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Originally posted by WishIWasntHere
How about starting an ipoditunesrumors.com and keep the focus of macrumors.com on the *Macintosh*? It seems the majority of postings lately are all about iPods and iTunes related subjects. That's not why I visit this web site and it's information I don't care about.

But, then again, that's just me.

Cough..cough."bitter"..cough.
 
Originally posted by mrsebastian
i respect that we all have opinions, but what is all the fuss about? this has nothing to do with anything, but demographics. who is apple targeting? teens and young adults. what are they most likely to buy for themselves without their parents involved? fast food and soda of course.

this about bringing apple into the mainstream and gaining market share. as a stock holder i couldn't be happier with apple, because they actually have an opportunity to start rivaling our mortal enemy m$.

From Monty Python's Life of Brian:

Brian: "Brothers! Brothers! We should be struggling together!"
Francis: "We are!"
Brian: "We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should be united against the common enemy!"
Everyone: "The Judean People's Front?!"
Brian: "No, no! The Romans!"
Everyone: "Oh, yeah. Yeah."


Anyway, the 7-11 cup scheme sounds like a good plan, seeing as the grocery stores and Targets around here aren't carrying the PepsiTunes bottles yet.

So if I "steal" extra cups to win songs from a service that keeps me from wanting to steal music... where does that leave me? 😀
 
Parts of this Mac community can't see past their own mice.

The only people that (at this stage) that are being "enticed" to buy food and drink that they don't normally buy, is we the Mac community. That's right, for the 98% of the U.S. (50% of which have probably never heard of Apple or iTMS) this isn't going to do anything for them. Apple gets away with a much bigger deal than McD ever will.

For the average consumer they will go to McD as they always do, and upon purchasing what they always will, find that they won a free song at some website called "www.apple.com" and maybe they should visit it.

I would be interested to see what kind of % gains Pepsi and McD actaully get from a promotion like this. Sure, I for one may consider buying a pepsi now instead, but I'm more of a sprite/7-up guy and I'm hoping to find a promotion there.
But, I have never attempted to take advatage of any kind of promotion in the past, at least not by buying the product. The only reason I will with pepsi/iTMS is, well, of course, I'm a Mac user 😀

Tyler
Earendil

[Edit: now it even makes sense!]
[2nd Edit: Improved readablitity for people that aren't me]]
 
I think Apple might be squandering the opportunity to get everyones attention with this by not advertising it. They could have told people about the 7-11 promo but they are not, they are probably leaving it to 7-11 to do so. Do they think they are so cool that they don't have to advertise? Do they think everyone saw and cared about their superbowl commercial? Put your name out there, you have hundreds of PC related companies that are your competitors advertising on a daily basis and hardly any Apple related commercials. Thats a shame.
 
Originally posted by Rex44
Say, an arrangement with the the citrus grower associations that would see grocery store cashiers give out iTunes contest tokens to people for every four grapefruits bought. Or a similar thing with whole grain loaves of bread. And so on and so forth
How many teens buy grapfruits and ganola breads on a daily basis? I think you can blame the school system in america for making children obese (coke, pepsi, pizza hut etc in chool cafeterias), I'm sure that if odwalla juice was as popular with younger generation, they would partner, but are they as "cool?" No.
 
Originally posted by Hector
mc donalds sickens me my opinion of apple will plumit if this is true

That's... uh... great, or too bad, or something.

I forget if you have the burger chain Wendy's in the UK, but that's a place I'd love to see an iTMS promo. Wait, maybe not, as it could far too easily influence my eating decisions.

Originally posted by Hector
the day apple holds a majority share is the day i buy pc

That's just downright nutty. Apple is a business, not a holy institution, moral compass, etc. Businesses, funny enough, try to generate business. 🙄
 
Bait and switch?

I stopped at 2 different 7-Elevens this morning looking for iTunes bottles or cups. Both stores had several prominent posters advertising the promotion, outside and inside. The soda machine had a big display about the iTunes cups. But not a single promotional bottle or cup in either store.

Is it just me, or is this bait and switch? I don't care if it takes them a week or two to get rid of current inventory and get the promotional items in the store. But don't put up the posters until you have the goods! As it is now, people could see the sign, go in looking for possible free tunes, not find any, and just buy something else instead. Classic bait and switch.

I'm not one to get all upset about these things normally but this one pissed me off. Sending nasty letters to 7-Eleven and Pepsi. Hoping to get free stuff out of it. 😀
 
Originally posted by stoid
For those who are adamantly objecting to Apple hitching up with companies that sell 'unhealthy' products:

Who would you suggest that Apple shacks up with to give away music? I'll probably be eating these words later, but I can't think of a single company that could give out a massive number of songs with the hip appeal and therefore success of Pepsi or McDonald's. I don't see a Bally's Total Fitness, Granola Bar, or HealthyChoice iTunes song giveaway been anything but a ridiculous and utter failure as a business partnership.

Apple isn't necessarily partnering with Pepsi and McDonald's because it supports their products, but rather because that just makes business sense.

How about VISA and MasterCard?

Or a tie in with your mega grocery store? For every $20 you get one free song?

Or gas stations. With every fill-up you get one free song (8 gallons or more of course).

High-speed net access. Get two free songs with each bill.

The possibilities are endless....
 
music, music, nowhere to be found

Searching hi and low for Pepsi Bottles here in Music City USA (Nashville, TN) and coming up with squat.

I've looked for the iTunes Pepsi bottles and nothing here in Minneapolis either. I've looked for them in Target, Super America, Holiday, Cub Foods and Rainbow Foods and nada. I need instant gratification and I don't want to have to wait any longer.
 
No Purchase Necessary

From the Official iTunes Giveaway rules:

"No Purchase Necessary. To receive one free game piece and a copy of Official Rules, while supplies last, send a self-addressed, stamped envelope postmarked on or before 3/31/04 to: Pepsi iTunes Game Piece, P.O. Box 9205, Young America, MN 55558-9205. Residents of the state of VT may omit return postage. Limit one free game piece per request per stamped outer envelope. Pepsi-Cola Company (“Sponsor”) assumes no liability for lost, late, stolen, illegible, misdirected, mutilated, incomplete or postage-due mail or requests."

The price of 2 stamps for the chance to win!
 
I completely understand those worried about the ethics of Apple cross-promoting with the likes of Pepsi and McDonalds -- not only is Apple cool, but they are generally good corporate citizens. That said, folks who are high and mighty about this issue might want to look into how polluting the semiconductor industry is, or how environmentally damaging landfilled computers are. (You might also note that, although Apple used to put its products in plain brown boxes, it has gone back to full-colour packaging.)

People shouldn't let the size of corporations discourage action against behaviour they oppose, but at the same time, folks should be fully informed, and pick your battles appropriately. In my view, McDs has (under public pressure) begun to open its menu to healthier choices, and that's a good thing.
 
Re: Dear, oh dear...

Originally posted by Hoky
OT (couldn't resist):



You actually drink Budweiser? Now that is piss, to be sure. In fact, all the beer made in America is piss, if you ask me. Canadians start drinking beer that would curl your socks when we turn 10 years old. In fact it's mandatory. I love living in a country that offers tax breaks for alcohol expenses.

Now excuse me while I enjoy my micro-brewed India Pale Ale from the nationally-reknowned brew pub down the street. Comes in a 650ml bottle. 8%, I think...

Is it bad that it is only 8:12am?

[/taunt]

;-)

Right there with you on that one. I think any Micro brewed beer would have it over Bud. And dont for get the European beers plus a few Aussie and NZ beers as well! ( But preferably Euro such as German, Belgian, Austrian)
 
300 million 20oz bottles is not that many

there are between 80 million and 100 million households in America. If just 40 % of those households bought some of the bottles , they would only need to buy an average number of 10 bottles . Actually that 40% is probably the same number for high school teenagers in America .

What makes some people think Granola bars are that much better . They may offer a couple grams of fiber but check out the fat grams. Also there is a product called DIET PEPSI .

The Pepsi / Itunes is a con anyway. I can buy 12oz cans for 18 cents each . 18 cents plus 18 cents plus 99 cents = $1 .35 .

If the McDonalds rumor is true , the summertime would be the perfect time to have it. McDonalds could always offer ITUNES giveaway prizes with their salads as well.
 
I think if someone on the west coast was to write, turn this in for 1 Free song - good at any iTunes Music Store , on the back of a US dollar, and put it into circulation, that I would see that dollar befor I see a Pepsi bottle with the iTunes promo on it.

Maybe someone should do this. Maybe I'll do it. And then maybe I'll redeem my dollar for a free song.
 
Originally posted by Chip NoVaMac
How about VISA and MasterCard?

Or a tie in with your mega grocery store? For every $20 you get one free song?

Or gas stations. With every fill-up you get one free song (8 gallons or more of course).

High-speed net access. Get two free songs with each bill.

The possibilities are endless....

What?! gasoline?? you mean you don't want all Apple customers to do the responsible thing and trade in their cars for bicycles? Are you trying to destroy the whole planet?
 
Re: Guns don't kill people ...

Originally posted by adzoox
Food doesn't make people fat - people make THEMSELVES fat just as ... guns don't kill people ... people kill people. I hate when people give inanimate objects powers of persuasion and abilities to destroy lives. They are inanimate. Period.

As for food, I think you're just dead wrong. Poor people in this country have an extremely tough time eating healthy. Food stamps aren't offered for healthy food, only dense fatty food. In addition, when you're working multiple jobs, it becomes increasingly difficult to take the time to prepare a meal (the healthy alternative), and people turn to quick and easy fast food.

Take a moment to look down from atop your perch to understand that individuals are part of larger institutions, which bear a great influence on their decisions. We live in a society, like it or not, and the poor have fewer food choices in that society.

Sorry for the rant, but that needed to be said.
 
Re: Re: Guns don't kill people ...

Originally posted by uv23
I agree to an extent - anyone who sues McDonalds for "making them fat" is an idiot. However, you underestimate the power of advertising, especially with today's youth.

Dont forget that just about every 2-3 year old kid in the developed world can say "McDonalds" and "Big Mac" as well as "I Want" so for Apple to be doing an iTunes promotion for a Billion songs with MDs is a pretty huge deal to get mum, dad, big brother/s, big sister/s into MDs and aware of the iTunes giveaway.
 
Originally posted by gemio17
People who have iPods or that use iTMS don't drink piss-water Heineken, makes me gag just thinking about it. Give me a Bud bottle anyday of the week and twice on sunday over that crap

Both Heineken and Bud are cr*p azz beers. Try anything from New Belgium or Odells, and you'll see what I mean. Anyone here heard of fat tire?

Also the promotion ideas sound really great, can't wait till I run into a bottle or 2 of free caps. And if they do McDonald's too...
 
Originally posted by Tulse
You might also note that, although Apple used to put its products in plain brown boxes, it has gone back to full-colour packaging.

But that is even more environment-friendly – the boxes are so beautiful now that no-one will throw them away...
 
Re: Bait and switch?

Originally posted by bankshot
I stopped at 2 different 7-Elevens this morning looking for iTunes bottles or cups. Both stores had several prominent posters advertising the promotion, outside and inside. The soda machine had a big display about the iTunes cups. But not a single promotional bottle or cup in either store.

Is it just me, or is this bait and switch? I don't care if it takes them a week or two to get rid of current inventory and get the promotional items in the store. But don't put up the posters until you have the goods! As it is now, people could see the sign, go in looking for possible free tunes, not find any, and just buy something else instead. Classic bait and switch.

I'm not one to get all upset about these things normally but this one pissed me off. Sending nasty letters to 7-Eleven and Pepsi. Hoping to get free stuff out of it. 😀

Its only been 2 days since the promo started. Be patient! We'll be drowning in itunes caps and cups in a very short period. I found a 7-Eleven today with the cups here on the North Shore of Long Island. I lost 😡
 
Originally posted by FlamDrag
This is going to sound more "soapboxy" than I really want, but all the same...

I am a consumer and that gives me every right - hell an obligation if you ask me - to object when companies behave in a manner with which I do not agree. Stockholders have even MORE right.

Granted, we're not talking about corporate corruption or accounting fraud etc. I furthermore agree with your statement about Granola Bar promotions probably being FAR less successful than a Pepsi or McDonalds promotion; And I'm not in denial; I realize it's all about money and profit.

At the same time, I'd like to see companies take a stand for the greater good and overall health of a nation - hell, even just the youth.

Finally, of course one can eat fast food and soda as part of a balanced diet - but the problem is that so few people, especially youth, do this. So many go to fast food joints and "supersize" an already calorie-laden meal into a range enough to last several days. On top of that, many eat these meals nearly every day - if not multiple times a day. It's a major problem in America; I doubt that you can find evidence to contradict that. In effect, Apple is endorsing these unhealthy habits, and I don't like it.

The eating habits of America need a change at the cultural level and this is simply a step in the wrong direction.

Actions speak louder than words, and nobody likes a whiner. If you're unhappy with Apple, stop buying Macs, it's that simple. But judging from the fact that you're on a MacRumors message board, I bet that you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is.

As Hoky pointed out, there are two businesses at work here. The music business, iPod/iTMS/iTunes and the computer business. Not to worry though, as your computer business will still be elitist, snobby, and always extremely innovative.
 
Originally posted by impierced
I believe he was just expressing his frustration with the fact that the rumor mill has somewhat dried up for Mac news.

I have cash in hand for new hardware and have been disappointed as of late and look to Mac Rumors to keep me going with the real soon now...


New PowerMac G5s may shortly follow the 10.3.3 release. Several developers have reported to Rumors that their discussions with Apple about 10.3.3 build 7F24 turned up hints that 10.3.3 may include a considerable chunk of code specifically intended to add support for the forthcoming PMG5s. Apparently, once the update ships, new PowerMacs at up to Dual 2.6GHz may not be far behind.
 
This isn't about being high-and-mighty - if some of you can't understand that, there's little I can say to help you. Just know that you are completely missing the point.

For the record, I occasionally enjoy the sugary, empty calories of soda or even a value meal. It's not that I think that these products have no right to exist, it's that I wish as a culture, Americans would choose to eat healthier.

*sigh*

There's nothing wrong with taking a different standpoint on the issue, or any issue, but the folks who seem to not understand why others are even remotely socially-conscious boggle my mind. Perish the thought that someone care about society.

WHY DISCUSS THIS AT ALL? Well, I don't see much more interesting to talk about these days. Rather we complain about the fact that Apple has yet to do anything special for their anniversary? How about if Apple doesn't release a 20Ghz G9 Powerbook TODAY they're dead?

**EDIT: GreenStork, you've got me all figured out. **
 
Originally posted by uv23
Apple is centering themselves directly in the heart of fat America. Very sad to see.

The only thing sadder would be to see them center themselves directly in the heart of arrogant Canada. Land of...well...Beaver hunters, I guess. And backbacon. Yeah, they have great backbacon. Oh, and whiners. There's no shortage of whiners in Canada.

That's about it.
 
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