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ps guys Apple changed the front page... the now have two screens both about Tiger but 1 with 6 new features and one with the two new featers.
 
something tells me WWDC is the place to be in June.

I have hopes that Apple is waiting to post any large changes until June. The Leak of information on the dual core 970 chip looked to have been hinting that production has started, and they are starting to let developers know how to work with internal features.

I also agree with a previous post and wouldn't be completely surprised if the Dual core processors only go in the Xserve line at first, and slowly end up in the Powermac lineup.

840
just speculating
 
Rod Rod said:
If "freedom" means having to keep track of millions of combinations of hardware and software, well you can have your freedom, while the rest of us "accede" to our OS X and Mac shackles. Your attempt at personalizing the issue is weak.

Millions? You're exaggerating way too much. I think this is a weak argument from you Mac people but that's all you have to cling to; all you do is denigrate the ability to for consumers to customize their own machines to their liking--and not everybody does it, just the hobbyists and techno geeks. It's as if all your powermacs and iMacs were baptized in a holy pond behind Steve's house.

Yes, you have to take the hardware as integral to the OS X experience.

Anyway it's great comedy how you confuse DVD and CD burners with hardware integral to the OS. OS X is designed to run on certain processors, and it leverages the advantages of the processors. You might have heard of CherryOS or PearPC and how horribly slow OS X runs with those on x86 hardware. The reason is the second sentence of this paragraph.

Alright so let's once again take a look at what you and the poster are saying: that OS X is great because it works intimately with its processor. Fair enough, then by that definition I guess Windows is great because it works best on the x86 platform.

I mean you just prove why OS X is not a mainstream OS, why Apple has 3% market share, and why Apple will always be a minority niche player. But that's ok, it makes you feel better and every other tom and joe who uses a Windows machine is just a dolt who is too cheap to buy a glorified cheese grader called a PowerMac. In fact stop telling people to switch, you might turn your Mac OS into another "Windoze."
 
madoka said:
Brillant! Update the line now, then update again a month later! Make all the losers who buy now cry in their beer. Everyone will love Apple for releasing machines so fast! :rolleyes:

I agree with you. I don't think Apple will do that. Now that Intel and AMD both had introduced dual core processor machines, Apple shouldn't be too far away. Let's hope that the coming update is better than what TS predicted.
 
illustratorDavi said:
Hi

I've just noticed that the applestore UK shipping times for the powermac have changed from 24hour to 7 days. But strangely not the single processor 1.8ghz

Applestore PowerMac

I'm thinking -- Tuesday release but a disappointing one (just in case steve is reading!!!)

David

More than likely the single is going to be dropped in the next revision, hence no shipping delay on current ones.
 
Special NAB event NEWS???

Wake up america...
All this talk about the special NAB event and then nothing?
... Oh, I get it, you're under NDA. Ok, I'll just guess and you don't have to say anything, just nod your head ok?... you ready? New hardware upgrades?
.......
Was that a nod?
 
unknownfairy said:
Wake up america...
All this talk about the special NAB event and then nothing?
... Oh, I get it, you're under NDA. Ok, I'll just guess and you don't have to say anything, just nod your head ok?... you ready? New hardware upgrades?
.......
Was that a nod?

I thought that NDA's meant nothing here anyway.. ?
But we won't tell anyone who you are honest...
 
Rod Rod said:
Anyway it's great comedy how you confuse DVD and CD burners with hardware integral to the OS. OS X is designed to run on certain processors, and it leverages the advantages of the processors. You might have heard of CherryOS or PearPC and how horribly slow OS X runs with those on x86 hardware. The reason is the second sentence of this paragraph.

The reason why it runs so slow on x86 is because it's designed to leverage certain features on PPC? Uh, sorry. The reason why it runs so slow is because PearPC and the like EMULATE PPC on x86-hardware. And such emulation is always slow. Even if OS X was DOS-like OS, it would still run it relatively slow. And the reason is not that x86 is crappy whereas PPC is good, it's because emulating hardware on software is slow.
 
My $.02:

I've only been looking into this rumor stuff for the last two months, waiting for the new PMs to be updated. From what I understand, ThinkSecret is not on par with their rumors. Dates, specs, etc, have all been a little off lately. So I venture to say that Apple WILL NOT be updating the PM according to the latest rumored specs by ThinkSecret.

In any case, I have work to do, and I'm not above going out to get a Winblows machine. I just cannot justify buying a current PM, knowing that new ones will come out the tomorrow, or the next day, week, month, whatever. But, I can't afford to stop working, either.

APPLE: If you can't get me an updated PM by the 29th, I will be making my order to HP.
 
"a little off" is not that bad - would you rather trust MOSR ???

SweetFeet said:
From what I understand, ThinkSecret is not on par with their rumors. Dates, specs, etc, have all been a little off lately. So I venture to say that Apple WILL NOT be updating the PM according to the latest rumored specs by ThinkSecret.

I think that "a little off" is a pretty good record.

TS has come pretty close on specs most of the time, and close on the dates.

If the TS updates come as described, but in mid-May - is that a hit or a miss? I'd call it a "hit"....
 
madoka said:
Think harder and you might come up with option #3:

The 9800XT is an outdated card that gets spanked by newer, cheaper cards like the 800XL. Nobody is buying them and ATI may not even be producing them any more.

Wait, that sounds like just the kind of card Apple would put in their high end machines! :(
I think the mid-range PowerMac or even the low-end will be getting the 9800XT standard. nVidia's GeForce 6800 DDL, ATI's X800XT, and ATI's X850XT will be upgrade options.

This makes room for the iMac to finally leave the nVidia GeForce 5200FX behind and get something better, and therefore the eMac and Mac mini can get the GeForce 5200FX.
 
madoka said:
The 9800XT is an outdated card that gets spanked by newer, cheaper cards like the 800XL. Nobody is buying them and ATI may not even be producing them any more
Not according to This ATI press release.

P.S. If even the Russians manage to put a 9800 SE in their computers standard, then its really about time apple starts to ship its high-end desktops with at least the same. :rolleyes:
 
AidenShaw said:
I think that "a little off" is a pretty good record.

TS has come pretty close on specs most of the time, and close on the dates.

If the TS updates come as described, but in mid-May - is that a hit or a miss? I'd call it a "hit"....

Well put it this way TS said it would be in the next two weeks.. so if its not here by end of April then I do think this hits their credibility..

As has been mentioned on these forums this could all be a ploy to expose the moles...

Other than that.. its delayed my order for a new PowerMac.. so it shows you that romours like this (right or wrong) do have some power of persuation.. or at least have made me try and be a little bit more patient just in case a new spec is around the corner.
 
pgre said:
Well put it this way TS said it would be in the next two weeks.. so if its not here by end of April then I do think this hits their credibility..

As has been mentioned on these forums this could all be a ploy to expose the moles...

Other than that.. its delayed my order for a new PowerMac.. so it shows you that romours like this (right or wrong) do have some power of persuation.. or at least have made me try and be a little bit more patient just in case a new spec is around the corner.

Patience is very important when your a Mac fan. Think has to be very careful now because of the lawsuit. Being 100% correct is what got them into trouble.
 
wdlove said:
Patience is very important when your a Mac fan.

I'm not particularly a Mac fan - It's either Mac or Windows, and in video production, Mac is the lesser of two evils.

Patience shouldn't be a virtue of ANY customer - I can't teach my clients patience! I guess it would be a lot easier to NOT anticipate the update if I weren't on macrumors.com 2-3 hours a day.
 
wdlove said:
Patience is very important when your a Mac fan. Think has to be very careful now because of the lawsuit. Being 100% correct is what got them into trouble.

I see what you mean.. and I guess thats why these rumor sites thrive.. because many people want to believe...

But if they do have sources close/in Apple (which I am sure they do) then you would sort of expect these things to be True. Otherwise if they are artificially reducing the acuracy of their reports.. well it doesn't seem to make much sense.

Since otherwise I'm sure many people could come up with various speculation... which may be true at somepoint, rather than a rumor. (If you see what I mean in terms of differentiation)

I had sort of assumed that TS's reputation had been built on the accuracy of its reports.. but I am still farily new to the Mac world.. so maybe I should just read all this as speculation rather than a more "hopeful" (and potentially heart breaking - if you took it to seriously) rumor.
 
it sort of is

I think patience on the part of the customer/client should be a virtue, however, no more or less than speed, quality, and honesty should be on the part of the company. If a company is just not talented at what it does then you shouldn't go with them, if they are and slow and bad with their work flow..its your call.. if they're talented and hard working then...a customer should just be realistic. (a dishonest company though..thats another issue)

I think people are mostly pissed at apple becuase of its 'secrecy'. If apple said they were going with dual core/cel/PCIe 1gbramstandard x800s across the board but wouldn't ship til september people would be whining im sure but wouldn't mind too much becuase the KNOW whats coming is good.

I, however, am not sure how i feel about apples privacy practices. I respect their decision but i sort of hate that they are like that at the same time. I feel, doing high end media, that the mac experience is a better one than on the wintel side. Its not perfect but its the best option so i take the good with the bad. They'll never make a perfect computer.
 
Object-X said:
Microsoft's days are numbered

Amen brother...the end is nigh...at least the beginning of it. The Empire is beginning to crumble.

dosers said:
.Listen, I love Apple like the next guy, but Microsoft ain't dead! Apart from them being able to buy Apple tomorrow before Steve has breakfast if they REALLY wanted to, Microsoft is IBM now - they are big, they are everywhere and they are here to stay. Let's face it, Apple has less than 4% marketshare. We NEED Microsoft.

Zigster said:
Mister Softie knows that they can't rely completely on MS word for revenue and they are PREPARED to BUY their way into any business or model that appears.

~loserman~ said:
Another point for those that think Microsoft is dying and Apple is going to beat them.
Microsoft's Earnings are 10.6 Billion
Apple's Earnings are 730 Million

Quite a difference

duffman9000 said:
That's why people wear tin-foiled hats when reading anything Apple. Gotta deflect that RDF.

We like our foil hats...they're stylish and go well with the brushed metal look in our super cool OS. They're better than the mind control fish buckets the servants of the Empire wear with the constant mantra of "no one can defeat Microsoft...ohmmmmm...no one can defeat Microsoft...ohmmm..." droning over the included earphones.

What a bunch of "We can'ts" you guys are...

Good thing other folks in history didn't think the way you do...

"Ohhhh...we can't make a fire! What do you think we are? Gods or something?

Oh...we'll never defeat those tyrannical British. After all look at those spiffy bright red coats!!

Fly? FLYYY??? Are you doing the opium again freak?

Who the hell will ever be able to sell a car against Henry Ford?"


daveL said:
Don't know what you're smoking, but MS ANNUAL revenue for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2004 was US$ 36.8B. Furthermore, while still very high, MS profit has declined for the last 3 years.

Hey you!! Put that helmet back on and shush it! Don't you have your earphones on??

dicklacara said:
What object-x, Neo or whatever is saying...It doesn't matter what 98% of the installed base is using (will buy next). There is a new market coming... one that will create new users/buyers...

MS has the monopoly on the railoads...fine!... but the railroads won't get you or me where we want to go!

Someone(s) gonna' be left behind!

Ditto for you smart guy!! :D

~loserman~ said:
Maybe in the "Bizzaro Word". It is very very hard to take a monopoly down. Especially when the government has decided to leave them alone.

It's called the free market system. The monopoly will take itself down. What is it with you freaks that expect the government to do everything for you? Oh wait...you're the same helmet wearing crowd I just mentioned. Only the mantra is different..."big brother will serve all of our needs...ohmmmmm...big brother will serve all of our needs...ohmmm..."
 
AidenShaw said:
I think that "a little off" is a pretty good record.

TS has come pretty close on specs most of the time, and close on the dates.

If the TS updates come as described, but in mid-May - is that a hit or a miss? I'd call it a "hit"....


Postulation: Apple cancel the mid-term upgrade before 970MP just to give the finger to TS and all the disappointed Forum dwellers? :eek:


hmmmmmmmmmm..........
 
If Major upgrades are coming by WWDC, nothing will come between now and then. 10-11 month product cycle down to a 45 day product cycle....i don't see that happening.

Hah, and apple adjusting their product distribution just to spite TS..hahahahhaha...oh..thatts cute. :p
 
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