstream or not. I haven't visited TechDirt, BoingBoing, or TechCrunch in forever, but I don't doubt they've got oodles of traffic I wouldn't imagine.

~ CB
 
Recognize that Digg turned 15 minutes of fame into one of the most popular tech destinations on the Internet.

Digg has a gimmick that made them big. And I don't mean gimmick in a bad way. It was a great idea. I just thought it was funny he was defending his geek cred if you will. 'Hey I get hits, man.'
 
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