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I wouldn't be surprised if Apple have disabled some functionality.

They know damn well 'secret' features will be leaked out.

The UI theme may change - it doesn't take long.
 
Jimmni said:
Call me crazy, but I'd not be surprised if Leopard was a free update for Tiger owners - if not all Mac owners.

You're crazy. :) But one thing I would like to see is a free upgrade to iLife for everyone who upgrades Leopard. Or else some kind of Leopard / iLife buy-together discount. That would be most welcome.

rjf
 
Hey u haven't seen the "200 new features". Just kidding. I'm with you. The only upgrade I paid for was from Jag to Panther, I wanted to use Expose. But I only got Tiger due to the fact that it came on new MBPs. This OS release hasn't shown anything that's really worth it. :rolleyes:
FF_productions said:
So far, Leopard is something I'm not willing to pay for.

I expected just a little bit of a UI change, it just looks like a little updated version of Tiger.

I really wonder what these top secret features are because the current features aren't impressing me enough to open my wallet.
 
BenK01 said:
What's the next logical step in a computer interface? I used to say "Computer, show me the money" to open Quicken back in pre-OS X days. More of a gimmick than anything else, but imagine if the Finder and maybe even other apps became "speakable."

Me: "Check mail"

Computer: "You have nine new messages. Would you like me to read them?"

Me: "No, thanks."

(clicks on an email, reads message)

Me: "Reply to this message"

Computer: "Type or speak?

Me: "Type"

type-type-type

Me: "Computer, I'd like to add a photo of the kids to this email."

Computer: "iphoto has 6,813 pictures of the kids, which one would you like?"

Me: "One from the birthday party last week."

Computer: (a strip from iphoto appears) "Here are 23 from last week. I've highlighted the one where your wife fixed the red eye. Is that the one you want?"

Me: "Yes, that will be fine."

Computer adds the picture to stationery in the email, other pictures go away.

Me: "Send the email"

Me: "...and order me a pizza."

This kind of thing can't be too far off. A 75 mhz Performa could do it in a rudimentary way. Imagine what a modern Mac may be able to do. "Speakeasy" has a nice ring to it.
That sounds similar to that Apple advert from years ago whcih showed a concept of the future where you would have a true conversation way of working with a computer. We are slowly, but surely moving there.
 
Sigh, I'm getting the distinct impression that iCal is going to add a bunch of new features and not fix many of the usability problems it already has now. For instance, there is no way to shift several events in time simultaneously, you have to change each one individually. Another is that when you select several events from different calendars and copy and paste them they all turn into the same calendar category.

There are many more problems like these, but I've seen no mention in the preview reports that iCal has done anything to refine the existing features, only that new features are being added. If anyone with a preview can inform me of the contrary I'd be quite happy to hear it.
 
amanset said:
It does vary quite a lot by where you live. Living in Sweden (and coming from the UK) just about everyone I know uses MSN.

Same here, it seems that AIM is only popular within the US. Elsewhere Messenger totally dominates.

I don't know a single person who uses AIM. Not one.
 
rjfiske said:
You're crazy. :) But one thing I would like to see is a free upgrade to iLife for everyone who upgrades Leopard. Or else some kind of Leopard / iLife buy-together discount. That would be most welcome.

rjf

Obviously we'd all like to get something for nothing, but as the newest OS and the newest iApps both come for free with every new Mac, the boxed versions are effectively upgrades and Apple would feel that they're offering them at reduced prices anyway compared to their full value.

But I'd love to be wrong on this.

Which reminds me. Every time I've bought an OS upgrade ( for as long as I can remember - probably back to OS 7 ) there has been a set of coupons included to prove that I purchased it. Has there ever been a scheme where customers actually get something in exchange for those coupons ?
 
AlanAudio said:
Which reminds me. Every time I've bought an OS upgrade ( for as long as I can remember - probably back to OS 7 ) there has been a set of coupons included to prove that I purchased it. Has there ever been a scheme where customers actually get something in exchange for those coupons ?

I believe there was a coupon upgrade program for 10.0 to 10.1. It was a "free" upgrade that cost $19.95 if you ordered the CD from the online store, but there were some copies available free of charge at some retail locations (this was pre-brick and mortar Apple Stores) like CompUSA and Fry's while supplies lasted. Many retailers didn't require proof of 10.0 ownership as the 10.1 was upgrade-only and thus useless to people who didn't have 10.0 installed already, but some asked for proof of purchase for 10.0. The coupon generally satisfied that requirement (as would a sales receipt).
 
Nice if you could assign a Space to a Screen

Hi,

It doesn't look as if Spaces can work this way - but if you have multiple
screens then it would be nice to assign one or more spaces to that screen.

Is that how it works?

Or does it treat the other screens as an extension of the current Space?

Cheers, Ed.
 
Looking forward to it if it is more stable than Tiger. I run Panther on my iBook and Tiger on my G5 iMac and the iBook knocks the socks of the iMac for reliability.

Hopefully they will sort out the horrendous sound quality of imported tracks that I get in iTunes when I import them on my G5 iMac.

Overall I think Panther was the best version of OSX so far, (because of how stable it was) so I am hoping this one is as good as that!
 
But when do we get to see the wallpaper?

What's the main wallpaper look like? Is this going to change before the final release, or is it going to be the same like Vista's Beta?
 
Some more features

Mail now has*RSS Support

Screensaver shows timer when locking the screen if you have it set to require a password.

Installers now make a chime when done.
 
MSN on Mac

jameshopkins said:
Whats happening with iChat, are they getting it to work with MSN Messenger networks like with AOL?

I have just switched to Mac, and it's annoying I cant Video Conference with any MSN Messenger users (MSN Messenger on Mac doesnt support it). iChat is awesome but I have no contacts, lol. Anyone know of any other way, I have tried AdiumX and looked into Jabber.

You can use aMsn an open-source MSN client which supports web cams (including the embedded iSight).
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/download.php
It's available as a universal binary.

Matt
 
Safari tab prompt bummer!

C'mon, Opera has had the ability to save the open tabs for, what, 5-6 years? Safari is really so broken that they have to prompt to close the tabs instead of just saving the state so it can be brought back up next time it's launched?
 
Applespider said:
The Exposé in Spaces screenshot is wild...

And agree with Chundles that until we see ALL of Leopard's features listed, there's no way you can make a valid purchase decision on it.

Understand, I am not suggesting how you should spend your money. This is just another opinion. But, I have been through all the 'cats' from the .0 release on. I have never had reason to complain.

Apple may not be perfect, but they sure beat the pants off Brand X. I have been working in IT since 1981. I have spent the vast majority of time with Workstations and PC's. These include every incarnation of DOS and Windows, SPARC/Sun, SGI/MIPS, OS/2, and the IBM RS-6000 Series. I am a late arrival to Apple/Macs. In fact, it was somewhat by accident. But, I am now convinced OSX is the finest desktop OS ever made. Until this no longer the case, I will throw my support fully behind the most innovative HW/SW manufacturer in the world. I would gladly pay full price for a beta copy of Leopard right now.
 
MacRumoron said:
i like the new Preview look :)

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Am I the only one that thinks this is potentially the new UI?
 
Stridder44 said:
("Preview" preview)


Am I the only one that thinks this is potentially the new UI?
I hope so, because they could easily make a nice "preview" like the dark floating controls in iPhoto.
Someone suggested that earlier, and I though it was a good idea, and then I remembered I had the same idea the other day. Great minds think alike, so this must happen.
 
MooVitZ said:
Is anyone else bothered by the button to buy more batteries?

Frisco said:
Yes, it seems like a Microsoft thing.

It's actually a very Apple thing to do. Apple has always been about making a totally integrated, complete end-to-end computing environment and Apple has also always been dedicated to transforming things that had been difficult for non-techies to do into some so simple and effective that even advanced technical users decide it's the best method. This is probably not the first time an option to buy hardware has been built into software, but just like Time Machine is revolutionary because it's the first SIMPLE file-by-file backup system and not because it's the first backup system ever, so too this "Buy Battery" button is revolutionary because of how simple and integrated it is.

I'm hardly an Apple apologist, I complain quite loudly when they do things that are lame. But I think this is a very Apple thing to do and a feature that isn't just a built in advertisement. If I had an OS X button to buy a new battery when I wanted one, rather than tracking down the battery model number I needed and having to worry about who to buy from and bothering with technical details, I'd definitely appreciate being able to just click that button.

Making the entire computer experience simple, easy and fun is what Apple has always been about, and this is a natural continuation of those ideals. In fact, I hope they expand this functionality to include upgrading ram and hard disks (as long as they don't go overboard with the prices like in the b.t.o. options at the apple store).

Really this is a wonderful new breakthrough in Apple's quest for computing easiness.
 
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