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1. The solution Apple will give to the loss of the headphone socket is wireless headphones.. NOT lightning headphones.

2. There will be no earphones in the box with all future iPhones.

3. There will however be a variety of wireless ear/headphones for purchase on Apple's websites.

These are my predictions.
I hope you are not right but you probably are. Wireless headphones are an abomination when it comes to actual high end sonic quality.
 
Convenient how the looping of the wires disappears out of the frame picture. That's literally a pair of regular earbuds and a lighting wire, with the headphone jack and USB portions outside of the image.

Indeed. Wire for the Lightning end is thicker than the end going into the volume controller, not to mention a slightly different shade of color. Didn't need an article "update" to figure out that these were not official earbuds. Definitely two different products slapped together and presented in a photo in such a way to make it seem like a single product. It's pretty obvious.
 
the question is how i can use this earpod when i need to charge?
and the other question is, if somebody suggest me to get bt headphone, how can i use bt headphone in airplane.
 
Much more disappointment.. instead of redesigning it with a cool wider coloured wire, they just put a HORRIBLE adaptor to lightning.. I don´t think it´s fake.. I think this is coherent with the NEW APPLE.. which doesn't surprise us anymore with awesome hardware design but they re-use shyly the older designs (such as iPhone SE or the iPhone 7) so DISAPPOINTING!
I'm sorry I couldn't help myself from laughing hysterically at you. This article has been updated, because as usual, people like you are beyond gullible. Haha it's fake! Lmao thanks for the laughs. Seriously!
 
Just posted this to the iphone forum, but I thought it would be relevant here.

Apple will remove the 3.5 mm audio port, but will not remove the DAC for headphones. Instead, Apple will pass the analog audio output to the lightning port, using four contacts on sides of the port. Two will be on the sides (let's say for the right and left channels), and will double as the contacts that hold the lightning connector in place. A headphone adapter would have two corresponding contacts on the side of the connector. Two more connectors will be at the rear of the port. These would function as the microphone channel, and a single corresponding contact would be on the connector. The phone would recognize the orientation of the adapter based on which of the two contacts on the port makes contact.

Port
__0____0__
|..............|
0.............0
|..............|

Connector/Adapter
_____0__
|...........|
0..........0
|...........|


Adapters for old headphones would be trivial to make, as they would simply pass each contact to the corresponding channels on the 3.5mm port through a basic connection. I would imagine that third party accessory makers could make these available for a couple bucks.
If the DAC is in the phone and everything is going to be analogue, then why the hell to drop the headphone jack?
 
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If the DAC is in the phone and everything is going to be analogue, then why the hell to drop the headphone jack?
Great question. As you probably already know, the signal HAS to be converted to analog before the driver (speaker). Makes sense for those whose use cases support the use of wireless though.

Hopefully this rumor is just that. A rumor. I am due for a new high end computer and phone this year. I would rather just buy Apple and not delve into breaking the eco system.
 
If true, more painful earbuds from Apple. A little silicone or foam on the tip of each would go a long way! Surely that cost can be absorbed due to the ridiculous profit margins these phones carry.
I don't think it's a matter of cost, but design.
 
Convenient how the looping of the wires disappears out of the frame picture. That's literally a pair of regular earbuds and a lighting wire, with the headphone jack and USB portions outside of the image.

I was wondering a similar thing. Why in the world is it impossible to create a loop w/ the whole earbud and capture the entire thing in one frame? Oh, because it is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
 
I was wondering a similar thing. Why in the world is it impossible to create a loop w/ the whole earbud and capture the entire thing in one frame? Oh, because it is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.

As a collector I resemble that remark:

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The lightning 30-pin adapter supports analog out, so no doubt Apple can build a lightning earbud without a DAC. And still prevent recording by verifying the device is part of the Made for iPhone program.
 
If the DAC is in the phone and everything is going to be analogue, then why the hell to drop the headphone jack?

Think about proprietary and profitability vs. non-proprietary.

Because the jack itself takes up a lot of space.

And there are so many complaining about iDevices being too thick, right? Hopefully this will allow them to get "thinner" and meet one of the biggest demands of the masses. Maybe even 2 birds with one stone as I can't tell you how often I've heard my iPhone-owning friends whine about not having a tail hanging out of their Lightning ports when listening to music?.. clearly a huge problem that needed to be "solved."

The camera, microphone, and display take up a lot of space too.

Once we show we'll swallow this pill and still pay up, what do you think gets ejected next? Since camera modules need some physical space to work as camera, the "wart" is here to stay if it has to stay inside the ever-thinning phone. So guess what probably gets ejected next?

And nothing takes up more space than battery, so certainly it will go too.

After all, if we can still be sold a phone sans 3.5mm jack at full price by arguing that a simple adapter solves our problems, certainly simple camera add-ons and battery packs can't be too far behind. When anyone whines about the camera wart, one of the most popular comebacks is that we all put our phones in a case anyway. Why not eject the camera to those cases? Why not build various battery capacities into those cases too?

Both are more "antiquated" than 3.5mm. Both can have every bit of the same arguments about quality improvements if they are externalized. If both can connect via a proprietary port, accessory sales and licensing can be just as lucrative.

Eventually, we pay the current price for an empty box... and apparently we will like it, even rip into each other for not seeing the genius in assembling what used to come inside an iPhone from accessories sold separately.
 
Look at the low quality of the manufacturing and the design. These are an obvious knock-off. Not an original Apple product.
 
The camera, microphone, and display take up a lot of space too.
But if the functionality of the headphone jack can be doubled up on another port, that's space that can be used for something else without sacrificing too much functionality.
 
Seems like some Apple earbuds that had a lightning connecter "attached" to the end of the cable.
 
Recently bought cheap (<$40) bluetooth 4.0 Earphones. Clearly not HIFI quality but was surprised how well this worked with both the iPhone and the Watch. If Apple can make one of these with a lightning port, more compact design and equal or better battery live (>4h), think there is zero reason to ever again plug in a headset.

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But if the functionality of the headphone jack can be doubled up on another port, that's space that can be used for something else without sacrificing too much functionality.
The functionality of the headphone jack is to allow someone with a universally accepted 3.5mm audio plug to connect to the phone. Where are you gonna double that up without some clunky adaptor that is super easy to lose and will probably cost 19.99?
 
Just posted this to the iphone forum, but I thought it would be relevant here.

Apple will remove the 3.5 mm audio port, but will not remove the DAC for headphones. Instead, Apple will pass the analog audio output to the lightning port, using four contacts on sides of the port. Two will be on the sides (let's say for the right and left channels), and will double as the contacts that hold the lightning connector in place. A headphone adapter would have two corresponding contacts on the side of the connector. Two more connectors will be at the rear of the port. These would function as the microphone channel, and a single corresponding contact would be on the connector. The phone would recognize the orientation of the adapter based on which of the two contacts on the port makes contact.

Port
__0____0__
|..............|
0.............0
|..............|

Connector/Adapter
_____0__
|...........|
0..........0
|...........|


Adapters for old headphones would be trivial to make, as they would simply pass each contact to the corresponding channels on the 3.5mm port through a basic connection. I would imagine that third party accessory makers could make these available for a couple bucks.

Wild speculation.

Chances of this are almost zero.

If Apple had any plans to pass through analogue audio through the Lightning connector, they would have done it already on the 30-pin to Lightning adapter. They would have done it on the Lightning Docks.

Doing this would only fan the flames of unrest amongst those that are most opposed to the removal of the headphone jack -- a proprietary dongle that merely changes the shape of the connecter and nothing else. Apple tried that with the original iPhone and there was mass outrage.

The only way to make this work is for the move to Lightning to offer something in the way of improvement. Moreover, giving people a cheap adapter option like this only encourages them to stay with their existing 3.5mm tech, and continue to adopt more, while simultaneously upsetting and inconveniencing them. And that means less demand, competition, innovation, improvement and higher prices for new technology, which ultimately slows the adoption of new technology.
 
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