Ahh, but what about Gatorade or other juices that aren't carbonated, sugar-filled, and otherwise bad for you.
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Ahh, but what about Gatorade or other juices that aren't carbonated, sugar-filled, and otherwise bad for you.
Too bad Coke jumped the gun and went with MusicMatch instead of waiting to do their own promo with iTunes during the summer. A promo like this would certainly do better during the warmer months. During this time of year, perhaps a promo with Starbucks (or Coffee Bean 
) would be more appropriate, given the cold weather. If that's when the McDonald's promo is going to happen, they'll make a killing. Gonna swing by 7-11 later today to see what's there.
) would be more appropriate, given the cold weather. If that's when the McDonald's promo is going to happen, they'll make a killing. Gonna swing by 7-11 later today to see what's there. 
a deal with pepsi and another with McD's still sounds unlikely to me. Coca~Cola does a lot of work with McD's and i am sure they would be a bit mad if a deal does appear between McD's and Apple.
Originally posted by Earendil
The only people that (at this stage) that are being "enticed" to buy food and drink that they don't normally buy, is US. That's right, for the 98% of the world (50% of which have prob never heard of Apple or iTMS) ...
The only people that (at this stage) that are being "enticed" to buy food and drink that they don't normally buy, is US. That's right, for the 98% of the world (50% of which have prob never heard of Apple or iTMS) ...
Originally posted by TEG
DUDE!!
The US is roughly 20% of the world's population, and has both the 3rd largest world population, and the 3rd largest land area.
My bad, I didn't mean U.S. as in United States, I meant "US" as in "we the Macintosh community"
Also, My use of the term "world" is probably incorret because 2% market share only applies to the US market?
And about the obese issue, there are several factors, many of which are the same reasons that the childern in this country are violent, and hyper... The don't get to be themselves. If children were allowed, or able, to go outside and play, there would be less obesity. It children were allowed to play "pretend" games like cops and robbers, they wouldn't go shoot some one when they grow up. It people recognized that little boys and girls require free time, outdoor activity, and are hyper because of institutional food, there would be no ADD/ADHD and no ritilin.
Sorry if I'm missing possible sarcsm in your post. But I hope you aren't implying that ADD/ADHD is a mis-diagnoses for kids that don't get outside and run, and that there isn't such a thing as ADD/ADHD...
(Though I can take this up with you in private if you'd like to email me, and not in the forum as it's a bit off topic
Tyler
Earendil
Originally posted by ebow
That's... uh... great, or too bad, or something.
I forget if you have the burger chain Wendy's in the UK, but that's a place I'd love to see an iTMS promo. Wait, maybe not, as it could far too easily influence my eating decisions.
That's just downright nutty. Apple is a business, not a holy institution, moral compass, etc. Businesses, funny enough, try to generate business.
my sig. is to imply that I always support the underdog i'd love to see apple sucsessfull but I would hate to see it as a bloated monopoly.
the underdog always needs supporting and i'll always suppoort it
(pround owner of a betamax recorder, dreamcast and mac
i'd rather eat my right hand than go to a fastfood outlet
You do understand that this makes you sound so mentally unstable that nothing you say, ever, will again be taken seriously... right?
i'm a vegerterian that is milk protine intollorent even if i wasent i still wouldent go those places make me feel sick
right so in you book being healthy makes youy mentally unstable, right
the eating of my right hand is a figure of speach if you hadent noticed by now many posters use it such as neatgeko
Beginning to get a headache!
I'm sure someone must have mentioned this by now, but all this hand-wringing over the 'health' implications of the Pepsi promotion ignores one simple fact: the promotion also applies to Diet Pepsi which is - to all intents and purposes - calorie-free.
So - even if you argued that the cap split as even (100m Pepsi, 100m Diet, 100m Sierra Mist) - there's a slim chance that once the 200m 'full-fat' bottles were used maybe customers will resort to Diet, and make a discovery that it's not so bad and stick to it.
Presumably, if Pepsi had teamed up with Musicmatch, we'd all be sitting here complaining about how Apple's marketing isn't up to snuff.
Apple, iTunes, iPod, et al exist to make money and keep people in jobs - not to act as an arbiter of moral and dietary wisdom - if you're really that wound up about the health of children, vote for school board officials who'll go on the record that they'd resign rather than accept soft-drink/fast-food sponsorship i exchange for catering concessions. And maybe another issue you should consider is lobbying Congress for a ban on tobacco advertising/sponsorship.
I'm sure someone must have mentioned this by now, but all this hand-wringing over the 'health' implications of the Pepsi promotion ignores one simple fact: the promotion also applies to Diet Pepsi which is - to all intents and purposes - calorie-free.
So - even if you argued that the cap split as even (100m Pepsi, 100m Diet, 100m Sierra Mist) - there's a slim chance that once the 200m 'full-fat' bottles were used maybe customers will resort to Diet, and make a discovery that it's not so bad and stick to it.
Presumably, if Pepsi had teamed up with Musicmatch, we'd all be sitting here complaining about how Apple's marketing isn't up to snuff.
Apple, iTunes, iPod, et al exist to make money and keep people in jobs - not to act as an arbiter of moral and dietary wisdom - if you're really that wound up about the health of children, vote for school board officials who'll go on the record that they'd resign rather than accept soft-drink/fast-food sponsorship i exchange for catering concessions. And maybe another issue you should consider is lobbying Congress for a ban on tobacco advertising/sponsorship.
any chance Apple and Pepsi next could
do this kind of giveaway for ipods or eMacs (G5 Powermacs would be nice but it would be better if there were more prize winners ) ? Send out 900 million 2 liter Pepsi bottles with 10,000 ipods prizes and 500 eMac prizes. that would be cool.
do this kind of giveaway for ipods or eMacs (G5 Powermacs would be nice but it would be better if there were more prize winners ) ? Send out 900 million 2 liter Pepsi bottles with 10,000 ipods prizes and 500 eMac prizes. that would be cool.
Just returned from local 7-11...
Both the soda machines AND the slurpee machines had big signs on them for the Pepsi/iTunes ad... A BIG Apple logo (blue) was both on the display (in three different places on each pane) and on the cup; the Apple logo was the same size as the Pepsi Music logo.
btw: I didn't win (but there's always tomorrow ).
Both the soda machines AND the slurpee machines had big signs on them for the Pepsi/iTunes ad... A BIG Apple logo (blue) was both on the display (in three different places on each pane) and on the cup; the Apple logo was the same size as the Pepsi Music logo.
btw: I didn't win (but there's always tomorrow
).Not to get into a nutrition debate on a Mac forum, but you have three issues here:
1) Calories. A 12-oz can of soda averages somewhere around 180 Calories, more or less (note for the pedantic: "Calories" is equivalent to 1000 "calories" ... the capital "C" changes you to the more familiar kilo-calories units instead of the strictly accurate "calories" units). One soda can per day will add 7% to a 2500-Calorie diet. One "44 Oz Big Gulp" (assuming 10% ice) will inflate your caloric intake by more like 24%. Calories In == Calories Out to maintain a specific level of health, more or less (there are variations which will allow short-term imbalances there, but not in the long term). Thus, if you are bringing in more calories, you have to exercise more to use up those calories, or build your muscle mass so that less physical movement requires more calories to accomplish. This is the place where "if you want to drink sodas day in and day out, just exercise more!" works.
2) General nutritional input. Maintaining a level of activity requires more than just pure energy (calories); your body needs nutrients to maintain a higher level of activity. You're not going to be getting these nutrients from sodas. So, if you are going to consume zero-nutrient sodas, you also need to pull in extra nutrients from other foods. This doesn't mean it's impossible to eat healthily while drinking sodas, as not EVERY food/beverage we consume needs to be a perfect nutritional balance (which goes right along with "You don't need to consume 100% of your daily vitamins and minerals in your breakfast cereal", but I digress); it does make it harder, though. The soda-drinker needs to eat more healthily than the water drinker to maintain the same level of physical fitness. The reverse is usually true.
3) There's a bunch of "bad for you" or "we really don't know if it's bad for you" crap in sodas. The sugars, of course, but also the acids and nutra-sweet (in diet sodas) and caffiene, etc. You're certainly not doing anything positive for your body by drinking sodas, and in many cases it's unknown if you are doing harm.
Now, that having been said, it is certainly possible to drink sodas "in moderation" and be very healthy. If you get enjoyment from sugar water, and can put forward the extra effort to counter it, there's really not a convincing argument against it.
Really, the only "perfect" diet would be a nutritionally balanced, homogenous slurry of nutrients and calories digested in regular intervals throughout the day. Anything that a real person might be able to stomache will of necessity be "less than ideal" and require some effort to maintain health.
And, to be honest, there's a heck of a lot more things that fall in the same category: alcoholic drinks, desserts, teas and coffees, etc. If you are pedantic and obsessive about how other people are drinking sodas, I should expect you to not indulge in any of the other "emtpy" or "near-empty" calorie delights of the world.
The trick is: if you want to be more healthy, which of the various "vices" you consume can you cut out? For many, cutting out or drastically cutting down on sodas is a quick and easy 15% Calorie reduction with little problem; for others, they'd rather slit their wrists than not have that Dr Pepper waiting for them.
More encouragement to make U.S youth obese
I'm sorry America, but we in Australia are getting fat like you Americans. Fast food and soda are replacing healthy alternatives as the main source of our kids diets. I love the system of how iTunes works, and will purchase songs of iTMS when it "finally" arrives in Australia, but 100,000,000 bottles of soda is not going to help with your youth obesity problem. Hopefully the fat ones will get their iPods on and carry-on like the dancers in the iPod ads after downloading their free song to burn off the 2.5 cups of sugar used to make the bottle of soda.
I'm sorry America, but we in Australia are getting fat like you Americans. Fast food and soda are replacing healthy alternatives as the main source of our kids diets. I love the system of how iTunes works, and will purchase songs of iTMS when it "finally" arrives in Australia, but 100,000,000 bottles of soda is not going to help with your youth obesity problem. Hopefully the fat ones will get their iPods on and carry-on like the dancers in the iPod ads after downloading their free song to burn off the 2.5 cups of sugar used to make the bottle of soda.
Enough with the nutrition factor crap...
Lets be honest about this. It's a promo for Pepsi and itunes, Not Wheat Germ and itunes. Haven't we gotten way off topic here? I mean please. How boring...
Lets be honest about this. It's a promo for Pepsi and itunes, Not Wheat Germ and itunes. Haven't we gotten way off topic here? I mean please. How boring...
Oddly enough, in the world I inhabit, the US is 250M out of >6B people (have we passed the 7B mark yet?), decidedly less than 20% of the population. That would be more like 4% or so.
Of course, you could be talking about "of the world's population of important people", in which case, of course you're right, 'cause those billions of people in China and Africa just can't count the same as us Americans, right?
Boring
Yes, I agree mate, Americas obesity bores me silly. All of those unhealthy little children suckin' back soda & fried food. BORING.
If you dont want to read peoples opinions about issues, then I suggest you ***********
Yes, I agree mate, Americas obesity bores me silly. All of those unhealthy little children suckin' back soda & fried food. BORING.
If you dont want to read peoples opinions about issues, then I suggest you ***********
Isn't Feb the shortest month of all to have a contest?
Well you do get an extra day since it is leap year.
Dear God enough about the stupid Atkins diet - if you're dumb enough to believe this (enough said - if you are offended, go to the atkins site and search for the maintenance section - hmm, you get to eat cake, breads, pasta, etc. -KEY WORDS: IN MODERATION - as in all things in life)
Apple and Coke/McDonalds - I love it. If people have a problem with obesity, get over it. Again, the market is there and so are the users and potential new users. If you do get fat from eating fast food, it isn't because you are brainwashed or there is a conspiracy. When one eats more calories than they burn off - they gain weight. I could eat 10 granola bars and still gain weight. Get a clue!
My beers of choice - I'd say Bass Ale, Guinness stout, New Castle Nut Brown Ale or a Summit India Pale Ale.
Have a nice day.
Well you do get an extra day since it is leap year.
Dear God enough about the stupid Atkins diet - if you're dumb enough to believe this (enough said - if you are offended, go to the atkins site and search for the maintenance section - hmm, you get to eat cake, breads, pasta, etc. -KEY WORDS: IN MODERATION - as in all things in life)
Apple and Coke/McDonalds - I love it. If people have a problem with obesity, get over it. Again, the market is there and so are the users and potential new users. If you do get fat from eating fast food, it isn't because you are brainwashed or there is a conspiracy. When one eats more calories than they burn off - they gain weight. I could eat 10 granola bars and still gain weight. Get a clue!
My beers of choice - I'd say Bass Ale, Guinness stout, New Castle Nut Brown Ale or a Summit India Pale Ale.
Have a nice day.
What a grovelling state we have been reduced to, sifting through rumors of "Big Gulps" and debating the "homogenous slurry of nutrients", all while searching for any sign of a power mac/book update.
A hopeless state indeed.
A hopeless state indeed.
agreed, but
I agree with your position, as well. However, I've recently began changing my own personal lifestyle habits, and I can enjoy pop and fatty foods as long as I balance it out with exercise and proper hygiene.
After realizing this, I can see it's not Apple's responsibility to make sure people don't get fat or lose their teeth. That's up to the individual, and more of us should be doing it. It's not hard, really.
And Apple is also helping people enjoy music *away* from the computer... they encourage people to get out and do something... go for a run, work out, but take along the iPod.
I agree with your position, as well. However, I've recently began changing my own personal lifestyle habits, and I can enjoy pop and fatty foods as long as I balance it out with exercise and proper hygiene.
After realizing this, I can see it's not Apple's responsibility to make sure people don't get fat or lose their teeth. That's up to the individual, and more of us should be doing it. It's not hard, really.
And Apple is also helping people enjoy music *away* from the computer... they encourage people to get out and do something... go for a run, work out, but take along the iPod.