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More MacBook LED and Santa Rosa Rumors

GanleyBurger said:
.I thought that the PERK for Apple to work with INTEL was being the first to relase new stuff.:confused: :confused: :confused: Like the Octo beast.
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Apple has been behind the other vendors on most Intel introductions - the only exception was that they shipped an octo-core system 5 months late, but with CPUs that were 12% faster than what the other guys were shipping. It's now possible to get the 12% faster CPUs elsewhere as well, so Apple's "exclusive" was very short-lived.
 
AlmostThere said:
Apple are certainly not shy about announcing new products well before they are widely available!
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Allow me to rephrase that..Apple don't announce replacements before they are available. (Macbook, iMac). With ATV and iPhone announcing these products early aren't going to have a significant effect on sales of existing product lines [o.k. you could argue the toss about iPhone canabalising iPod sales, but the latest sales figures show that iPod is still healthy sales-wise, and the market awareness is invaluable]
 
mopppish said:
Wait, so how is this a good upgrade?
My 2.16ghz C2D MBP has a FSB of 667mhz and 4mb of L2 cache. A 2.33ghz MBP is already available. How is a .07ghz CPU speed increase and small FSB increase noteworthy? I mean yeah, it would technically be a bit faster, but not noticably. And the MBP's won't benefit from the GMA3000 (though I suppose they'll likely get a video card upgrade of their own).
My point is, unless both lines get the LED screens, this seems like little more than a standard speed bump. Nothing that justifies "who's waiting for Santa Rosa" threads... :rolleyes:
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Don't forget better battery life because power consumption has gone down while the processor speeds have gone up, however small.
 
I don't really care if it's next week or at WWDC; as long as it's a good revision with great specs. I'd rather see these 'sources' to give some more details on the hardware than on the date :)
 
it doesnt seem long since i got my macbook pro at the last update and everyone was saying wait for the santa rosa

but that was 6 months ago! im glad i didnt wait, i would have had to go all the way without a laptop!
 
But what about the desktops? The Mac Mini in particular - No rumours at all. I'm guessing it will get just the leftovers.
 
MacSA said:
But what about the desktops? The Mac Mini in particular - No rumours at all. I'm guessing it will get just the leftovers.
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The best Mini will be Santa Rosa by July/August for sure. They could be selling a lot of Minis, and I bet they are moving almost none at the moment. As it is configured, it isn't a very good buy, but the form is terrific.
 
Where is my 12" MBP in all these rumors???

1440x900, 12" (13" max!), Graphic Card (ATI or NVDA), ExpressCard, Core2 Duo, dual diplay and video mirroring, iSight, Frontrow, Remote, <4 pounds...

Damn, it is not so difficult, Steve! :apple:
Please.
Your price is mine...
 
Good news

I'm really excited about the LED screens, but I'm glad that I didn't wait for them. I hemmed and hawed and chewed my nails for months, fretting over getting the latest, greatest machine. "I really NEED Santa Rosa," I told myself. I feel pretty foolish now. My BlackBook is so rockin' it hurts. So fast, so luxurious, so sleek. To think that I could've been enjoying this machine for months! So silly. I'm really happy with my purchase.

At any rate, this is great news. The mercury vapor in traditional screens is a big problem if it's not handled properly. LED screens are a step in the right direction. Not to mention the benefits for Pros who need greater color accuracy . . Go Apple!
 
Sorry, more form me.

First laptop announced (I think) with the new ATI notebook chip, the Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB. Saying that the new 8series Nvidia chips are available.

With the AMD/ATI merger do people think Apple will avoid ATI.
 
netdog said:
The best Mini will be Santa Rosa by July/August for sure. They could be selling a lot of Minis, and I bet they are moving almost none at the moment. As it is configured, it isn't a very good buy, but the form is terrific.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple abandon the Mac Mini altogether in favour of evolving the Apple TV.

As you say yourself, it isn't a very good buy right now, in fact I would go further and say it is the poorest value computer you can buy from any manufacturer at the moment.
 
furious said:
Enough rumours. We want cold hard facts.
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Santa Rosa laptops are shipping in Korea this week.

Apple has, as of late, NOT been the earliest adopter of widely adopted Intel platforms. In fact Apple often waits for not one "major revision part", but two or more MRP's to make their release.

Candidates include

Santa Rosa itself
price drops on flash
price drops on existing C2D and minor bumps of same
dieshrink C2D (and also C2Q)
wireless support chips offering .11a/g/n and .16 wimax
LCD lit displays
Much higher density displays supported by Leopard
TOUCH SENSITIVE displays
Internal micro-raid (time machine)

Remember Apple WANTS to bring us all this stuff, but now that it is on sales volume parity with the larger players it can no longer be bleeding edge, even if it wants to. It can only be mid-leading edge. The good news is the three month delay for adoption of something like Santa Rosa lets other components ramp in production or if ramped, drop in price.

It's a new world. Apple has large scale sales and is "supply constrained".

Rocketman
 
mopppish said:
Wait, so how is this a good upgrade?
My 2.16ghz C2D MBP has a FSB of 667mhz and 4mb of L2 cache. A 2.33ghz MBP is already available. How is a .07ghz CPU speed increase and small FSB increase noteworthy? I mean yeah, it would technically be a bit faster, but not noticably. And the MBP's won't benefit from the GMA3000 (though I suppose they'll likely get a video card upgrade of their own).
My point is, unless both lines get the LED screens, this seems like little more than a standard speed bump. Nothing that justifies "who's waiting for Santa Rosa" threads... :rolleyes:
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Thank you. That's what I meant in my earlier post as to why Apple won't release in a matter of 2 weeks. They would take their time on it. Just my guess.
 
MacSA said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple abandon the Mac Mini altogether in favour of evolving the Apple TV.

As you say yourself, it isn't a very good buy right now, in fact I would go further and say it is the poorest value computer you can buy from any manufacturer at the moment.
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As long as they keep a headless low-cost model, I'll be happy. I'm just waiting for an update to change my Mac mini G4/1.42GHz. The current ones aren't even Core 2 Duo, and Santa Rosa is now available. They'll have to finally update the Mac mini or replace it with something else. How about the same form factor as the :apple:TV but as thick as a Mac mini? With a decent GPU and dedicated VRAM again? ;-)
 
Bobthemonkey said:
Sorry, more form me.

First laptop announced (I think) with the new ATI notebook chip, the Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB. Saying that the new 8series Nvidia chips are available.

With the AMD/ATI merger do people think Apple will avoid ATI.
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I don't think they should be avoiding any company. They are better off just using whatever performs better. I've had a couple computers with ATI cards (2 PC and a laptop), and it's unfair to say ATI puts out an inferior product line. HOWEVER, right now it seems nvidia has faster gpu's for notebooks... I'm also an AMD fanboy but I recognize that nothing can really compete with the C2D (did anyone else think it was funny that when C2D was first put in macbook pro's, steve talked about how it had 40 % more performance per watt, as if performance per watt really meant anything. How about some real numbers please?)

And to everyone happy with your purchases: you are happy now, we'll see who is kicking themselves later. It always works that way, by the time you get your hands on something someone else gets something "better". You have your glory now, we'll have ours later :)
 
When refering to "Macbooks" or "Books" people should make it clear if they are refering to all, the consumer or the pro.

Based on what I have read so far it looks like the MacBook Pro wil be first, we are probably looking at August or Sept for the consumer MacBook.
 
MacSA said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple abandon the Mac Mini altogether in favour of evolving the Apple TV.

As you say yourself, it isn't a very good buy right now, in fact I would go further and say it is the poorest value computer you can buy from any manufacturer at the moment.
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I read on another site that apple has not been happy with the mini line, and that if they upgrade it, that will cut into the :apple: tv numbers. Like you, I bet they focus on the :apple: tv, and drop the mini.
 
For me the key thing about SantaRosa would be the ability of handling 4 or more Gigs of RAM onboard instead of the 2 to 3 it can do now.
 
To be truly "bleeding edge" Apple should release one Mac every 2 years or so at Macworld or somewhere that is "leading edge" ala the 20th Anniversary Mac, but with featuritis forward.

That way it can consumerize with less backlash from purists.

If this had already been in place we might have already seen:

Mid-sized Cube
Expandable Mini
iPod 1TB
12" flash/HDD raid MBP

Rocketman
 
Bobthemonkey said:
PC People announce products earlier, using Merom, the only example we have, there is very little difference in terms of when at leat one significant product line is available in large numbers.

[The octo chips Apple are using are very low yield,but Apple only need a few to meet demand.]

With this, Apple will want to have at least one of its 3 big product lines ready to go with the new tech, and hence there it wont accept low inital supplies, which is why some reviewers got Merom machines early - they were inital low-yield runs. This is not Apple practice and with merom Apple got its machine out to consumers in proper numbers no later than anyone else
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Are you kidding me?!!!

Apple almost always announces early and usually is way over sold, delivering late.

Almost every computer product I have bought in the last 10 years from Apple I ordered in the Apple online store. Almost everyone was announced at an Apple event, with delivery a couple of months later. Once ordered, almost every product delivered a month later than initially announced.

The only time Apple seems to be quick with delivery is once sales channels have slowed down a bit and product caught up with demand. Apple did much better with the ipod releases but any new computer especially gen. 1 editions almost always ship late.

I love Apple computers and waiting was just part of true Apple experience.
 
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