In Apples WWDC video from 2006 they told the developers to have their apps ready for resolution independence by 2008.
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In Apples WWDC video from 2006 they told the developers to have their apps ready for resolution independence by 2008.
see? like, finished, or see, like another release to developers?
i love how people can say "xyz will be released on abc date", and be completely serious, and expect people to take them seriously, and yet give absolutely NO indication of any sort as to WHY they think that. without PROOF, thats what it is. an opinion. a thought.
I think Apple's timeline was always 'final' Leopard announced a week or so before WWDC and a countdown clock to availability on the day. This would have to be worst-case as they would not want to be any later.
Don't know if we will see hardware announcements before this or not. I hope we do, but if Apple is waiting for some reason or another then i think they know what they are doing -- I am sure they are not just pissing us off and not releasing anything when they could. I do trust Apple.
As for the iLife update -- will the software require something only available with Leopard or will iLife work for the rest of us on Tiger -- or a combination of both? There has got to be a reason we are nearly in April and there is no iLife, but I don't for the iLife of me know why.
Apple has to please both users and stockholders and I am sure the stock won't stay 'up' if nothing new comes out in the first half of the year -- so that leaves everything till end of June at the latest....mmmm WWDC is in June?
Don't know if we will see hardware announcements before this or not. I hope we do, but if Apple is waiting for some reason or another then i think they know what they are doing -- I am sure they are not just pissing us off and not releasing anything when they could. I do trust Apple.
As for the iLife update -- will the software require something only available with Leopard or will iLife work for the rest of us on Tiger -- or a combination of both? There has got to be a reason we are nearly in April and there is no iLife, but I don't for the iLife of me know why.
Apple has to please both users and stockholders and I am sure the stock won't stay 'up' if nothing new comes out in the first half of the year -- so that leaves everything till end of June at the latest....mmmm WWDC is in June?
i seem to remember a Steve quote along the lines of "leopard: it's all included" or "it's all in there" or something, indicating that ilife/iwork MAY be included with the OS (again) for "free".
Late Spring
The vernal equinox in the Northern Hemisphere occurred on March 20, 2007, at precisely 8:07 P.M. EDT (March 21, 00:07 Universal Time). The first day of Spring! WooHoo!The SUMMER SOLSTICE does not happen until JUNE 21 2007 18:06 GMT. So the last day of Spring is June 20th, 2007.
Late spring could be a possibility for Leopard!
The vernal equinox in the Northern Hemisphere occurred on March 20, 2007, at precisely 8:07 P.M. EDT (March 21, 00:07 Universal Time). The first day of Spring! WooHoo!The SUMMER SOLSTICE does not happen until JUNE 21 2007 18:06 GMT. So the last day of Spring is June 20th, 2007.
Late spring could be a possibility for Leopard!
I dont see why AppleTV shipping a few weeks late is an indication of anything, but people again and again keep using it as evidence that Leopard is probably going to ship late. Urm, Why? They are completely different things.
I don't think there's any reason to believe that 10.5 going to ship late at this moment in time, they still have a few months to put everything together. So lets assume for a moment that it will come out in June, which has the WWDC and is the end of spring.
If we assume this, then the thing going through my mind is this... Surely Jobs needs to announce the final line up of features sometime before its finished?
Everyone is trying to guess when it will come out, but I think we should all be trying to guess when Jobs will make the announcement about when its coming out, and in doing so give us the final secret features.
I don't think there's any reason to believe that 10.5 going to ship late at this moment in time, they still have a few months to put everything together. So lets assume for a moment that it will come out in June, which has the WWDC and is the end of spring.
If we assume this, then the thing going through my mind is this... Surely Jobs needs to announce the final line up of features sometime before its finished?
Everyone is trying to guess when it will come out, but I think we should all be trying to guess when Jobs will make the announcement about when its coming out, and in doing so give us the final secret features.
It isn't that the AppleTV shipped late - it is that after there were reports that it would, Apple came out publicly and denied them, saying it was on track. And then, it was delayed. So people are saying that one can't trust the Apple representatives when they say that Leopard is on schedule.
I agree with you here. I don't think there are any indications that it is actually late.
Apple isn't being "silent" about Leopard's release date. They merely being "modest." 
The I Ching Online answer to your question, "will leopard ship on time" is:
March 27, 107
15. Ch'ien - Modesty
-- --
-- -- above K'un The Receptive, Earth
-- --
-----
-- -- below Kên Keeping Still, Mountain
-- --
The Judgement
Modesty creates success.
The superior man carries things through.
The Image
Within the earth, a mountain:
The image of Modesty.
Thus the superior man reduces that which is too much,
And augments that which is too little.
He weighs things and makes them equal.
Changing Lines
Changing yin at the bottom means:
A superior man modest about his modesty
May cross the great water.
Good fortune.
Changing yin in the second place means:
Modesty that comes to expression.
Perseverance brings good fortune.
Changing yang in the third place means:
A superior man of modesty and merit
Carries things to conclusion.
Good fortune.
Changing yin in the fourth place means:
Nothing that would not further modesty
In movement.
Changing yin in the fifth place means:
No boasting of wealth before one's neighbor.
It is favorable to attack with force.
Nothing that would not further.
Changing yin at the top means:
Modesty that comes to expression.
It is favorable to set armies marching
To chastise one's own city and one's country.
The I Ching Online answer to your question, "will leopard ship on time" is:
March 27, 107
15. Ch'ien - Modesty
-- --
-- -- above K'un The Receptive, Earth
-- --
-----
-- -- below Kên Keeping Still, Mountain
-- --
The Judgement
Modesty creates success.
The superior man carries things through.
The Image
Within the earth, a mountain:
The image of Modesty.
Thus the superior man reduces that which is too much,
And augments that which is too little.
He weighs things and makes them equal.
Changing Lines
Changing yin at the bottom means:
A superior man modest about his modesty
May cross the great water.
Good fortune.
Changing yin in the second place means:
Modesty that comes to expression.
Perseverance brings good fortune.
Changing yang in the third place means:
A superior man of modesty and merit
Carries things to conclusion.
Good fortune.
Changing yin in the fourth place means:
Nothing that would not further modesty
In movement.
Changing yin in the fifth place means:
No boasting of wealth before one's neighbor.
It is favorable to attack with force.
Nothing that would not further.
Changing yin at the top means:
Modesty that comes to expression.
It is favorable to set armies marching
To chastise one's own city and one's country.
Apple isn't being "silent" about Leopard's release date. They merely being "modest."
The I Ching Online answer to your question, "will leopard ship on time" is:
March 27, 107
15. Ch'ien - Modesty
-- --
-- -- above K'un The Receptive, Earth
-- --
-----
-- -- below Kên Keeping Still, Mountain
-- --
The Judgement
Modesty creates success.
The superior man carries things through.
The Image
Within the earth, a mountain:
The image of Modesty.
Thus the superior man reduces that which is too much,
And augments that which is too little.
He weighs things and makes them equal.
Changing Lines
Changing yin at the bottom means:
A superior man modest about his modesty
May cross the great water.
Good fortune.
Changing yin in the second place means:
Modesty that comes to expression.
Perseverance brings good fortune.
Changing yang in the third place means:
A superior man of modesty and merit
Carries things to conclusion.
Good fortune.
Changing yin in the fourth place means:
Nothing that would not further modesty
In movement.
Changing yin in the fifth place means:
No boasting of wealth before one's neighbor.
It is favorable to attack with force.
Nothing that would not further.
Changing yin at the top means:
Modesty that comes to expression.
It is favorable to set armies marching
To chastise one's own city and one's country.
So it's next Tuesday, then!
Really, does it matter if Leopard comes out today, tomorrow or October? Sure, people want to see the new features. Odds are good that there are no "new" features, just features that are newly included with OS X.
Spaces? Linux window managers (KDE/GNOME, etc) have had them for years.
Time Machine? Just another reason for losers not to buy an external drive and backup properly. Time Machine won't help you if you get the flashing question mark on startup.
Resolution independence? Worthwhile to be sure, but hardly the most pressing feature to include.
Upgraded Mail and Safari? Woopee.
New chromakey functionality in iChat so you can alter your background? I can't think of a better use of top-notch programmer talent.
Give me a more stable, more secure, more interoperable operating system that lets me get my work done more quickly/efficiently. If you're going to tweak iChat, make it autoconfigurable so you don't get router errors or add [insert name of preferred IM protocol here] interoperability. If you want to update things, update the programs that matter in ways that matter.
I never met a switcher who said, "I really wanted an IM program that would let me chromakey a picture of Paris at night behind me."
Pubb
Spaces? Linux window managers (KDE/GNOME, etc) have had them for years.
Time Machine? Just another reason for losers not to buy an external drive and backup properly. Time Machine won't help you if you get the flashing question mark on startup.
Resolution independence? Worthwhile to be sure, but hardly the most pressing feature to include.
Upgraded Mail and Safari? Woopee.
New chromakey functionality in iChat so you can alter your background? I can't think of a better use of top-notch programmer talent.
Give me a more stable, more secure, more interoperable operating system that lets me get my work done more quickly/efficiently. If you're going to tweak iChat, make it autoconfigurable so you don't get router errors or add [insert name of preferred IM protocol here] interoperability. If you want to update things, update the programs that matter in ways that matter.
I never met a switcher who said, "I really wanted an IM program that would let me chromakey a picture of Paris at night behind me."
Pubb
I don't know about *your* Mac but *my* Mac already is stable, secure and interoperable thereby allowing me to get my work done quickly and efficiently. Now....give me the damn picture of Paris behind me in iChat!
No, he was referring to BootCamp, PhotoBooth and FrontRow. There was no mention of bundling iLife or iWork, but its obvious both products have close ties to Leopard why the next versions are not available yet.
Uh, Apple TV and Leopard I believe share a lot of characteristics and dependencies. Apple TV uses a variant of the OS X operating system, its running a Intel processor which Leopard also runs on. Its basically a mini PC, it also has a hard disk, which Leopard runs on. So they share a lot.
maybe 
tv shipped late so that they could get it properly integrated with Leopard and NOT that Leopard was "behind"?
maybe the stripped down os is needing the tweaks to it?
which could also tie in with any iPhone work being done at this present time.
but who knows...
tv shipped late so that they could get it properly integrated with Leopard and NOT that Leopard was "behind"?maybe the stripped down os is needing the tweaks to it?
which could also tie in with any iPhone work being done at this present time.
but who knows...
3d sounds awesome. Yes please. Ilife, not sure about iwork both will probably be included with leopard and i reckon we will hear about it @ NAB. If not then it will definatly be launched at WWDC but I seriosuly doubt it, but remember that tiger was lauched at the end of April. So either April or June or maybe even May and maybe even March. But leopard will be lauched by the end of the WWDC keynote.
From that article:
"The timing of Apples announcement makes perfect sense. Its a clear two months ahead of the World Wide Developers conference in June, where Apples has publicly scheduled workshops and master classes on Leopards new features a pointless exercise if developers havent got their hands on it yet."
Despite some grammatical errors, that makes sense...if it weren't for the existence of DEVELOPER PREVIEWS.
"The timing of Apples announcement makes perfect sense. Its a clear two months ahead of the World Wide Developers conference in June, where Apples has publicly scheduled workshops and master classes on Leopards new features a pointless exercise if developers havent got their hands on it yet."
Despite some grammatical errors, that makes sense...if it weren't for the existence of DEVELOPER PREVIEWS.
Here's another tidbit from the Developer page
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ada/rules.html
The APPLE DESIGN AWARDS 2007 Contest (“Contest”), which is sponsored by Apple Inc. (“Apple”), begins Monday, March 12, 2007 and ends 5 PM (Pacific Time) Monday, April 23, 2007. The CONTEST recognizes outstanding achievement and excellence in Mac OS X software design.
Eligible Entries :
If entered in the BEST MAC OS X LEOPARD APPLICATION category:
Must execute directly on Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard build 9A343 (or later).
May be a pre-release version (or better).
Please notice the minimum build number.It is 9A343.NOT the current build of 9A343a.The "a" being the operative key here.
There is a 9A343a AND and 9A343b ( internal build) I'm guessing.
This tells me another and more refined build will be coming out real soon.
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ada/rules.html
The APPLE DESIGN AWARDS 2007 Contest (“Contest”), which is sponsored by Apple Inc. (“Apple”), begins Monday, March 12, 2007 and ends 5 PM (Pacific Time) Monday, April 23, 2007. The CONTEST recognizes outstanding achievement and excellence in Mac OS X software design.
Eligible Entries :
If entered in the BEST MAC OS X LEOPARD APPLICATION category:
Must execute directly on Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard build 9A343 (or later).
May be a pre-release version (or better).
Please notice the minimum build number.It is 9A343.NOT the current build of 9A343a.The "a" being the operative key here.
There is a 9A343a AND and 9A343b ( internal build) I'm guessing.
This tells me another and more refined build will be coming out real soon.
scary... I was just looking at that as well and was going to post it.
stop freakin' me out!!
Nope, that's not it. I'm betting on April. Time machine refers to the fact that they are ditching the "i" and going back to the Mac. This would make the "i" line personal and portable(iphone,ipod), the mac line for computing (mac, macbook, mbp, mac pro), and the new "apple line, ala' apple tv the begining of something totally different. Expect the imac to go away at wwdc and the mac to return....or maybe dare I say it, the reintroduction of the Macintosh!