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wouldn't doubt that apple wants to scoop them up if they are not already affiliated!
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I hope that you are right and the next Displays are drop dead gorgeous. I am not asking for touch screen though, just something that will knock my socks off and knock all the money out of my wallet. Or they could just lower the prices on the current models.
I hope that you are right and the next Displays are drop dead gorgeous. I am not asking for touch screen though, just something that will knock my socks off and knock all the money out of my wallet. Or they could just lower the prices on the current models.
Yup... you betcha
I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video and he was circling geographic locations.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video and he was circling geographic locations.
to my understanding he dose mean Wii.
i think that he means this because to control the action on the screen you swing the wii remote around. you also use the wii remote freely in space when selecting a menu item (as far as i know this sends infra red signals from the cencer bar to the wii remote then that sends info to the Wii itself ).
this is showing that the wii cant tell where the remote is in proximity (where the remote is compared) to the screen (with out actually making contact to the screen {DS uses touch screen}) and interpret it to commands that control your character or pointer.
so i think that the poster wants something that you can let you just move to perform computing tasks.
hope this answers every thing!
Is it just me, or did anyone else notice how he incorporated Piles into this demo. I mean he grouped the files, stacked them into a pile and then moved them in a zig-zag shape. It defenitely wasnt as clean or as nice looking as the Piles demo, but it was way more realistic. But it was the same thing, circle the files, cross, a little spindle comes up and u can choose from the menu. If you are asking me. Multi touch. Jeff Han. Piles. All seem to be gravitating around Apple right now. I think they are planning something. I mean its no coincidence that we saw the exact same Piles methods in this demo as another demo talking about how Apple has looked back into Piles again. Also the fact that this is running on a Mac. I really want to see what Cards Jobs has got. I hear revolution.
Wow & I don't mean Vista wow.
Did any of you guys download the flash? I want to have a copy of the movie so I can send it to a few of my friends. Thanks
Did any of you guys download the flash? I want to have a copy of the movie so I can send it to a few of my friends. Thanks
I'm sure they have one already if this is being demo'd to the public. Besides that this was quite interesting, like many of you said, the instances that this type of technology could be used in the classroom and the lab are endless. In regards to which Mac will use them the only one I could see this being really productive in is in the tablet (assuming it's made). Having it on my desktop would seem to make things difficult unless I'm satnding which doesnt make sense. The Tablet being hel in your arms or lying on a table would be perfect.
I got a brief look at what desktop software they were running underneath it all and it looked like GNOME thanks to the application bar at the top and the task bar at the bottom, which is the default look to it. This means that there is a fairly good chance that it is running on X11 on a Linux machine!
This came to my mind...
Is the movie related to this --> Still Working on "Piles" Interface? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/277868/
I can see they are working on "piles". Man I can't even start to think how awesome leopard or 10.6 be with those two technologies combined together.
Is the movie related to this --> Still Working on "Piles" Interface? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/277868/
I can see they are working on "piles". Man I can't even start to think how awesome leopard or 10.6 be with those two technologies combined together.
I think this user input method will be implemented heavily soon, and for ALL apps and all types of users. The reason that it will only be practical for a small group at first is because right now everything is, by design, geared towards the mouse/keyboard/display configuration. It's a gradual process, but once it's recognized that this kind of technology is quicker and more intuitive than the current standard, manufacturers, and most importantly, developers will GET BEHIND it. That's all it will take to make it practical for widespread use.
Go back 30 years. From what I gather, the graphic user interface was invented by Xerox employees, but was laughed off the boardroom table by the company executives. This is because it had absolutely no use at the time - no established, usable apps that worked with it - just like multi-touch now. But then, Apple took that idea (stole it with permission) and turned it basically into what we use on all computers today. I can imagine it would have been a long, laborious, and RISKY process to develop, launch, and get industry support for a computer system based on this brand new GUI concept, but it turned out to be much more efficient and useful to lots more people than a blinking cursor. I think multi-touch is going to be the next logical step in UI, it's just that like any innovation that is intended for such widespread use, it will take time for everyone involved to jump on the wagon, and it will have to happen in a very transitional fashion - not a big jump. It will also take some cajones on the part of those who first implement it in a big way - perhaps this is Apple and the iPhone, or perhaps it will be someone else.
I think thats an interesting comment - why not! Another thing that interests me on that note is the question of why Apple allowed Axiotron to make the Modbook. Could it be so that they have a testing device to work with while still in sandbox mode? I'm not counting on any serious touch screen implementation in 10.5, but hell, the iPhone shocked me, and the technology exists....why not?
Go back 30 years. From what I gather, the graphic user interface was invented by Xerox employees, but was laughed off the boardroom table by the company executives. This is because it had absolutely no use at the time - no established, usable apps that worked with it - just like multi-touch now. But then, Apple took that idea (stole it with permission) and turned it basically into what we use on all computers today. I can imagine it would have been a long, laborious, and RISKY process to develop, launch, and get industry support for a computer system based on this brand new GUI concept, but it turned out to be much more efficient and useful to lots more people than a blinking cursor. I think multi-touch is going to be the next logical step in UI, it's just that like any innovation that is intended for such widespread use, it will take time for everyone involved to jump on the wagon, and it will have to happen in a very transitional fashion - not a big jump. It will also take some cajones on the part of those who first implement it in a big way - perhaps this is Apple and the iPhone, or perhaps it will be someone else.
I think thats an interesting comment - why not! Another thing that interests me on that note is the question of why Apple allowed Axiotron to make the Modbook. Could it be so that they have a testing device to work with while still in sandbox mode? I'm not counting on any serious touch screen implementation in 10.5, but hell, the iPhone shocked me, and the technology exists....why not?
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Sup guys, haven't posted here before but figured i'd give it a try. Did anyone see that MAC OS X is the operating system for the video? It is clearly visible in this screenshot (or if you don't believe me then go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysEVYwa-vHM and skip to 3:10 / 3:33.
Notes: Spotlight in top right corner, apple sign in top left. - the rest of the mac toolbar is fairly obvious, and the background appears to be the standard Apple background. Anyway, tell my what ya think?
I imagine Leopard will be the reveal of this, as speculated.
Cheers,
Tom
Sup guys, haven't posted here before but figured i'd give it a try. Did anyone see that MAC OS X is the operating system for the video? It is clearly visible in this screenshot (or if you don't believe me then go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysEVYwa-vHM and skip to 3:10 / 3:33.
Notes: Spotlight in top right corner, apple sign in top left. - the rest of the mac toolbar is fairly obvious, and the background appears to be the standard Apple background. Anyway, tell my what ya think?
I imagine Leopard will be the reveal of this, as speculated.
Cheers,
Tom
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look up a company called touchstream. This guy already had a marketed piece of hardware, but sold out to apple. I bought mine years ago and its still running. BTW- the old devices were fully developed, with microcotrollers that make them appear as a mouse AND keyboard to the computer. Apple is JUST as bad as Microsoft when it comes to buying tech and calling it their own 'innovation', they are just better hucksters. Im kinda bummed that this is probably going to be a Mac only thing.
look up a company called touchstream. This guy already had a marketed piece of hardware, but sold out to apple. I bought mine years ago and its still running. BTW- the old devices were fully developed, with microcotrollers that make them appear as a mouse AND keyboard to the computer. Apple is JUST as bad as Microsoft when it comes to buying tech and calling it their own 'innovation', they are just better hucksters. Im kinda bummed that this is probably going to be a Mac only thing.
As many have pointed out, this is very cool, but not at all usefull for 99% of things even 75% of computer users would use. I think Sachamun has a good point this could be the next big UI much like the mouse and gui came together years ago BUT we need apps and things behind it.
First, think of how you interact. We do a LOT of typing. In the current state of things, this type of UI would not work because we speach recognition seems to have been left out of the OS. I know OSX has speach not sure about Vista and certainly 3rd party apps exist. But after putting in calendars, email programs and making web browsers part of the OS - why has Apple and MS left speach behind? For a UI like the one shown you are going to be moving back and forth between a screen and keyboard. It will be very difficult to catch on en mass. Talk about repetitive motion injury! Screen. Keyboard. Screen. Keyboard. Screen. Keyboard.
Second, what apps do most people use? Web browser is on top of the list I'm sure, along with email program, maybe a calendar, chat and word processing program. These simple apps take up the majority of the average home user time. Zoom in/zoom out some use. Move documents around (piles type interface) potentially useful but like spotlight and expose this will take the masses a ton of time to change habits.
First, think of how you interact. We do a LOT of typing. In the current state of things, this type of UI would not work because we speach recognition seems to have been left out of the OS. I know OSX has speach not sure about Vista and certainly 3rd party apps exist. But after putting in calendars, email programs and making web browsers part of the OS - why has Apple and MS left speach behind? For a UI like the one shown you are going to be moving back and forth between a screen and keyboard. It will be very difficult to catch on en mass. Talk about repetitive motion injury! Screen. Keyboard. Screen. Keyboard. Screen. Keyboard.
Second, what apps do most people use? Web browser is on top of the list I'm sure, along with email program, maybe a calendar, chat and word processing program. These simple apps take up the majority of the average home user time. Zoom in/zoom out some use. Move documents around (piles type interface) potentially useful but like spotlight and expose this will take the masses a ton of time to change habits.
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT RUNNING ON????!
The bit where all those windows were being shifted around with real-time video playing seemlessly, as well as only heaven knows how much VRAM would be needed to handle the huge dual screens, no single machine could handly that, surely - I bet it wasn't a Mac (as much as I hate to say it!). How many tethered PCs did it take to create that wildly impressive demo?!
The bit where all those windows were being shifted around with real-time video playing seemlessly, as well as only heaven knows how much VRAM would be needed to handle the huge dual screens, no single machine could handly that, surely - I bet it wasn't a Mac (as much as I hate to say it!). How many tethered PCs did it take to create that wildly impressive demo?!
Why couldn't it have been tethered Macs? They run 25 tethered PowerMac G5's to run 50 30" ACDs.
http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/hiperwall/
I don't know, I see this technology working for the average consumer, we've been doing things with our hands since forever so... It's all a matter of getting used to it.
The thing is, I couldn't have imagined the iPhone before it was showed by Apple so.. We must presume that whatever they have up their sleeves, we're nowhere close from guessing what it really is
As of now I like my KB and Mouse
The thing is, I couldn't have imagined the iPhone before it was showed by Apple so.. We must presume that whatever they have up their sleeves, we're nowhere close from guessing what it really is
As of now I like my KB and Mouse
I doubt it's going to be Mac only. This is a very innovative concept, and while I'm sure it's been around for a bit now, it is definitely the way of the future.
I can really see this taking off in my field of engineering....Think 3D modeling without having to use a mouse/spaceball. Just flick your finger to rotate the part or pinch them to zoom in/out and drag them to pan the screen. I think it would be way more efficient
Wrong! Just wishful thinking on your part, I'm afraid. Check out the lower icon-bar. That's some flavour of Linux running there.
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The video was also featured about a month ago for fast company.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/112/open_features-canttouchthis.html
The video was also featured about a month ago for fast company.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/112/open_features-canttouchthis.html