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More Multitouch from Jeff Han

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I also do research at nyu mrl, and know jeff a bit - he's ALWAYS working, very friendly, easy to cursorily know.

to answer a few questions:
- jeff has no specific ties to apple. i haven't talked to him in about a month, so maybe they're talking, but (at least) up until recently, he's been doing his own thing.
- this isn't running on a mac. from experience, prototype stuff like this is always done on linux (sometimes solaris) these days. you can clearly see gnome anyway. c'mon, this is academic research - do you really think they use macs?? the hardware is the same these days, of course researchers will use the OS that lets you get as close to the hw as you need to. i could go ask him... but... it would be a stupid question. "who cares?" would be the answer.
- the computer is nothing special... all commercially available hardware
- the display tech is quite inexpensive. it's a projector, a camera, some LEDs, and nice plexiglass. of course, it's a bulky setup.

and to everybody who's doubting this as being useful, just wait...
 
jibberia said:
I also do research at nyu mrl, and know jeff a bit - he's ALWAYS working, very friendly, easy to cursorily know.

to answer a few questions:
- jeff has no specific ties to apple. i haven't talked to him in about a month, so maybe they're talking, but (at least) up until recently, he's been doing his own thing.
- this isn't running on a mac. from experience, prototype stuff like this is always done on linux (sometimes solaris) these days. you can clearly see gnome anyway. c'mon, this is academic research - do you really think they use macs?? the hardware is the same these days, of course researchers will use the OS that lets you get as close to the hw as you need to. i could go ask him... but... it would be a stupid question. "who cares?" would be the answer.
- the computer is nothing special... all commercially available hardware
- the display tech is quite inexpensive. it's a projector, a camera, some LEDs, and nice plexiglass. of course, it's a bulky setup.

and to everybody who's doubting this as being useful, just wait...
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I agree with you and said before it looked like he was using Solaris 10.0
 
Totally SICK

Wait till the Wife hears I need to get me some of this!

But on a purely practical note.....

Doing the large arm movements on a flat screen will result in overstretching at the far end of your reach (RSI in your hand will be a Minor complaint!), so at this scale its only going to work on some curved screen surround scaled for the average John Doe or Jane Doe. The physical constraints of the human frame become the limiting factor... an interesting advance in the use of technology, the human reach and stamina being the limiting factor. Add into the mix eye tracking control, a pair of VR gloves and hell why not VR Shoes and the WII experience suddenly looks very dated.

Now pass that to the workplace.. gone are the Grey Suit and Tie... Next stop NIKE+ workgear. High Performance outfits matched to the new model of work! No longer will computer geeks be seen as couch potatoes, instead highly agile athletes with pinpoint reflexes...Shame he didn't demo excel... ;-P

I can just see the lounge wall replaced with a single sheet of 'display' and the whole family stood at the wall sharing quality time as we 'flick' stuff across the wall to each other with SG-2 playing in the background competing with Tiger Woods and Hugh Grant for real-estate amid the flurry of family activity.. Come to think of it why bother with the other walls, may as well just make the room all 'smugeable' for mucky fingers...
 
Allmec said:
Wait till the Wife hears I need to get me some of this!

But on a purely practical note.....

Doing the large arm movements on a flat screen will result in overstretching at the far end of your reach (RSI in your hand will be a Minor complaint!), so at this scale its only going to work on some curved screen surround scaled for the average John Doe or Jane Doe. The physical constraints of the human frame become the limiting factor... an interesting advance in the use of technology, the human reach and stamina being the limiting factor. Add into the mix eye tracking control, a pair of VR gloves and hell why not VR Shoes and the WII experience suddenly looks very dated.

Now pass that to the workplace.. gone are the Grey Suit and Tie... Next stop NIKE+ workgear. High Performance outfits matched to the new model of work! No longer will computer geeks be seen as couch potatoes, instead highly agile athletes with pinpoint reflexes...Shame he didn't demo excel... ;-P

I can just see the lounge wall replaced with a single sheet of 'display' and the whole family stood at the wall sharing quality time as we 'flick' stuff across the wall to each other with SG-2 playing in the background competing with Tiger Woods and Hugh Grant for real-estate amid the flurry of family activity.. Come to think of it why bother with the other walls, may as well just make the room all 'smugeable' for mucky fingers...
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Did you see the previous video? MUCH smaller scale...
 
It's not the same technology, but you might be interested in this system at UC-Santa Barbara, called the Allosphere. Its a 3-story high sphere with video and audio all the way around you. It would be cool to incorporate this with the multi-touch stuff in this thread.

Link to California Nanosystems Institute.
 
macnews said:
First, think of how you interact. We do a LOT of typing. In the current state of things, this type of UI would not work because we speach recognition seems to have been left out of the OS. I know OSX has speach not sure about Vista and certainly 3rd party apps exist. .
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Yes both do, see Steve's key note at WWDC'06 , enhancements to Universal access, he actually demonstrates the "text to speech" part.
You can allready use the mac to control some of its functions, "open close, copy, tell me a joke" etc since the pre OS X days.... Let's just hope that part is enhanced too.
 
I think that this portends a paradigm shift for workstations in general.

I'm an artist by trade, have been digital since '84 but have missed the old drawing board since then. I want a touch sensitive screen with no lag, in the form of a traditional drawing board, that I can use a stylus and my near atrophied left hand interactively. I want to move the "paper" and draw at the same time like in the real world. A nice 42" "DIGITABLE" with legs or a stand to keep it at a drawing angle woud do nicely. The 24"iMac has been a godsend in the screen real estate area, but is still "old school". The whole look-up to draw-down wacom tablet world is about to be shook up.

Beyond the drawing stuff it could mimic any and all things like audio mixing boards, film editing etc. Even the clutter of my actual desk. This multi-touch sensitive screen stuff just makes me drool.

The "workstation" as a drawing board, or as I used to call it the "digi-table" is an obvious next step in the evolution of the professional studio. Once the ergonomics of the size/flexibility of the work area are worked out the possibilities are endless.

Exciting times indeed.
 
I can't wait for this sort of interface to be available to the public.. and assuming the hand jesters are midi controlled- one could conceivably build themselves the large projection screen device at a modest price... just need to have a $$ projector.. firewire camcorder.. and frosted glass or plexi between them and you.. purty nifty:

http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/
 
Wow!!!!

What can I say? WOW! I want one of those for Christmas!!! :cool:

So when is the Mac version coming out? LOL


Hugh
 
tomkiwitomkiwi said:
Sup guys, haven't posted here before but figured i'd give it a try. Did anyone see that MAC OS X is the operating system for the video? It is clearly visible in this screenshot (or if you don't believe me then go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysEVYwa-vHM and skip to 3:10 / 3:33.
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Sorry to rain on your parade., but the OS they are using is Linux. Apparently Red Hat. The "menubar" in the top of the screen is the standard menubar from GNOME. And look at the Close/Minimize/Maximize-buttons. And there's a GNOME-taskbar in the bottom of the screen with four virtual desktops, no Dock in sight.

You are just seeing what you want to see.
 
s10 said:
If the iPhone runs a slimmed down version of 10.5 than multitouch could well be inside 10.5... and making a tablet or even a laptop with touchscreen much more interesting then any other available equivalent. and yes, Piles would work very well with multitouch.
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I never really took that into consideration, as of now I just dream of the day this will happen. The "slimmed down" version of 10.5 would kinda make it obvious that something like this will be in leopard :)
:apple:
 
a17inchFuture said:
Don't forget the nintendo Wii seems to have similar technology to this, so seeing a convergence of these two ideas in the future doesn't seem out of the question to me at all.
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The Wii works on the concept of a sensor bar emitting infrared and a camera in the controller receiving it to approximate where the screen is. It's not extremely accurate as to the actual screen (it's not EXACTLY where you point it, it just moves with your motions so it feels natural, but if you try to look down the controller like a gun sight you'll see it's not lined up) location.
 
multi-touch MBP!!!

id totally buy one if its under 4000€

imagine 2 screens on the new MBPs no real keyboard but a display that can display whatever you need - like the patent for the switchable keyboard-board.

for example in LOGIC 8...
you have the arragement window on the mainscreen and
you can see the mixer window where the normal keyboard was
and you can swap between everything you need on your "keyboard-space"
without filling up the main screen!!!

did i make myself clear? :D

thatd be awesome!
 
It has been said here before that having the screen up on the wall might be a bit exhausting. So some of you suggested flat or tilted touchscreens or touchscreen-tablets.

I'm not sure you'd really want touchscreen on a tablet - and you probably wouldn't want it on a flat "desktop". Just think: you could never rest your hands or arms on the surface you want to write/work on. There'd have to be some REALLY clever OS behind it to be able to distinguish these involuntary touches from the intended ones.
Just try typing or handwriting your next mail or post without touching the table or any other part of the keyboard other than the key you wish to press. And don't let you fingers linger on any key or you'd get multiple presses. That's why tablet PCs have a stylus.
All the things I have seen in the video would be equally doable if the computer supported additional mice for the other hand or for co-workers.
Sure, the touchscreen is WAY cooler (and I want one,too :D ) but I doubt it would be very useful.
 
Wow - this is really cool.

PORN will never be the same! :D

I wonder how much a BSE will cost for this thing?
 
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