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More MacBook LED and Santa Rosa Rumors

These rumors are the only thing keeping me from buying one right now!

The closer we get to WWDC, the more it seems they will be debuted there. I thought the iphone and leopard were going to hog the spotlight, but with all the new stuff they'll be highlighting, everyone's head will be spinning, then they'll all throw up.
 
Whistleway said:
Really, why? The current line is just doing fine and they can get more profits as Intel will slash their non-SR chip prices..
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uhm... if you used that logic then there's no need to work on 10.5 and tiger is doing just fine and they could get more profits since their OS team could be reduced. or working on a 3g ipod nano, 6g ipod, 4g imac, etc... apple doesn't thrive because their product lines are doing "just fine", apple thrives because what they have is never good enough (for them).

additionally when the robson based santa rosas start getting tested, the current line up will not be doing just fine. aside from the speed bumps and battery life, hybrid drives are going to be the biggest deal for laptops since active matrix displays.
 
Well, SANTA ROSA should include a new GPU chipset, right ?

...so I guess Macbooks have at least the same probability to be updated as the MBPs if not higher ( but that would look bad for MBPs buyers )...

My vote is for a whole new 'books line-up in the next few weeks. :cool:
 
Macrumors said:
Appleinsider, however posts claims that a Santa Rosa based MacBook Pro is expected in the "second quarter of the year with an 800MHz frontside bus and second generation Core 2 Duo mobile processors ranging up to 2.4GHz with 4MB of L2 cache.
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Wait, so how is this a good upgrade?
My 2.16ghz C2D MBP has a FSB of 667mhz and 4mb of L2 cache. A 2.33ghz MBP is already available. How is a .07ghz CPU speed increase and small FSB increase noteworthy? I mean yeah, it would technically be a bit faster, but not noticably. And the MBP's won't benefit from the GMA3000 (though I suppose they'll likely get a video card upgrade of their own).
My point is, unless both lines get the LED screens, this seems like little more than a standard speed bump. Nothing that justifies "who's waiting for Santa Rosa" threads... :rolleyes:
 
mopppish said:
Wait, so how is this a good upgrade?
My 2.16ghz C2D MBP has a FSB of 667mhz and 4mb of L2 cache. A 2.33ghz MBP is already available. How is a .07ghz CPU speed increase and small FSB increase noteworthy? I mean yeah, it would technically be a bit faster, but not noticably. And the MBP's won't benefit from the GMA3000 (though I suppose they'll likely get a video card upgrade of their own).
My point is, unless both lines get the LED screens, this seems like little more than a standard speed bump. Nothing that justifies "who's waiting for Santa Rosa" threads... :rolleyes:
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Well, if they get the Turbo Memory NAND flash part of Santa Rosa, then yes, this will be noteworthy. If not, I am with you.
 
mopppish said:
Wait, so how is this a good upgrade?
My 2.16ghz C2D MBP has a FSB of 667mhz and 4mb of L2 cache. A 2.33ghz MBP is already available. How is a .07ghz CPU speed increase and small FSB increase noteworthy? I mean yeah, it would technically be a bit faster, but not noticably. And the MBP's won't benefit from the GMA3000 (though I suppose they'll likely get a video card upgrade of their own).
My point is, unless both lines get the LED screens, this seems like little more than a standard speed bump. Nothing that justifies "who's waiting for Santa Rosa" threads... :rolleyes:
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Why not? Isn't that we used to always get from Motorola?
 
Wwdc

I don't know much about rumors, but the logical thing for Apple to do would be to introduce the Santa Rosa MacBook Pros with LED backlights at the WWDC keynote - unless Apple has some other new and cool stuff that will be introduced that we don't know about...
 
Already Ordered!

I'm not too sure if it is common now, but my MBP that was ordered at the beginning of the week isn't slated to ship until next week. In the past my orders have shipped quickly and I know that shipping lags usually mean product change, right? Or is Apple shipping so many of these now that the lag is a manufacturing issue?
 
shawnce said:
One reason is what platform expert and driver changes need to be made so that Mac OS X can support the new hardware platform. It shouldn't be a lot of work but Apple may wait until Leopard to bring out the needed hardware support or they may bring it out with a 10.4 patch/update (I personally believe the latter).
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yeah, good point regarding the OS support, but I just don't see them waiting until the new OS is out to slip in the Santa Rosas. They would lose the back to school sales. Not gonna happen. They'll update soon.

Maybe they'll even throw in a free upgrade certificate for the new OS since it was originally supposed to be out in June. That would be a really pleasant surprise.
 
Hmmmm but why not OLED? It's been what - half a year - since Sony demonstrated OLED displays up to 17" wasn't it? Oh well, I can dream can't I... :)
 
While Santa Rosa is now official, there are no SR machines shipping yet (except for a handfull of review machines), and it will be a while before they are available in the kind of volume Apple needs for a full scale release. I know they got away with that for the Octo-Pro but the volumes needed here are massivly different.

When Merom was the new Intel release, people were complaining that they could already configure Dell, HP etc machines with it before Apple anounced the updates. In terms of customers getting their products, Apple wasn't any later than anyone else, for at least one product line.

It doesn't really make much sense to announce replacements for existing products before they can ship otherwise you will just end up losing sales.
 
End of May: New MBP (shipping next month) with LED
June: New iMac and Mac Mini (including SR) with MacBooks small upgrade to SR and of course the Jesus Phone.
October/November: New MacBooks, new iPods

You read it here... :apple:
 
Whattttttttt!!!!

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I thought that the PERK for Apple to work with INTEL was being the first to relase new stuff.:confused: :confused: :confused: Like the Octo beast.

You mean that PC users get the Santa Rosa Platform before we do????

What is up with that!!!:mad: :mad:
 
Bizmac said:
End of May: New MBP (shipping next month) with LED
June: New iMac and Mac Mini (including SR) with MacBooks small upgrade to SR and of course the Jesus Phone.
October/November: New MacBooks, new iPods

You read it here... :apple:
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Yes - that is why I wouldn't believe it :D
 
Macrumors said:


With the arrival of the first PC Santa Rosa based laptops, several rumors have sprung up about expectations for Apple to follow suit.

A Page 2 Rumor from Gizmodo claims that a Santa Rosa-based MacBook Pro could be coming as early as next week. This "rumor" however is credited as "informed speculation" and cites a "channel partner" as the source. Historically, channel partners have had no inside knowlege of upcoming model refreshes from Apple, so this source is difficult to believe. Appleinsider, however posts claims that a Santa Rosa based MacBook Pro is expected in the "second quarter of the year with an 800MHz frontside bus and second generation Core 2 Duo mobile processors ranging up to 2.4GHz with 4MB of L2 cache

Meanwhile, CrunchGear counters this with a rumor claim of their own from their "source who works with Apple". According to their report, Santa Rosa based MacBooks will not be coming in the next few weeks or months. Instead, they claim that LED based laptops rumors are true and coming "in the next month". (Well, they actually say "OLED" but we presume they mistyped since there have been no OLED MacBook rumors).

While we have little historical context for CrunchGear's accuracy, their claim does correlate with ThinkSecret's claim that 15.4" LED MacBook Pros will be seen at WWDC (June 2007).
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May we conclude that nobody knows a darn thing? :rolleyes:
 
Blackslider

johnee said:
These rumors are the only thing keeping me from buying one right now!


Darn. Me too. A few days ago I actually had reached a point where I was going to stop visiting the site for a month and considered just hitting the buy button. I was actually feeling really happy, telling myself that Core 2 Duo doesn't exactly suck, and that I would have the best computer I could buy on the market today :)

Then, like a drug addict, but I back-slid. Darn!!! Now I'm back into the "AAARRRRRRRGGGGG" mode.:mad: :mad:

Perhaps we need to start an AA.
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GanleyBurger said:
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I thought that the PERK for Apple to work with INTEL was being the first to relase new stuff.:confused: :confused: :confused: Like the Octo beast.

You mean that PC users get the Santa Rosa Platform before we do????

What is up with that!!!:mad: :mad:
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PC People announce products earlier, using Merom, the only example we have, there is very little difference in terms of when at leat one significant product line is available in large numbers.

[The octo chips Apple are using are very low yield,but Apple only need a few to meet demand.]

With this, Apple will want to have at least one of its 3 big product lines ready to go with the new tech, and hence there it wont accept low inital supplies, which is why some reviewers got Merom machines early - they were inital low-yield runs. This is not Apple practice and with merom Apple got its machine out to consumers in proper numbers no later than anyone else
 
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